Regular Member chiboy Posted July 17 Regular Member Share Posted July 17 Hi all - Really appreciate reading my post and helping me clear my thoughts in advance. I am considering a 2nd HT (first one was done with Dr Panine using 2300 grafts - all from my scalp - focusing on hairline and front scalp). Overall I am happy with the results. Now, I am looking to get a touch up in previous transplanted region but mainly focus in my mid scalp and crown. I live in Chicago and am originally from India. Had couple of consults over the past years with Eugenix and even met Dr Sethi in person in Chicago. They recommend doing 2700-3500 gratfs with about 2000 in crown & mid scalp and 700-1500 in hairline and temples. Heard a lot of great things about Eugenix, and am considering super premium package (~$5/graft) with either Dr Arika or Dr Sethi. They both will do complete planning and designing but Dr Sethi will do only crucial slits vs Dr Arika will do all slits. Dr Sethi charges more for doing all slits. Let's say if I don't want to pay more, which one should I pick and why? Any other doctors should I consider? I have consulted with Dr Konior but expensive for me (quoted $33k), and don't want to go back to Dr Panine. I am inclined towards Eugenix as they are able to schedule me within 2 weeks but that also raises the hair mill concerns, especially, doctors not doing implantation and extractions. Are they good with implanting between exisiting hair (native and transplanted) and with someone have diffuse hair thining? @BaldingEagle1 @Melvin- Admin @Gatsby @ZeeMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted July 17 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 17 $5 per graft opens you up to most of the top surgeons in the world. I'd be inclined to spend a little more time looking at options throughout Europe and elsewhere - particularly those that deal with only one patient per day. If you eventually settle on Dr Pradeep or Dr Arika then so be it, but you should choose your surgeon carefully after having explored your options thoroughly. I'm a former Eugenix patient. What I would say is that their business model has radically changed over the years and although the talent within Eugenix is very high, for me you want maximum doctor involvement at all stages of the process from consultation, planning, intra-op & post-op. Unfortunately you don't get the same level of doctor involvement and oversight at Eugenix as you used to, and we've seen issues crop up across all of their packages/surgeons over the years. In all probability you'd still get a great result, but you should be aware of some of the variables you'll encounter in advance. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member chiboy Posted July 17 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 17 Thanks for the suggestion, @Berba11. I see that you have had 2 HTs with Eugenix. How do you feel overall about your results? What are some of the good and bads? Also, what top surgeons would you recommend me if any to do my research on please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted July 17 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 17 5 minutes ago, chiboy said: Thanks for the suggestion, @Berba11. I see that you have had 2 HTs with Eugenix. How do you feel overall about your results? What are some of the good and bads? Also, what top surgeons would you recommend me if any to do my research on please? I had good growth and an overall positive cosmetic transformation, but due to errors in planning and minimal time prior to the first surgery, my hairline is right up against the frontalis muscle (too low), it's too broad and too linear (not enough irregularities). These issues aren't easy to convey in photos, but they're there, they've been confirmed by more than one surgeon through in-person consultation and I'm having some corrective work beginning in September to undo some of the hairline work and rebuild it more conservatively. Your best bet is to read loads and loads of reviews of both the surgeons you're interested in and also use the recommended list at the top of the forum page as a starting point for further research. I'm not keen on just throwing out names - there's loads of excellent surgeons and you've not yet provided any photos so we can see what your situation is. You sound like a case that most top doctors would easily produce a great result for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted July 18 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 18 In short, both surgeons are equally skilled and experienced. However Dr Sethi is perhaps more aggressive perhaps where as Dr Bansal is a little bit more conservative. 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor A_4_Archan Posted July 18 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 18 As @Berba11 mentioned, with a budget of around 5 euros per graft, you have access to many top-notch doctors. It would be wise to explore a few more options before making your decision. I suggest consulting with several highly regarded doctors, such as Dr. Couto, Dr. Ferreira, Dr. Pinto, Dr. Ximena, and Dr. Pittela. Although Dr. Sethi & Dr Bansal, both are excellent surgeon, it’s beneficial to have consultations with a few more top-tier professionals before finalising something. Check Out My Hair Transplant Journey --> My Thread 3611 FUE Grafts With Dr Kongkiat Laorwong | Norwood 5 | 2nd May 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rawkerboi Posted July 18 Senior Member Share Posted July 18 Completely agree with @Berba11 If you're able to afford $5 per graft, consider consulting with other top recommended doctors who are more involved in the procedure.Only essential slits will be done by Dr. Sethi, but other top doctors will likely be more involved in the procedure for $5 per graft. Your doctor should be fully involved from the designing stage up until implantation when you are paying top dollar. Don't compromise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member DeltaV Posted July 18 Senior Member Share Posted July 18 Slit making is a fast process and dr Sethi did all my 6000 odd slits in two hours. The designing and planning was thirty minutes max and that was the end of dr Sethi in my four day procedure. No check-ins and no accountability. Whilst my overall results were good but due to reasons of ethics and integrity as long as I am in this forum I would not recommend dr Sethi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Bandit90 Posted July 18 Senior Member Share Posted July 18 I went with Dr Sethi and have zero complaints. But if you want a clinic with high doctor involvement then perhaps isn't for you. That said three are a lot of wow results on this forum by Dr Sethi... but you would have to be comfortable with high tech involvement beyond him making the slits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ZeeMan Posted July 18 Senior Member Share Posted July 18 @chiboy My 2 cents...I'm super satisfied with my results, I've been twice to Eugenix, growth is great, and it's important to have realistic expectations. Agree with what everyone is saying above, especially @Gatsby, and @Bandit90 My advice, l did a lot of research on this site before choosing Eugenix, and I felt more comfortable picking them (money was not an issue for me). Dr. Bansal did my 1st HT, and Dr. Somesh did the 2nd, between them both Dr. Somesh probably spent more time planning, but this is all in your control, ask Q's, and don't agree everything they say, have a plan, and research, and research more. Though Delhi is their primary site (where I had my 1st HT), it tends to be super busy, and I felt the other sister locations (Hyderabad where I did my 2nd sitting) tends to be a bit less busy, and you probably get more time from the primary doctor. Again, this is just my experience. If you can afford it, go with Dr.P. All the best! Follow my Journey with Eugenix (Dr. Arika Bansal) - November 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member chiboy Posted July 28 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 28 On 7/17/2024 at 5:42 PM, Berba11 said: I had good growth and an overall positive cosmetic transformation, but due to errors in planning and minimal time prior to the first surgery, my hairline is right up against the frontalis muscle (too low), it's too broad and too linear (not enough irregularities). These issues aren't easy to convey in photos, but they're there, they've been confirmed by more than one surgeon through in-person consultation and I'm having some corrective work beginning in September to undo some of the hairline work and rebuild it more conservatively. Your best bet is to read loads and loads of reviews of both the surgeons you're interested in and also use the recommended list at the top of the forum page as a starting point for further research. I'm not keen on just throwing out names - there's loads of excellent surgeons and you've not yet provided any photos so we can see what your situation is. You sound like a case that most top doctors would easily produce a great result for you. Apologies for delayed response, @Berba11. I am sorry to hear about your experience, and hope you get the results you are looking for. I just posted my detailed experience here: Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted July 28 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 28 1 hour ago, chiboy said: I am sorry to hear about your experience, and hope you get the results you are looking for. I just posted my detailed experience here: No need to be sorry! My HT's with Eugenix have stood me in good stead and, overall, been a positive for me. The work isn't perfect, but I think most people would be very happy with my result and leave things as they are rather than seek to reverse some of the elements I dislike; I've wrestled internally back & forth about it for three years myself! Feedback on my results has always been overwhelmingly positive regardless of the issues (which most people don't perceive in any case). Had the hairline position been placed 1.5cm higher up and designed a bit narrower rather than a broad U-shape it would be close to spot on. It's not what it should have been if more care had been taken, but it's not the end of the world either. I'm relaxed and have a plan in place so... all good! I have to say that Eugenix's and Dr Pradeep's hospitality and kindness towards me has always been outstanding also. If you do choose either surgeon, the chances are you'll get a very good result and if you've met Dr Pradeep and have a good rapport with him you'll be very well looked after for sure. Nevertheless, it is still important to be aware of how involved your surgeon will be throughout the entire surgery so it's just something to consider in the course of your research. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member chiboy Posted August 31 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 31 On 7/18/2024 at 1:24 AM, A_4_Archan said: As @Berba11 mentioned, with a budget of around 5 euros per graft, you have access to many top-notch doctors. It would be wise to explore a few more options before making your decision. I suggest consulting with several highly regarded doctors, such as Dr. Couto, Dr. Ferreira, Dr. Pinto, Dr. Ximena, and Dr. Pittela. Although Dr. Sethi & Dr Bansal, both are excellent surgeon, it’s beneficial to have consultations with a few more top-tier professionals before finalising something. Thanks @A_4_Archan for your thoughts. And please excuse for delayed response. I am curious as to why you didn't recommend Dr Kongkiat Laorwong even though I feel your results are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor A_4_Archan Posted September 2 Valued Contributor Share Posted September 2 On 8/31/2024 at 10:48 PM, chiboy said: Thanks @A_4_Archan for your thoughts. And please excuse for delayed response. I am curious as to why you didn't recommend Dr Kongkiat Laorwong even though I feel your results are awesome. U wc brother. Dr laorwong is a very good option if your budget is around 2 euros per graft but if you hve a budget of 5 euros per grafts than the other suggested doctors are better imho 1 Check Out My Hair Transplant Journey --> My Thread 3611 FUE Grafts With Dr Kongkiat Laorwong | Norwood 5 | 2nd May 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member chiboy Posted September 8 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 8 On 9/2/2024 at 10:05 AM, A_4_Archan said: U wc brother. Dr laorwong is a very good option if your budget is around 2 euros per graft but if you hve a budget of 5 euros per grafts than the other suggested doctors are better imho Got it, thanks @A_4_Archan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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