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Any pre-op photos to share, Baldguy? Best wishes on your recovery

N00b, I wanted to express sorrow to you like all the other members here. This is a very disappointing result, and I can empathize with how you must feel two years later. I'm guessing your yield, for whatever reasons, was extremely low and the procedure likely permanently shocked out most all of your native hair. I hope you stay in contact with the clinic and they do right by you. Please keep us in the loop.

Wow Matt, just saw your thread. Did you talk to the doctor about this? I think you're still a little early in being concerned even if you're thinking the top is looking a little thin. Can anyone else chime in on this about shock loss happening in an area where he didn't have the HT done? I'm very surprised in seeing this; I'm no expert but I've seen plenty of results on this forum and have never seen shock loss happening in area where the person didn't even have the HT. I'll agree with you when you're saying there's some thinning; do you have any pictures to compare it to? Maybe consider taking supplements such as Biotin and possibly consider Propecia. Hopefully this is just a phase or something and it'll start thickening up.

Unfortunately, shock loss can definitely extend beyond the recipient zone and there has been cases on here detailing that very issue. It tends to affect those that have minor or diffuse loss in the adjacent areas to the surgery; these are weaker hairs, which makes them more susceptible to shock out. The injections and overall trauma to the scalp for these surgeries is considerable, and how each of us reacts to it is hard to predict. It's something anyone considering a transplant needs to always take into consideration in terms of possible risks.

Having said the above, Matt, I feel for you and truly hope your situation improves with time. Hoping to see when you're at six months things take a turn for the better. Keep us posted.

Here is a related thread that was also recently posted, but in regards to alopecia areata developing post-op.

In my experience, any time you cause trauma to a certain part of your body, each of our body's can choose to react differently. Obviously, you claim your scalp was fine and of normal hue prior to surgery. So, something clearly did change post-op, otherwise it's quite a coincidence. Most people simply deal with shockloss as a result to the induced trauma, but that doesn't mean it could be the only side effect on your scalp. In the end, hopefully it's simply related to stress from the recent surgery. Work on calming your nerves, eating well, and focusing on a positive outcome from this procedure. Keep us posted on your progress.

You are an interesting and fairly difficult case, Goldenboy. You transplanted in and around a lot of native and, presumably, previously transplanted hair. I do hope Rahal's team did well by you and that any potential shockloss will be kept at bay. Also, how big was your previous surgery and was it FUT or FUE? Best of luck to you and looking forward to seeing your progress

This is a disappointing overall yield for sure. However, I am glad to see Dr. Harris is standing by his work, and that you do have options going forward. I commend you for sticking around and keeping everyone on this forum updated; many would simply vanish and never post again in situations like this. Please do let us know how you decide to approach this going forward.

Curious, what made you elect to have a no-shave in the recipient zone? I imagine that was something you and Cooley discussed and chose to do. Work looks clean and I wish you the very best moving forward! Looking forward to future updates and photos.

Good stuff, meremortals. Glad you to hear you are contented with your results and enjoying life! Looking forward to more detailed, up close pics of the result

I'm glad you came back and updated the thread. Many people disappear and never come back in similar situations. I'm sorry you did not get the help you had hoped for and that you'll continue to have to deal with this very unfortunate situation.

Do you think you'll possibly consider donor repair with beard/body hair from another respected surgeon?

ZeroMoustafa, how did your appointment with Dr. Lindsey go? I hope you update the thread with your findings and how you decide to proceed forward.

For those that aren't familiar, cherry angiomas are generally benign growths of blood vessels that can be found anywhere on your body and are extremely common. They can be flat or raised pimple-like postules. For this discussion, I'm only concentrating on those found on the scalp. I attached a photo as an example.

For all intents and purposes, these are said to be "age related growths" and genetic, but it's not really understood why they develop in the first place...Some studies do indicate a possibility of low iodine intake.

In my situation, I have at least a half dozen of these on my scalp. Some are flat/flush, others are more raised and protruding. However, one thing I do notice from them is, none seem to generally have any hair growing through them. Much like the photo I attached, hair seems to surround them instead of growing through them. My concern is that these growths may be pushing out, or in some way eating the follicles, of nearby hairs. I already have a number of these by age 30, so I imagine I will get more as time goes on.

Since these are very common in people, especially as we age, I wanted to know how some you have treated these or what you have noticed over time with them? Anyone had any luck getting rid of them naturally? Having them surgically removed isn't a big deal when they are on your back/shoulders, but on the scalp is another story; I don't exactly want to use electrosurgery/cryotherapy/laser and risk damaging healthy hair follicles nearby. Also, those of you who have had hair restoration surgery and had these in your recipient zone, did your surgeon ever mention these or bring them up as a concern?

Sorry to see you've been dealing with this. Shockloss is a very real problem, but usually it's more problematic in the recipient sites compared to the donor--but it most certainly does happen and many people have threads on it here. Spex had gone through a bad bout with this and he, thankfully, recovered fully. Check out his post here. People will always react very differently to this. Typically, shockloss is brought on by the trauma induced to the scalp from surgery, and people generally report improvement after ~3 - 6 months of first noticing the issue. But in your case, you are far and removed from your surgery now being 3 years post-op.

How does your donor area feel? Does it feel tight or in any way different from pre-op? Is the left side just as bad as the right? Do you have any pre-op photos of your donor to share? I would definitely reach out to Dr. Lindsay and get his take on this. Please keep us updated.

Would you mind also posting some pre-op photos before surgery so we can get an idea of where you came from and how your initial procedure turned out? Good luck and looking forward to the 6 month photos in October.

Nadal just lost an epic 5-setter at Wimbledon against Gilles Muller. I haven't really had much chance to see him up close since the supposed surgery. Caught a quick highlight of the aforementioned match just now and though his hair was quite short (more so than normal), it was looking noticeably fuller than I'd last seen him. Anyone else have any further thoughts?

In this case described above, how many chest hair grafts were intermixed with the scalp hair grafts?

Truly stunning! Nothing can solidify a superb result more than the opposite sex giving you compliments on your hair quality . Very happy for you.

What method was used (FUE or strip) and how many grafts? I don't see either mentioned above. Also, are there any immediate post-op photos showing actual graft placement? Lastly, it would be nice to have seen the patient's hair lay normally, without the hair band, pre-op for a better comparison of the before/after result. Glad to hear this man is happy. He has terrific hair.

Post match interview with Nadal after his second round win in the Aussie Open. You get a good glimpse of what he's currently looking like.

Jim Courier, still with the perfect red hair!

How are you typically handling the pimples? Do you treat them at all or just leave them be?

Looking great I'd say. Things are filling in nice and even. Redness has mostly all but subsided, too. Keep doing what you're doing! 6 month photos should be very telling.

Looks more sparse then I would hope for from 3200 grafts in the frontal third and tapering into the two thirds. However, looking at the post-op photos, the graft spacing seems to be aimed towards a less dense approach (see pic #1 in your album). Also, do you have any more top-down photos, like you have in photo #11? It would also be nice to see your hairline pulled back some and at angles, as it does seem like you've at least benefited from additional hairline framing.

What a fantastic hairline outcome and at only 5 months to boot! You must be over the moon. No wonder you have more confidence going out . Would like to see a pic of how you normally style your hair nowadays before going out, too.

Was the first go around FUT or FUE? How old are you? Are you on any preventative medications? Do you have any immediate post operative pictures that show exact graft placement? Any idea how many reserve grafts total you have left?

Your after pictures are pretty bad, so it's tough to to get a true idea of your result. But, looking at what you have, the result looks very sparse for over 3000 grafts in your frontal third and mid-scalp.

Do yourself a favor and get a consultation with Farjo, as well as several other recommended surgeons--do not limit yourself to one. You've already used a good chunk of grafts and need to be extremely careful on how/if you move forward, i.e. don't jump into something like this again.

What a life changing result, Ernie! Congratulations. Like Kpat131 said, you must feel unstoppable.

A picture is worth a thousand words

All kidding aside, posting pictures is up to you, but as already mentioned, it's not very difficult to conceal your identity; just take photos from your eyebrows up--problem solved. No one will be the wiser. Good quality photos showing others where you started, intra and post-op, and where you end up months later is really what helps other users on this forum when it comes to reviewing cases such as yours.

Best wishes to you on your journey.