Deanoo78

6 hours ago, Benny79 said:

Day 1 finish in Eugenix good and bad news.

Good news- they told me that my donor area is good & hope to take 4500 graphs. I was absolutely delighted this cost a bit extra but I felt like I won the lotto. As they taught donor area was poor from pictures so was originally placed for 3200 graphs. But 4500 would be full coverage. 

Bad news- when Dr Das started making the slits my head oozed a lot so she had to stop. Back tomorrow & Thurs. But my flight home is thurs at 9pm local.. so they don't know if they get it all done in time depends on ooze. The hav given me tablets to help for tonight and tomorrow so please god they work 🙏 

Picture below is of 2700 incisions she done today.

Anybody any similar problems with oozing?

So have any grafts been extracted or inserted as yet benny ?

4 minutes ago, Benny79 said:

I actually think there was a difference but not a big one! Also I think I have lost hair since my HT but I think its stopped now. 

No doubt you prob would have lost more i also think beacause the grafts was used all over the head rather than concentrating on one are ie just the front. I recently seen a surgery which did just that 3000 grafts on a norwood 6 so front looks fine then middle and crown not a hair there which did look very strange. Jurys out which approach is better i guess. 

On 9/28/2022 at 4:19 PM, LookMaxx said:

I hear the name of this doctor a lot and he seems really bad. You got ripped off is alright, 2k grafts should’ve made a big difference somewhere but I can’t tell any difference 🤷‍♀️
 

How is your beard? Body hair is going to be crucial. The good news is your donor and hairloss isn’t that bad considering no finasteride use, you’re like a soft norwood 7. 
 

Throw the laser cap away 😂, it does nothing and just a waste of time and money. 

With the loss he had originally 2000 grafts wouldnt make much difference 

On 9/28/2022 at 11:14 AM, Benny79 said:

Below is a more aerial shot bear in mind I am right under the light.

 

 

Sometimes pics can look so different especially under light 

5 minutes ago, Benny79 said:

Hi @Deanoo78

No mate. I haven't. He did say after my HT that I would need a second (I always knew this) but he was saying probably about 800 grafts on crown but obviously I need way more.  To be honest it was a great experience and was I was put at total ease. Just disappointed with result and only getting 2000 Graphs (probably not his fault) but in hindsight the shampoos and laser comb are a bit of a joke and is deciding factor plus fact that he'll only do 2000 graphs is why I wouldn't return. Although I'd much prefer to travel to Poland than Turkey. But I get a zero blade at sides and back & you wouldn't notice I had a HT.

I find Dr Bicer & Dr Turan work much better and are recommended on this site dont think Dr Saifi is least he wasn't a few years ago. Dr Turan clinic has made contact and they want me to let my hair grow a bit (just recently got it cut) and to send them a video running a comb through my hair. Dr Bisanga wants an in person consultation if interested and haven't heard back from Dr Bicer yet. 

Looking at my 2000 graphs I reckon I would be happy if I could get another 4000 good ones Like I dont expect to have hair like in my twenties but if I could get it a bit thicker looking and some crown coverage Id be happy. The pictures look way worse as in direct light.

Hi 

Yeah i hear you i did ask him about grafts and he did say he can do 3000 + if need be in any one procedure that said 4000 grafts in one sitting i think is a long ass day and recovery be probaly longer as well but who knows i agree you most likely need 4000 anyway choose wisely i guess 

On 9/27/2022 at 11:34 PM, Benny79 said:

My Story I have being researching HT's since I start going bald at 30 (43 now) After years of research and many quotes I finely took the plunge and went to Dr Saifi in Poland 3 years ago. To be honest I wasn't mad on going to Turkey (based in Ireland). The whole procedure was great totally painless which I was shocked at and wished I had done it years ago! All my fears were quashed. He said my doner area wasn't great and could only get 2000 grafts FUE. It wasn't cheap compared to a lot of other places (Turkey). I paid about €6000 then he sold me a course of CR shampoos that he sells there was no hard sale he just recommended them which cost €350 and recommended that I get the hair max laser Comb which I did and was an extra €500 so All in I spent €7000. He also said I will probably need a second HT about 800 grafts for crown depending on my results. I have since learned although I cant fault Dr Salfi  he only ever does 2000 grafts max plus I dont feel the shampoos really did anything. I still use the laser comb but honestly I dont think this does anything either. But he said I  need to use it everyday for the rest of my life and it only takes 2 mins. All in all, 3 years on I feel a little disappointed as I know lads who have gone to Turkey got way more grafts and way better results for half the price with no research and going to hair mills in most cases. below is some of my pictures. People that dont know cant tell I have got a HT done, even my barber didn't notice thats the plus side! The down side is my mates that know think I was ripped off and now my hair is starting to get me down again.

So I decided to go get a second HT done and this time somewhere cheaper but has been recommended here as this site is amazing, full with knowledge and experiences probably to much information at times. But I have narrowed my search to DR Bicer (although I recently heard she has put her prices way up) Dr Turan I am going to contact these and ask for quotes. Also Dr Bianga as I know hes the best in the business but probably way out of my price range which is €4000 max. Also a few people I know have gone to a place called Anotomica Clinic in Turkey and have got great results! but I have heard nothing about them and have a feeling they are a hair mill but was taking to the chap that went there and have to say I was really impressed with his results. Asked him why he choose there and he said he actually seen peoples results from there and was impressed so thats how he decided. I just want density on top and crown as I am happy with hair line.

So I am just starting this thread to ask peoples opinions and advise? As I really want to make this my last trip for a HT and hopefully a good one. I kinda had my mind made up on Dr Bicer as I heard shes good when it comes to density but might be out of my price range now. Tempted to go to Anotomica clinc on seen results in person and I suppose Dr Turan is the safe bet.

From been a very long time lurker on this forum! To actually posting, all help is very much appreciated..  

 

Hi Benny 

With the loss you originally had 2000 grafts would be nowhere near enough you was always going to require another HT even if you never lossed any native hair. Just wondering as im sure saifi advised you why you didnt go for strip as it would have yielded lot more grafts and be cheaper its also a good starting off point as in you know you will need 2nd or 3rd HT. I started with similar loss to yours (prob worse) i had strip 2800 grafts 5 years ago, 14 months after 1100 FUE, and a month ago 1400 grafts FUE im also from ireland,  Have you spoken with Saifi what does he reccomend doing next ? He does discounts on returning patients as well dont forget. He is good surgeon and you can be guranteed your in safe hands the jury is out on is he too conservative i mean is it a bad thing ? Frustrating i know but that said donor is limited supply and hair loss is progressive.

2 minutes ago, SoSoz said:

How are your results looking? Did the Dr say you have any more grafts left?

2 minutes ago, SoSoz said:

How are your results looking? Did the Dr say you have any more grafts left?

Compared to where i started 5 years ago the results are great will need to wait a few month to see results of my latest procedure but im sure it will be good dr rekons i have enough grafts for another round but rekons i shouldnt need it.

18 hours ago, SoSoz said:

I am wondering how many grafts can FUT + FUE let us harvest if we start with one or two FUT procedures first? Would it be something in range 2000-3000, less or more? I am really considering FUT since I don't live far from surgeon that specializes in FUT (Dr Saifi). Scar doesn't really matter to me since I always have my back and sides on number two or more. I am 24 and destined to be nw6/7 in the future. 

Im only back from having 3rd procedure with dr saifi 1st one FUT 2800 grafts 2nd procedure 1000 grafts FUE 3rd procedure 1400 grafts FUE. 

19 hours ago, Falconary said:

Well, I've been quoted Up to 5000 grafts by other clinics (which I think is way too much). The lowest I've got is about 3500 grafts (except Dr. Saifi). I'm in contact with Dr. Saifi and he has previously quoted me 2000 grafts. I asked him if he can increase it to 2500-3000 grafts but he doesnt want my to focus on the technical details, wait for the real life consultation and thereafter focus on how to take care of my hair after the HT. He believes that much of my hair (crown) can be saved by treatment, probably exosomes. I will probably talk with him by phone the coming days. Have you had the exosomes injections and if so, did they help and how much do they cost?

Yeah he dosent like to do too many graphs in one sitting i had 2 procedures 1st one was frontal zone 2800 graphs FUT then went back year later and had crown done 1100 graphs FUE. I never heard of exosomes injections it wouldnt be for me anyway. I did in the begining use the cr lab shampoos he reccomends and laser comb although havent used both for past year.

5 hours ago, Falconary said:

Hello man,

Would love to see how the scar has healed in the donor region if you have pic to share? Im also considering Saifi and would probably go for FUT

Hi 

Yeah no problem ive been getting a 2 on back & sides lately and its really hard to see tbh how many graphs you looking to get have you been in contact with him yet ? 

Great right up. Its a frustrating waiting game now :), Im from ireland had 2 procedures done with Saifi I'm coming up to my, 8 month since my 2nd procedue would highly recommend him. 

Im back at 2.5 months. Cant speak about results yet as too early but all seems to be going as planned im on the laser an CR products he reccomends i found him to be very profesional throughout and always answered my questions and concerns. I had 2700 FUT and ive had my hair cut as ive always done # 3 at back blended in by barber. No visible signs of scar. Overhaul im happy and will keep the forum posted on my progress

Im having 2500 grafts by fut in 2 weeks with dr saifi

Hi eirealainn12, i had issues contacting him via email through his website so i emailed him direct and he replied straight away no issues since.

Hey mickhah im from ireland and i am booked in for surgery with Dr saifi in poland in 3 weeks do your reaearch on him .

Hi yeah i had that concern loads of times but having done it for years through loads of airports not a problem at all does not get checked thank god lol