Senior Member Rugger Posted March 3, 2004 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2004 Gentlemen... try taking some Yohimbe bark...and some L-Arginine...check them out..they are the key ingredients in many of these so-called "natural" alternatives to Viagra...they're also great if you work out a lot...both of these can be found at any GNC store or drugstore.com..pretty reasonable price..the L-Arginine is found in a GNC product called Arginmax.. ------------------------------ 4600 grafts/ 12/10/2003/ Dr. Jerry Wong Aren't you glad you know me, and have such easy access to my dementia??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rugger Posted March 3, 2004 Author Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2004 Gentlemen... try taking some Yohimbe bark...and some L-Arginine...check them out..they are the key ingredients in many of these so-called "natural" alternatives to Viagra...they're also great if you work out a lot...both of these can be found at any GNC store or drugstore.com..pretty reasonable price..the L-Arginine is found in a GNC product called Arginmax.. ------------------------------ 4600 grafts/ 12/10/2003/ Dr. Jerry Wong Aren't you glad you know me, and have such easy access to my dementia??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member andy79 Posted March 3, 2004 Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2004 You gotta be careful with that stuff! Like anything else there are grades of quality. I've taken really good yohimbe, but it made me sweat perfusely and sped my heart rate to a frightening pace...and it didn't help that much with my "side effect" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rugger Posted March 3, 2004 Author Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2004 havent experienced that at all with yohimbe...i get mine from drugstore.com..natrol is the brand i think...maybe its the quantity as well..not sure...i've heard Viagra has some similar side effects, depending on the amount you take..supposedly its the big trend in hollywood now..taking viagra whether you need it or not.. ------------------------------ 4600 grafts/ 12/10/2003/ Dr. Jerry Wong Aren't you glad you know me, and have such easy access to my dementia??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member arfy Posted March 3, 2004 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2004 2 other products to consider... Tribulis Terrestis is an herb that supposedly stimulates your body to increase testosterone production. It's not powerful like an anabolic steroid (not that I would know, I've never tried steroids) but anyway it is more subtle. Just realize that additional testosterone in your system can be counter-productive for your hair. The idea is that hopefully any additional DHT that is produced (or converted... can't say I understand the process all that well), is getting addressed by the Finasteride. Again, it is not a giant leap in testosterone, it is subtle. I've used it and it does make me more alert, more energetic, and higher libido (it's not Viagra or anything like that). Brands I hear good things about are "Sophia of Bulgaria" (the original resource for this herb) and Tribex made by Biotest (the kind I've tried). You have to take time off, to let your body return to normal, either skipping 2 days a week, or 2 weeks on 2 weeks off (?... I forget, so read the label instructions for better info) Biotest also has a new product called Red Kat that is herbal and supposedly helps with libido and erections, without changing testosterone levels. I've never tried it and just heard of it recently myself. Realize that there are a lot of bogus supplements, exaggerated claims, and stuff that works on paper but not in real life... just like hair loss treatments. So I'm not actually recommending anything to anyone. For all I know it only works on mice. If you do consider trying any of this stuff, you can get the best deals by shopping online, rather than the local GNC. I like a place called Netrition.com, but there are dozens or hundreds of places doing mail order. Hope that helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member arfy Posted March 3, 2004 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2004 Arginine raises Nitrous Oxide in the bloodstream, and NO is a factor in forming an erection. So Arginine is good for firmer erections. However, if your issue is a lack of desire, then in theory Arginine may not be helpful (I don't know... it may be a chicken/egg situation for some guys... what comes first?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mr T Posted March 3, 2004 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2004 arfy said <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> it may be a chicken/egg situation for some guys... what comes first? Shouldn't that be who? Sorry. Couldn't resist. Mr. T Mr. T's web page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rugger Posted March 3, 2004 Author Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2004 I was going to respond the same way..but thought better of it...lol Hey, i understand from Mr. Ferko that you might be headin out this way in March..and that you might be bringing your clubs along... ------------------------------ 4600 grafts/ 12/10/2003/ Dr. Jerry Wong Aren't you glad you know me, and have such easy access to my dementia??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mr T Posted March 4, 2004 Senior Member Share Posted March 4, 2004 Yes sir. I arrive late on the 20th and depart on the 26th. Hopefully, we'll hit the links on Sunday and again on Thursday... weather cooperating. Mike will be coordinating the details. Talk to him and see if you can join us. Mr. T Mr. T's web page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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