Chuckym Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Hi, I’m new to the forum and have booked Idealofmed for my procedure. I spent some time going through reviews and made a shortlist. Having contacted several of these I chose Idealofmed based on the communication with them. It was informative and not one bit pushy. Can anyone share any recent experiences on this company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted July 23 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 23 I've done a quick check online and on their YT channel etc... Which reviews of theirs are you referring to? I'm struggling to find any high quality images of their patients' final results. I note they also do teeth and other cosmetic stuff which is usually an absolute no-go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckym Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 34 minutes ago, Berba11 said: I've done a quick check online and on their YT channel etc... Which reviews of theirs are you referring to? I'm struggling to find any high quality images of their patients' final results. I note they also do teeth and other cosmetic stuff which is usually an absolute no-go. I stumbled on this website initially and used it to help form a shortlist. https://hairlinetransplantturkey.com/reviews/ i contacted about 10 of them and got mostly similar quotes. Idealofmed seemed to be the most helpful point of contact and made booking easy. Also on Reddit they don’t seem to have very few if any horror stories. They sent loads of images and video testimonials also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted July 23 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 23 8 minutes ago, Chuckym said: I stumbled on this website initially and used it to help form a shortlist. https://hairlinetransplantturkey.com/reviews/ i contacted about 10 of them and got mostly similar quotes. Idealofmed seemed to be the most helpful point of contact and made booking easy. Also on Reddit they don’t seem to have very few if any horror stories. They sent loads of images and video testimonials also. That website is useless. It doesn’t actually display results that showcase the level of refinement of the work any of the clinics it lists produce. My feeling is that you’ve not actually taken the time to develop a fundamental framework of understanding about what the best practices in hair restoration is (such as soft single grafts for hairlines, directions, angles, irregularities, temporal angles, donor management, long term planning and so on). You need that framework of understanding in order to be able to critically assess the work of surgeons that you eventually end up looking into. Personally I would not be taking a low cost risk at this clinic. I don’t think anyone who knows anything about hair transplants would choose this clinic unless cost was a primary factor, and even then you’ve got some comparably priced options in Thailand that will be far superior in terms of the work & naturalness they produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckym Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 1 minute ago, Berba11 said: That website is useless. It doesn’t actually display results that showcase the level of refinement of the work any of the clinics it lists produce. My feeling is that you’ve not actually taken the time to develop a fundamental framework of understanding about what the best practices in hair restoration is (such as soft single grafts for hairlines, directions, angles, irregularities, temporal angles, donor management, long term planning and so on). You need that framework of understanding in order to be able to critically assess the work of surgeons that you eventually end up looking into. Personally I would not be taking a low cost risk at this clinic. I don’t think anyone who knows anything about hair transplants would choose this clinic unless cost was a primary factor, and even then you’ve got some comparably priced options in Thailand that will be far superior in terms of the work & naturalness they produce. Appreciate your input. Guess I’m kinda going with my gut on this one. I wouldn’t feel comfortable travelling to Thailand (personal preference) and cost was the reason I looked at Turkey compared to the UK however I didn’t go with the cheapest option in Turkey either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted July 23 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 23 1 minute ago, Chuckym said: Appreciate your input. Guess I’m kinda going with my gut on this one. I wouldn’t feel comfortable travelling to Thailand (personal preference) and cost was the reason I looked at Turkey compared to the UK however I didn’t go with the cheapest option in Turkey either. I’ve just found some Reddit results. Multigraft hairs in the hairline… A classic error in cheap Turkish hair restoration and not a natural look at all. I would avoid. Rather than go with your gut, go with your head off the back of proper research. You’ve managed to find this forum in the nick of time… It’s never too late to change your plans until it really is too late. If cost is problem, slow down and save up some more money (or be willing to look elsewhere than Turkey) and give yourself better options. What would be the rationale for feeling comfortable travelling to Turkey but not, for instance, Thailand? I’m not saying go to Thailand (it’s not for me to tell you where to go!), I’m just curious as to the reasoning? You’d be sat on a plane for 3-4 hours longer each way and the plane ticket would be a couple of hundred quid or so more, but other than that…? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckym Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, Berba11 said: I’ve just found some Reddit results. Multigraft hairs in the hairline… A classic error in cheap Turkish hair restoration and not a natural look at all. I would avoid. Rather than go with your gut, go with your head off the back of proper research. You’ve managed to find this forum in the nick of time… It’s never too late to change your plans until it really is too late. If cost is problem, slow down and save up some more money (or be willing to look elsewhere than Turkey) and give yourself better options. What would be the rationale for feeling comfortable travelling to Turkey but not, for instance, Thailand? I’m not saying go to Thailand (it’s not for me to tell you where to go!), I’m just curious as to the reasoning? You’d be sat on a plane for 3-4 hours longer each way and the plane ticket would be a couple of hundred quid or so more, but other than that…? Is there places in Turkey that you would recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 4chanhrn Posted July 23 Regular Member Share Posted July 23 9 minutes ago, Chuckym said: Is there places in Turkey that you would recommend? Pekiner, Gur, Turan, Keser are worth looking into Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted July 23 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 23 9 minutes ago, Chuckym said: Is there places in Turkey that you would recommend? Personally speaking? No. Others will give you a different view but there's no one in Turkey that I would go to personally. The better options in Turkey are not cheap, either (and not as good as the comparable priced option we have on our doorstep in Europe and the UK). There's some decent options that are better than what you're planning to go to, and there's one or two "up and coming" options that look promising but we don't have final results to make an informed judgement on yet... But in good conscience I don't think Turkey is the place to go and I'm reluctant to start throwing names around that I wouldn't consider for myself. 99% of the clinics there are more or less a copy & paste of one another who all exhibit the same issues and lack of naturalness. Most patients don't know any better and are attracted by the price thinking that a HT is just moving hair from A to B (it's absolutely not!). I would spend serious time learning about HT's more thoroughly, use this forum as a resource to look at results - not Turkish hair mill results, but world class results by top surgeons - and then you'll really appreciate the difference in skill, artistry, planning and surgical practice compared to places like IdealOfMed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted July 23 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 23 7 minutes ago, 4chanhrn said: Pekiner, Gur, Turan, Keser are worth looking into Well, this is kind of why I'm reluctant to throw out names.... Keser has a couple of recent results on here that people seem to be raving about, except the hairlines are full of multi graft hairs and very thick and pluggy. His name is one of those that gets thrown around by people without having actually studied the results all too carefully as far as I can tell. Pekiner is notoriously difficult to even contact, is expensive and very picky about who he chooses. The bad comms are a red flag even if the work is good. Good planning in hair restoration requires good communication and Pekiner's clinic has a bad rep in that respect. Turan has recently developed a reputation for vanishing during surgeries and providing decreasing amount of oversight of the parts surgery that he is delegating. This isn't how top clinics that produce consistently excellent results operate and we've seen some examples of issues creeping into the results as a consequence (even famed clinics like H&W are not immune from this and we've seen this happening there, too!). Gur is probably worth looking into a bit more. As you can see, we have to be very careful about throwing names around, especially when these names are not the best of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 4chanhrn Posted July 23 Regular Member Share Posted July 23 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Berba11 said: Well, this is kind of why I'm reluctant to throw out names.... Keser has a couple of recent results on here that people seem to be raving about, except the hairlines are full of multi graft hairs and very thick and pluggy. His name is one of those that gets thrown around by people without having actually studied the results all too carefully as far as I can tell. Pekiner is notoriously difficult to even contact, is expensive and very picky about who he chooses. The bad comms are a red flag even if the work is good. Good planning in hair restoration requires good communication and Pekiner's clinic has a bad rep in that respect. Turan has recently developed a reputation for vanishing during surgeries and providing decreasing amount of oversight of the parts surgery that he is delegating. This isn't how top clinics that produce consistently excellent results operate and we've seen some examples of issues creeping into the results as a consequence (even famed clinics like H&W are not immune from this and we've seen this happening there, too!). Gur is probably worth looking into a bit more. As you can see, we have to be very careful about throwing names around, especially when these names are not the best of the best. I haven't done exhaustive research into the Turkish names. I just gave OP list of names that might be worth looking into since OP seems to want to stick to Turkey. Outside of these names I couldn't think of anyone else in Turkey, other than couple of other names. The only clinic I contacted on that list was Pekiner and I got a reply in less than an hour. I could be wrong or there could be bad doctors in that list. I just gave some names for OP to start his research. Edited July 23 by 4chanhrn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Paul_ Posted July 23 Regular Member Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Berba11 said: Rather than go with your gut, go with your head off the back of proper research. You’ve managed to find this forum in the nick of time… It’s never too late to change your plans until it really is too late. @Chuckym this is one of those times fortune (called Berba in this case 🙂) smiles upon you and tries to pull you back from the precipice. By all means, you can ignore it and still take the plunge, but before you do, do yourself a favor and just search "repair" on this site, to see what you are likely to face I can personally attest to having had a year of grief and expenses many times higher than my initial HT for repairs, and all this because of my hubris to think I knew and could decide better on my own Two successful repairs (pluggy hairline removal + donor restoration) with Dr Ball - The Maitland Clinic https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/72766-pluggy-hairline-removal-donor-restocking-2-repairs-with-dr-ball-maitland-clinic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted July 23 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 23 9 minutes ago, 4chanhrn said: The only clinic I contacted on that list was Pekiner and I got a reply in less than an hour Crikey! Hopefully this is a sea change in their practice. Last year there was a poster on here who was weeks away from surgery with Pekiner and he couldn’t make contact with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted July 24 Moderators Share Posted July 24 Turkey is not the best place to be going for a hair transplant. There are a ton of hair transplant clinics in Turkey and the government really pushes the medical tourism field. I would probably prefer Dr Bicer over anyone else there, but she is not cheap. If you live in that area of the world then I understand giving Turkey a serious look, but otherwise you should definitely be looking at other areas as well. 1 Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a paid forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 4chanhrn Posted July 24 Regular Member Share Posted July 24 15 hours ago, Berba11 said: Crikey! Hopefully this is a sea change in their practice. Last year there was a poster on here who was weeks away from surgery with Pekiner and he couldn’t make contact with them. That's not very good, I agree. I think it's a trend with cheap+good surgeons being notoriously hard to get hold of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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