Senior Member olmert Posted May 21 Senior Member Share Posted May 21 (edited) 1. Whose topical dutesteride will work better? 2. Whose topical dutesteride is cheaper? 3. About how much are each? Minoxidil pills are covered by my insurance. So is finasteride pills, but they end my libido. Money isn't unlimited with me, as with some of you. So which topical finasteride is cheap? I'm already planning to pay a fortune for CosmeRNA. Edited May 21 by olmert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted May 22 Senior Member Share Posted May 22 i dont think anagenica uses the same vehicle as parati. paratis uses this gel that also xylon uses (or at least its very similar) while anagenica uses a normal vehicle which has higher chances of going systematic i see little use in anagenica, could just take it orally then you will get the prices if you email parati; its dose and concentration dependend and also where you live (shipping) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 12345 Posted May 23 Regular Member Share Posted May 23 all the info is on the anagenica website in regards to pricing, but its around 80 euros for a bottle of the their topical dut. cannot say which works better at this point. i ordered from anagenica last week, and its in shipping now. will be trying for the first time when it does arrive. i thought xyon's gel formula was patented/unique only to them. maybe melvin can clarify. i ultimately ended up choosing anagenica based off other forum members reccs, but with only a 1x week application. i was considering xyon but the higher strength(2%), and price turned me off. i did not like that you had to keep paying consultation fees for each renewed subscription. i personally feel that it should only apply to your first bottle, not each time after. but this is just personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member olmert Posted May 23 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, 12345 said: i was considering xyon but the higher strength(2%), and price turned me off. i did not like that you had to keep paying consultation fees for each renewed subscription. i personally feel that it should only apply to your first bottle, not each time after. You've been duped by marketing. Xyon could, just as easily, have upped the price per bottle and totally gotten ride of all consult fees. That is actually what anagenica does. Now, there are good reasons not to get Xyon. Maybe you aren't rich, and Xyon costs the most. Also there will never be large scale studies to prove Xyon causes less systemic effects. But a very bad reason not to get Xyon is how they break up the price between bottles and consult fees. You're taking a stand on principle without realizing the only principle here is marketing. Edited May 23 by olmert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Moderator Posted May 23 Administrators Share Posted May 23 Farmacia parati is similar to Xyon, but not exactly. Xyon does have a patent. I’ve heard getting through to them is a problem, but I’ve also heard poor customer service from Angenica. I would personally choose Farmacia Parati out of the two. Check out my final hair transplant journey: My Final Hair Transplant Journey (Over 9K Total FUE Grafts) View my thread Melvin- Associate Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media Instagram @thehairtransplantnetwork Facebook, Pintrest, Linkedin and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 12345 Posted May 23 Regular Member Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, olmert said: You've been duped by marketing. Xyon could, just as easily, have upped the price per bottle and totally gotten ride of all consult fees. That is actually what anagenica does. Now, there are good reasons not to get Xyon. Maybe you aren't rich, and Xyon costs the most. Also there will never be large scale studies to prove Xyon causes less systemic effects. But a very bad reason not to get Xyon is how they break up the price between bottles and consult fees. You're taking a stand on principle without realizing the only principle here is marketing. you have totally ignored everything else I have written such as 1)anagenica being recommended by another user 2)the fact that xyon is a higher strength dut at 2% but instead chose to focus on my reason for not choosing xyon due to the price. not sure why you ask questions, but then get upset when the responses are not what u want to hear. The only thing I was duped in was wasting my time responding to this post twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member olmert Posted May 25 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 25 On 5/23/2023 at 2:01 PM, 12345 said: you have totally ignored everything else I have written such as I didn't ignore anything. You gave multiple reasons. I said one reason sucked. I didn't comment on the other reasons because I had nothing to add on them. On 5/23/2023 at 1:47 PM, Melvin- Moderator said: I would personally choose Farmacia Parati out of the two. What is their website? I could not find it on google. I am trying to assess all my options, their costs, and estimated efficacy before deciding whether to take the plunge and go with the expensive Xyon. I also got to consider whether there is room in my budget for CosmeRNA. Using CosmeRNA and Xyon is one pretty penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted May 25 Senior Member Share Posted May 25 40 minutes ago, olmert said: Qual è il loro sito web? Non sono riuscito a trovarlo su google. https://www.lafarmacia.it/trova-farmacia/parati-lentate-sul-seveso?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=gbp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Moderator Posted May 25 Administrators Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, olmert said: I didn't ignore anything. You gave multiple reasons. I said one reason sucked. I didn't comment on the other reasons because I had nothing to add on them. What is their website? I could not find it on google. I am trying to assess all my options, their costs, and estimated efficacy before deciding whether to take the plunge and go with the expensive Xyon. I also got to consider whether there is room in my budget for CosmeRNA. Using CosmeRNA and Xyon is one pretty penny. Are you in the US or Canada? I think Farmacia Parati is marginally cheaper than Xyon when you compare the actual dutasteride concentration. Check out my final hair transplant journey: My Final Hair Transplant Journey (Over 9K Total FUE Grafts) View my thread Melvin- Associate Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media Instagram @thehairtransplantnetwork Facebook, Pintrest, Linkedin and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member olmert Posted May 25 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 25 2 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said: Are you in the US or Canada? I think Farmacia Parati is marginally cheaper than Xyon when you compare the actual dutasteride concentration. I'm in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member olmert Posted May 25 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 25 3 hours ago, ITA said: https://www.lafarmacia.it/trova-farmacia/parati-lentate-sul-seveso?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=gbp But where on this website is dutesteride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted May 26 Senior Member Share Posted May 26 6 hours ago, olmert said: Ma dov'è su questo sito web la dutesteride? It's an Italian pharmacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member olmert Posted Sunday at 05:34 AM Author Senior Member Share Posted Sunday at 05:34 AM On 5/26/2023 at 1:16 AM, ITA said: It's an Italian pharmacy But I can't find topical dutesteride on the website you gave. Can you give a link to actual topical dutesteride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted Sunday at 10:18 PM Senior Member Share Posted Sunday at 10:18 PM 16 hours ago, olmert said: Ma non riesco a trovare dutesteride topico sul sito web che hai fornito. Puoi fornire un collegamento all'attuale dutesteride topico? You could send them an email, and ask if they can provide it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gatsby Posted Monday at 12:59 AM Senior Member Share Posted Monday at 12:59 AM If you email them they will take a few days to get back to you. You have to tell them what dose you want (eg 0.25ml topical finasteride, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member olmert Posted Monday at 09:57 AM Author Senior Member Share Posted Monday at 09:57 AM 9 hours ago, Gatsby said: If you email them they will take a few days to get back to you. You have to tell them what dose you want (eg 0.25ml topical finasteride, etc). 11 hours ago, ITA said: You could send them an email, and ask if they can provide it to you. They emailed back "good morning, do you have a medical prescription?" What do I do? I'm nervous that they don't think they are allowed to send me the dutesteride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Madness5823 Posted Monday at 01:26 PM Regular Member Share Posted Monday at 01:26 PM Heard Parati is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted Monday at 06:08 PM Senior Member Share Posted Monday at 06:08 PM 8 hours ago, olmert said: Hanno risposto via e-mail " buongiorno, hai una prescrizione medica?" Cosa devo fare? Sono nervoso perché non pensano di potermi mandare il dutesteride. Yes, they always require a prescription from a doctor, even for oral minox I had to send it to them via email, without that, I don't think you'll be able to get it sent to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member olmert Posted Monday at 06:15 PM Author Senior Member Share Posted Monday at 06:15 PM 12 minutes ago, ITA said: they always require a prescription from a doctor, Where do I get a script? What dosage is the script for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted Monday at 06:49 PM Senior Member Share Posted Monday at 06:49 PM 33 minutes ago, olmert said: Dove trovo una sceneggiatura? A che dosaggio serve lo script? I have no idea, it’s the doctor who has to prescribe the dosage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mustang Posted Wednesday at 10:10 AM Senior Member Share Posted Wednesday at 10:10 AM I have used 2 products out of the 3 in question h The main advantage with Anagenica is that they don't ask for a prescription so that makes it easier to get. It's pharma grade and safe dosages. Customer service not great as Melvin said, sometimes you have to wait 3-4 days to be able to pay, after that it's all good with delivery. Parati makes a great product but tricky to use with longer hair, it's like putting glue on your head and makes it messy and stick so it has to be used at night and washed in the morning, I had great results with it however but you will need a prescription. Overall it's just easier for me to get it from Anagenica (I am not using it right now) but both will get the job done Never tried Xyon but sounds like it would work great as well. In terms of strength I suggest not going higher than 0.1% and no more than twice a week but that's just my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 12345 Posted Wednesday at 02:22 PM Regular Member Share Posted Wednesday at 02:22 PM 4 hours ago, mustang said: I have used 2 products out of the 3 in question h The main advantage with Anagenica is that they don't ask for a prescription so that makes it easier to get. It's pharma grade and safe dosages. Customer service not great as Melvin said, sometimes you have to wait 3-4 days to be able to pay, after that it's all good with delivery. Parati makes a great product but tricky to use with longer hair, it's like putting glue on your head and makes it messy and stick so it has to be used at night and washed in the morning, I had great results with it however but you will need a prescription. Overall it's just easier for me to get it from Anagenica (I am not using it right now) but both will get the job done Never tried Xyon but sounds like it would work great as well. In terms of strength I suggest not going higher than 0.1% and no more than twice a week but that's just my experience. for ppl just starting to use topical dut who had sides from fin(oral n topical). do you suggest spacing it out every 7 days, or even up to 10 days before the next application? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member olmert Posted Wednesday at 07:45 PM Author Senior Member Share Posted Wednesday at 07:45 PM 5 hours ago, 12345 said: for ppl just starting to use topical dut who had sides from fin(oral n topical). do you suggest spacing it out every 7 days, or even up to 10 days before the next application? Anagenica's instructions say to start out once a week, and eventually rise to 3 times a week. I was bold and started at 3 times a week. I definitely felt sex effects. So I stopped taking it for 5 days, and the sex effects were gone, I think. I am going to compromise and try twice a week. If I were you, I would risk it and start with 3 times a week. It is true, though, that some people have gotten permanent sex effects from oral finasteride; it continued even after the pills stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mustang Posted yesterday at 10:57 AM Senior Member Share Posted yesterday at 10:57 AM I got away with once every 10 days (2ml) at 0.05% with great results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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