Where'd It Go

Originally posted by hairthere:

WIG and Wind,

You are both acknowledging that to really judge a HT you must give it at least 12 months, yet at the same time question what will change in the next 4.5 months. The answer is, lots can change. Five months is a long time in terms of HT growth. As Spex has pointed out, there are no definitive result timelines: everyone is different. You both seem to accept this fact, yet think it shouldn't apply to this patient for some reason.

 

Could it be a failure? Of course. We all know there are no guarantees with HTs.

Thats a fair question. however you have to wonder why then post a thread at 7 months at all ? Since at 7 months NO ONE knows what the out come will be. its ALL opinion anyway isn't it ?

should no one reply to this thread then, since we do not know the out come ?

I would think if someone posts a thread they are looking for opinions. and of course you will get all different opinions based on different experiences.

I felt at this point he should be seeing +/- 70% of his results, I doubt that he, as someone else here said will see a sudden surge of hairs popping. at this point I believe it is all thickening and lengthening. This was just my opinion based on the before and after pics. Though I do hope I am wrong. We'll see.

But this patient went to a doctor who performs this surgery every day of the week, and who is meticulous with his work and trains his staff in the same manner. If you want to rip this case simply because Dr. Feller is an outspoken member, then I think you are doing a disservice to this poster.

 

Frankly this makes you sound like an apologist. no one ripped anyone, the op asked for opinions.

"Please let me know what you think. Both photos taken with flash."

And that is what he got. If he was just looking for 'certain' opinions then perhaps he should have made that clear. I believe though he was looking for honest opinions and that is exactly what he got, at least from me. I'm sorry if it was not what he was looking for. I wish him all the best !

As someone had said, if this were Armani there would be 100 pages of negative remarks and not a word would be said. it seems you have to look at the clinic first so you know what your opinion should be before you bother to write

Originally posted by windjc:

 

Ok. I agree with 85% of your entire post. But lets be fair here. I have to agree with "Where'd It Go" when he says that this could be a poor job by the doctor/staff.

 

To say that "there might be areas on your scalp that do not allow for good growth" and not say "we might have done a poor job on you" is disingenuous, imo.

 

When I see apologists for certain doctors who are more than willing to jump to conclusions and rip other doctors, its not cool.

 

We should treat all alike on this board. At 7 1/2 months, this is not a desirous result. It might improve. Hopefully it does. But if it doesn't, Feller/staff should be held to the same standard as other, less popular doctors on this forum.

It's a big money busine$$ so it's not surprising when the apologists come running out of the woodwork. I see it on these boards all the time. It's also not surprising that results like these don't make it to the posted by clinic side, those are obviously cherry picked. this clinic would never have posted these pics, we all know that.

as far as these results I see no difference at all between the before and after pics. reminds me of those PRP pics they were putting up, where some were claiming they saw an improvement. at eight months what is going to happen to haircare's ht that hasn't happened yet ?

I will be very interested to see haircare's 12 month pics, but like others here with poor or no results they will be excused away and nothing will be done or said.

I would like to see more pics put up of haircares hair now, combed exactly the same as it was in his before pic.

that is the only honest way to tell if there is any difference. too often the before pics are with the patients hair combed its absolute worst, and the after pics have the hair combed its best to conceal any problems.

ive read dutasteride can actually cause hair loss. is this true ? has anyone here experienced this ?

2nd HT-Dr Rogers-nov06-1500g

3rd HT-Dr Feller-oct07-2000g

looks much better, great improvement. you must be very happy.

why were you not satisfied with the results from dr feller and dr rodgers ? and what did dr shapiro offer/do that made the difference ? do you feel dr shapiro is the better repair doc ?

Originally posted by hair_care:

I still have at least 5 months to go before getting a final outcome.

i hope so for your sake. i think at 7 months you should be seeing 70% growth.

could you put up an after pic with your hair combed exactly the same as your before pic to give a better comparison ?

it looks like if you combed your hair back in the before like you did in the after pic it would look the same ?

again good luck and growth to you

I'm sorry to say but these results are VERY unimpressive. I would go back to the dr and ask why there is very little difference in the before and after. especially for a session of 2700+ at least judging by these photos. I would like to see more pics. Haircare could you post more before and after pics ?

I don't know why, and I haven't seen all his work to make a fair assessment but Dr Feller's work has NOT been very impressive lately. Maybe the dr should reevaluate his staff/techs ?

Considering the THOUSANDS of dollars this must have cost, I would not be happy. I do hope you grow more, but at 7.5 mnths I doubt that will happen. Sorry haircare, all the best to you. Good luck.

Thank you for your excellent reply.

Please clarify one thing...

You said "because of your more "advanced" age, your hair may re-grow slower"

Though you also said "No. Once your hair follicles have minituarized to a certain point, no hair can re-grow from that follicle."

If at my age the hairs that are 'gone' have miniaturized then what exactly will regrow ?

Thanks again....

I'm over 50 and so far have stayed away from meds, but would like to look into Dut/Avodart at this time.

Is it too late for someone over 50 to see any positive results ?

What would be the reality and benefits to an nw5 over fifty ?

Is it true it may regrow hair that was lost many years ago ?

What other considerations are there ?

Any seious negatives ?

The doctors continually only post their best results on the forums, giving the impression that these are their average results and what YOU should expect. When you go in for your consult its more of the same, they show you only their best photos. Again confirming in your mind these are average and this is what you should expect. Since these are the only photos you've seen, what else should you think ? You'll never see their less than average results. Then when reality sets in and your results are not what you expected or hoped for, you are then handed the standard lines of everyone is different or not everyone has great results. Ask to see their below average results !

The hair is combed diferently in the before and after pics. Im tired of them using this to demo their 'results'.

Great results. Was this done with out shaving the recipient area ?

Originally posted by John Malloy:

Jotronic,

Wow, I hate that guy, I wish I had half the growth he had at 7 months. That is what I thought I would look like at this point. I have a similiar balding pattern. Believe it or not this guy may have been a little worse than I, but he blows me out of the water now.

Good question John, I was wondering that myself.

John, who was your doctor ?

ive read of a few cases were 55 or higher were achieved. whos your doc ?

nice results, good luck.

good luck. let us know how it turns out.

Nice, how many did you get?

Nice transformation. love the hairline

Originally posted by Julius:

Hi there

I was wondering if anybody is on minoxidil tablets, I am sick of applying it twice a day! I read that a clinic in Australia was using them with some impressive results on Dr Rassmans blog, though he warned that there is the possibility of serious complications, and it seems as if spex is using them.

Why was it then made into a topical ?

Great look, great hair. im jealous

have you been examined by a doctor? what was his opinion ?

If youre having doubts, why not wait till they are resolved

Good to hear a successful story. it gives others hope, best of luck.

Dont limit yourself to just the UK

Agree

Have you had any consults yet ?