Eugenix (Drs. Das/Somesh/Vinita) | 11,102 grafts | NW 6/7 | 28 yrs old | 2022/2023/2024

[civic]

Looks clean!

Edited October 10, 2022 by civic

[Berba11]

6 minutes ago, Gramatik said:

He will need fiber product for the midscalp and crown but The main thing here is that his result is related on finasteride, if finasteride in the future loose its effectivenes he will become norwood 7 and he doesnt have enough donor to cover the sides. 

That's a consideration of course, which the OP has acknowledged. But it's likely he'll probably have some extra donor resources available to call upon if needed. Let's not forget that being a NW7 isn't the major obstacle it might have been in years gone by now with the ability to extract beard & chest hair + improved ability to homogenously deplete the scalp donor. The OP's donor already looks good post-op, and we have a number of NW7 cases from Eugenix that have been brilliant.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Berba11

[Gramatik]

1 minute ago, Berba11 said:

That's a consideration of course, with the OP has acknowledged. But it's like he'll probably have some extra donor resources available to call upon if needed. Let's not forget that being a NW7 isn't the major obstacle it might have been in years gone by now with the ability to extract beard & chest hair + improved ability to homogenous deplete the scalp donor. The OP's donor already looks look post OP, as we have a number of NW7 cases from Eugenix that have be brilliant results.

It depends on the remaining donor of each candidate. But as i understood from his write up his donor was not very good and Dr Das was not even sure if she can extracts 4000 grafts from its donor. If his beard can give more grafts then it will be useful.

[Gramatik]

11 minutes ago, Xanadu said:

There will be a thin rim and I guess if the scalp DHT resistant hairs are grown out they might be able to cover that (maybe with powder). I'm not sure it won't look good even if he gets off fin. 

What would you suggestion be? to 'just shave it bro'?

 

if his sides go down then he will not be able to cover them with products, as they will be bald areas beyond the transplanted area. He needs to take finasteride forever to prevent the progress to norwood 7. 

Edited October 9, 2022 by Gramatik

[Xanadu]

4 hours ago, general-etwan said:

Hello everyone,

First I want to thank everyone here who may have played a role in helping me find a clinic I was confident in and helped me achieve this. This will document the journey for me.

Pre-HT Situation
MPB runs very aggressively on my father's side of the family. My grandfather, two uncles, and father have all lost significant amounts of hair by their 20s-30s. In my early teens, I already had thin hair, but didn't recognize it at the time. The aggressive hair loss probably began around age 15. I wasn't into the science of hair loss back then and so I didn't really know what was happening/didn't think about it much. But by the time I was 18-20, I knew I had lost a significant amount, suffered from the mental and social effects of knowing I disliked the look so much, etc. Below is a progression of the situation at different ages.

I remember trying minoxidil very briefly in my early 20s, but quickly "gave up" after it (obviously) didn't regrow all of my hair. I also saw a dermatologist around age 22 who presented the option of finasteride to me, but I chose not to begin taking it at that time for a few reasons: 1) He (correctly) informed me that it would not regrow all of my hair, and 2) I was in a period of being irrationally scared of taking it based on claims I had read online. So I essentially continued to do nothing while still dreaming of the possibility of having a HT somewhere, somehow. At age 24 I had a transplant consultation at a world-renowned doctor in NYC, and was politely turned down for the possibility of a transplant. My hair loss was too aggressive, they said, and a transplant at the time would not yield satisfactory results. They also said they would require finasteride for 1 year first before even considering a procedure.

So, at that point I was discouraged and essentially gave up again, though mentally I never gave up on trying to figure out how to change the situation. When you're still very young and suffer from this amount of hair loss, it makes you feel like you don't belong in many ways. Even though I've always had a fantastic family, great friends, and good people in my life, went to a great school, played sports, attended a great university and had several great involvements, I never felt confident in the look of having such aggressive hair loss and so I wore hats everywhere. The only time I would not wear a hat was when I was alone. I would read about hair cloning all the time, knowing it will probably be available someday, but that day surely won't come for decades yet.

So in early 2021, at age 25, I tried something that I learned my father has done since his 20s: wear hair systems. I actually didn't even know that he wore them until I was in my early 20s; that is how authentic and natural they looked. One of my uncles was also starting to get into the process of wearing them, so they taught me all about them and I decided to try it out. I purchased systems online and took them to HairClub to apply and maintain. I did that for about 8 months in 2021 and sported a bit of a medium-length messy look on top. There are pros and cons to hair systems. The pros were that they looked pretty good and allowed me to go outside without hat wearing which was a whole new feeling of freedom that I appreciated. The cons are that they become very expensive recurring costs, the adhesives break down constantly and require regular maintenance (appointments, scheduling), the daily time commitment of styling and making sure the edges were not coming up, the careful washing in the shower, the occasional irritation. Ultimately, I decided that continuing to wear systems forever was simply not satisfactory enough for me. I am a very active person and while you absolutely can learn to make systems work with an active lifestyle, it certainly is not without irritation and annoyance, and it just wasn't what I wanted to do going forward.

In January 2022 at age 26, after reading a lot of the science behind it, I decided I was going to try finasteride, as I was no longer irrationally afraid of any side effect claims. I did not experience any noticeable negative side effects and within a few months already started to see some improvement around the edge of the pattern of hair loss. I also added minoxidil and microneedling to that strategy; simply a "final stand" attempt at a natural hair recovery.

By spring, I had found Eugenix and had read a lot of the cases posted here. I was highly impressed with what they've done for higher Norwoods, and finding a clinic that was also within my financial means for the number of grafts I would need also felt like a miracle. At first they quoted me for around 5,500 grafts; upon more communication I requested they plan to be as aggressive as possible because I care far less about the back and sides of my head than I do the top. They re-assessed a plan for 6,500 grafts using 4,500 scalp donor + 2,000 beard donor, but I did understand that was a high projection and it would likely end up being around the original estimation. 

First, some pre-HT pictures from the last year or so (age 24-26):

  

  

 

Eugenix Pre-HT Plans
I chose the Exclusive Package at Eugenix, which is 120 INR/graft + 18% tax (so about $1.45 USD/graft right now). The Exclusive Package has the procedure led by a senior doctor; senior doctor performs 100% of slits and then all extraction and implantation is performed by senior technicians. I was informed that Dr. Priyadarshini Das would be doing my HT, and I've seen great work from her in some other cases. I also received complimentary 4 nights in a 5-star hotel, all transportation from New Delhi airport to the hotel and to the clinic, and food included in that package. They scheduled me for September 15-16 and I began my travel planning.

I only told a few people about my plans early on because I wanted to focus on all of the travel planning required without worrying people in addition. Only a few people in my family have traveled very far; certainly never to the other side of the Earth. I was never even on an airplane myself until age 24, but I'm very independently driven and I had no concerns about my ability to travel to India to do this. It was worth it for me. I just didn't want to worry too many people too early, because not everyone understands everything involved, and attempting to explain everything to people who aren't into this topic can be very exhausting.

I am from the eastern USA so I chose a flight from JFK to DEL for around $1,000 round trip. Direct flight from JFK to DEL, but then on the way home, a stop in Doha, Qatar to save money. It would have been $600 more for a direct flight home. I had miles racked up from a credit card, so I actually ended up only paying about $200 out of pocket for my flights. My procedure was scheduled for September 15-16, Thursday and Friday, so I had to leave home on Tuesday evening to arrive in New Delhi Wednesday evening. 

I had to have blood work done a few weeks prior and forward the results to Eugenix for standard inspection: red/white blood cells, Hep, HIV, prothrombin time, etc.

The communication from Eugenix leading up to my travel was excellent. I had members of the Eugenix Concierge team reach out to me consistently every few days to ensure I was prepared, understood the way things would go, etc.

Evening Before HT
After about a 15-hour flight from NYC to DEL, which honestly wasn't too bad because I slept for most of it, I arrived at Indira Gandhi International Airport a little after 9 pm Wednesday night and proceeded through customs and immigration. As for travel documents needed for this journey: passport, India e-visa printout, negative covid test result (if not providing vaccine card), and Air Suvidha declaration form required for all international passengers arriving to India.

I was contacted by the concierge team in the airport and was informed of how to locate my driver who was waiting to take me to the DoubleTree by Hilton hotel. Upon walking outside to the taxi area, I was immediately bombarded with multiple "taxi drivers" asking me where I was going, offering rides, etc. I was prepared for these "scams" ahead of time as I had heard about them. It was a bit chaotic and I was trying to find the gate where my Hilton driver was, but it took me about 5-10 minutes and in that time I was approached by 5-10 taxi drivers offering rides and demanding info on where I was going. You have to just politely say "I already have travel arranged, thank you" and keep walking away. Eventually I found the Hilton representative and my driver, who had his car parked in the parking lot. He went and got his car, pulled up to the curb, took my bags, and we proceeded to the hotel. 

I stayed in the DoubleTree by Hilton in Gurugram (Baani Square) which is only a couple minutes down the street from the Eugenix clinic. All of the attendants at the hotel were fantastic in getting me checked in and settled in my room. By that time it was after midnight and I had been informed of my reporting time at 9 am to Eugenix the next morning.

Day 1
I woke up around 8 am and stuck to my breakfast snacks I had brought with me because I didn't have a lot of time. At 9 am Eugenix called me and said the driver was outside; he picked me up in a very nice luxury SUV and we proceeded to the clinic. I brought my backpack with me with just a few belongings needed and a buttoned shirt which you need to wear after the procedure starts so you're not messing up your head. The roads in Gurgaon/Gurugram are very chaotic. The constant honking, aggressive maneuvers of drivers, but I found it amusing.

There, I checked in with some attendants and they showed me around. Then I was met by some doctors who informed me of how things would go, gave me some medication, etc. Then Dr. Das greeted me. Then I was met by a leading technician (who would take the primary care for me for all 3 days) and he led me into the photo area to take pre-HT photos. Below are some of those.

  

 

Dr. Das was initially stressed at the examination of the situation; I could tell. Her goal was to get 4,000 grafts from scalp donor area but she told me honestly that she was not sure if she could get 4,000. I did seem to experience some thinning in the 2 months leading up to the procedure, which I'm not sure why occurred...I do not know whether finasteride's effects hit a plateau and reversed, or if it was temporary caused by stress or something, or just an illusion. Anyway, Dr. Das then consulted with me for 15-30 minutes on the design of the HT on big screens with these pictures. We agreed on no temple work because it would require too many grafts, and when I grow my hair out, my temples are still acceptable to me anyway. She suggested a pretty conservative hairline, which of course I understood because of the advanced hair loss. She also explained that the plan would be to cover to the upper part of the crown, but not all the way down to the lower donor area, for 2 reasons: 1) Not enough grafts available and 2) that lower crown region is area that can improve with finasteride + minoxidil and be addressed in other ways. So, the plan was to cover approximately the below area (though I drew the hairline inaccurately), utilizing 1,000-2,000 beard grafts as well since I have good facial hair:

Once we agreed to the plan, an assistant sat down with me and went over the pricing and payment, and we took care of that. Then the lead caregiving technician got me ready with a change of clothes and settled me into the room, made sure I was comfortable, and began the preparation.

First I was given the local anesthesia all over the top of the scalp and the donor area. Dr. Das made all of the slits across the entire scalp, which I could feel the sensation of but of course not feel the pain from. That took a while. Then the leading techs began the extractions and implantations; the first day consisted of using scalp donor hair from the sides of the head on the hairline and the middle half of the scalp. I believe 2,400 grafts were implanted the first day according to the whiteboard the next day. Lunch was around 2-3 pm and they order anything you want; I'm a big pizza and fast food guy (bad I know) so they ordered some pepperoni pizzas for me which were very good. They also ask you what kind of music you like and they'll put on a playlist on a big TV in the room. They played some rap/hip-hop, pop, and some relaxing meditation music which was all uniquely enjoyable. After all the slits were made, Dr. Das left but would check in every 30 minutes or so during the extraction and implantation. We finished up around 6-7 pm. I was given full instructions on how to care for my head overnight along with a kit of items; mainly a bottle of saline spray that I was told to spray on the recipient area every hour. Also an absorption cloth to put on the pillow at night to absorb the donor area.

  

 

 

Day 2
The second day again began at 9 am. I was able to wake up earlier and order room service breakfast at the hotel. Chocolate chip pancakes, one of my favorites.

The plan for the second day was to cover the mid-scalp all the way back to the crown. The hair in the middle of the scalp donor area was used for this. I believe around 1,600 were implanted, bringing the 2-day total to 4,000 grafts.

   

  

Note that in the donor area on the back, I have a scar where no hair grows...that is just a scar from a cut in childhood; leaving it alone was absolutely fine with me.

Day 3
The entire area had been covered in the first two days but rather than rush to extract and implant beard grafts for more density Friday night, after an already long day, Dr. Das wanted to take Saturday to finish everything up. 1,300 beard grafts were used I believe in the mid-scalp to crown region. This part of the local anesthesia was the most painful as the jaw area can be very sensitive, but I just had to push through and get it done. A lot of this work was done in a position that allowed me to sit upright leaning over the reclined chair and I was able to use my phone a bit.

  

My head was very sore after these 3 days and I also started experiencing a lot pain in the implantation phase; the anesthesia kept wearing off so the technician had to keep giving me more, which blew my head up like a balloon (not seen here; the worst of it happened later that night and the next day). It was exhausting to say the least, but I felt extremely cared for by the team and they did whatever they had to do to make me as comfortable as possible. 

So the total was 5,300 grafts (4,000 scalp + 1,300 beard). When we finished up, Dr. Das inspected everything and expressed that she was super happy with the density achieved given the situation, and also that she was able to get 4,000 grafts from scalp donor. I was able to go sit in the "chill" room for a while, eat lunch, and relax. Then we took post-HT pictures.

  

  

I had seen Dr. Sethi while walking through the clinic, so after a few minutes I asked an assistant about him and they said "Oh yeah, of course, he's going to be so happy to see you" or something like that. Then I met Dr. Sethi; he has an absolutely elated personality. He examined the work done and then grabbed my hand and said "Come on, let's go!" It was a busy Saturday at the clinic and there were multiple people there for consultations/planning. Dr. Sethi took my hand and led me all around the building, showing my results to people and having me say hello to other technicians and team members I had not met yet. He asked me where I was from, about my family and schooling, etc. It was a SUPER fun time and his care made me feel fantastic after an exhausting procedure. Dr. Arika Bansal also arrived sometime after and I briefly got to say hello to her on the stairs, and she smiled a bunch at me and told me to send her pictures of the results as time went on. I wish I had taken some selfies with them but everything was chaotic and I was just focused on enjoying the moments. 

Then I spent at least a half hour with one of the leading doctors who gave me a kit full of items and explained the post-care to me. This included: saline spray for the recipient area every hour for 7 days, betadine solution and healing ointment for the donor area daily for 7 days, recovery medication to take for 7 days, months supply of hair growth vitamins, a year's worth of finasteride tablets at no cost, more absorption cloths for pillow, many surgical caps to wear gently over the head if desired while out/traveling, a neck pillow to help with sleeping for the first few nights, a letter to TSA instructing permission for me to travel with oversized items if stopped at the airport (I was not), a book by a Yogi, and an absolutely beautiful letter thanking me for entrusting this clinic and promising a lifetime of friendship.

  

Weekend & Travel Home
I extended my hotel reservation by one night, so I stayed 5 nights stay total. Saturday evening and Sunday I simply relaxed and caught up some movies I wanted to watch in my hotel room. My head was blown up from all the fluid in it; I had to keep pressing it to the sides of my forehead and downward to help the body get rid of it more quickly. Sleeping was not too bad at all. I left Monday morning; my driver took me to the airport and I was on my way back home. Well, first to Doha, which was a fun few hours in Hamad Airport, and then the long flight back home to JFK.

I chose to wear my surgical cap and a loose high-crown hat over top of it, just 2 days after the procedure was finished. If you are careful, this is absolutely safe to do, as the top of the hat lays above the head and does not put pressure on the recipient area.

 

I especially want to thank the leading caregiver technician who worked with me for all three days. He led me around, told me what was next, took all of my pictures, took care of my Gatorade and water drinks, phone, made sure my positions in the chair were comfortable, etc. I did not get to learn his name and wish I had, but he treated me like royalty, as did everyone on the team, and I would never expect or ask for so much love. It made my anxiety in a completely unknown place go away and he made me feel great about every step of the procedure.

I will be posting some updates here since it has already been a few weeks, though I don't plan to spend as much time on this forum as maybe some users going forward. But I know there is a lot of interest in Eugenix and cases like mine, so I will be sure to check in. If you desire, you can also follow me on Instagram @ethanlculver (http://instagram.com/ethanlculver) as I enjoy responding to DMs on there, and I may upload some pictures in the future of the results, if you should be interested. Thank you to all here who contributed to me embarking on this journey. See you around!

As many have said this was a great writeup, but one thing I didn't see in there is how long the grafts were outside before being reinserted? Do you have a sense of how long it took from starting the FUE to inserting them into the recipient area?

[general-etwan]

What do people think of the possibility of using SMP to darken the thinning lower crown/sides area that has not been transplanted into? I can buzz the back and sides down to zero guard length, but what ends up happening is the donor area is still pigmented much darker than that thinning area due to me having pale skin and my hair being dark there. I would never use SMP on the top of the head because I think it looks too bad, but what about using it in that thinning area to attempt to create more homogenous appearance of tone below the transplanted area? Possibility or no?

[Berba11]

7 minutes ago, Gramatik said:

It depends on the remaining donor of each candidate. But as i understood from his write up his donor was not very good and Dr Das was not even sure if she can extracts 4000 grafts from its donor. If his beard can give more grafts then it will be useful.

That doesn't mean it's not possible to get more in a second sitting. It's easier to extract more grafts over two or three surgeries when you can more clearly assess the "safe" areas to take from for homogenous depletion. It'll be why Dr Das was more conservative on the first pass. We've seen numerous cases like this now.

Anyway, let's now just enjoy the OP's progress. The work looks brilliant and I'm sure he'll be delighted in 6/7/8 months time!

[Berba11]

Just now, general-etwan said:

What do people think of the possibility of using SMP to darken the thinning lower crown/sides area that has not been transplanted into? I can buzz the back and sides down to zero guard length, but what ends up happening is the donor area is still pigmented much darker than that thinning area due to me having pale skin and my hair being dark there. I would never use SMP on the top of the head because I think it looks too bad, but what about using it in that thinning area to attempt to create more homogenous appearance of tone below the transplanted area? Possibility or no?

One for @Gatsbyto opine on I reckon, but I think you'll probably be happy with how it looks naturally, especially as you get older and less bothered about it.

[general-etwan]

3 minutes ago, Xanadu said:

As many have said this was a great writeup, but one thing I didn't see in there is how long the grafts were outside before being reinserted? Do you have a sense of how long it took from starting the FUE to inserting them into the recipient area?

Very short period of time. With the DHT strategy, all the slits were made first and ready to go. As the grafts were extracted with the cole punch tool, they were placed into bowls on a table and there were techs in charge of sorting them out (probably to differentiate single grafts vs double grafts vs triple grafts) and then a tech whose job was to load them into the implanter tools and hand each one to the senior techs who did the implantation. It was all a very fast, polished process. I wouldn't say the grafts stayed out of the skin for more than an hour, probably even far less.

[Xanadu]

3 minutes ago, Berba11 said:

One for @Gatsbyto opine on I reckon, but I think you'll probably be happy with how it looks naturally, especially as you get older and less bothered about it.

I agree. Also, I was not too keen on getting a HT until it was almost so much gone that there was little to lose even if the results were not stellar. And even if all went wrong I could shave it all off and the only downside would hopefully be some small white spots on the back - which I would be fine with. If you think like that then imagine having SMP and shaving. you will have SMP in weird patterns and would have to either get it lasered off or get SMP all over. At least it's something to consider I guess.

[general-etwan]

21 minutes ago, Xanadu said:

As many have said this was a great writeup, but one thing I didn't see in there is how long the grafts were outside before being reinserted? Do you have a sense of how long it took from starting the FUE to inserting them into the recipient area?

Very short period of time. With the DHT strategy, all the slits were made first and ready to go. As the grafts were extracted with the cole punch tool, they were placed into bowls on a table and there were techs in charge of sorting them out (probably to differentiate single grafts vs double grafts vs triple grafts) and then a tech whose job was to load them into the implanter tools and hand each one to the senior techs who did the implantation. It was all a very fast, polished process. I wouldn't say the grafts stayed out of the skin for more than an hour, probably even far less.

[general-etwan]

Test post. Some of my responses are saying "hidden" and need to be moderator approved...

[Gatsby]

58 minutes ago, general-etwan said:

What do people think of the possibility of using SMP to darken the thinning lower crown/sides area that has not been transplanted into? I can buzz the back and sides down to zero guard length, but what ends up happening is the donor area is still pigmented much darker than that thinning area due to me having pale skin and my hair being dark there. I would never use SMP on the top of the head because I think it looks too bad, but what about using it in that thinning area to attempt to create more homogenous appearance of tone below the transplanted area? Possibility or no?

I would leave as is and definitely stay away from SMP. Eugenix always leaves something in the bank an at your age they would have accounted for this even more so. When you look at my case I still have 'roughly' 2k scalp grafts and 2k beard grafts for a second procedure (which I never thought was possible). When it comes down to using pubes in your donor scars you know you are literally chucking the kitchen sink at it! 😉

[general-etwan]

7 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

I would leave as is and definitely stay away from SMP. Eugenix always leaves something in the bank an at your age they would have accounted for this even more so. When you look at my case I still have 'roughly' 2k scalp grafts and 2k beard grafts for a second procedure (which I never thought was possible). When it comes down to using pubes in your donor scars you know you are literally chucking the kitchen sink at it! 😉

Will do for now. I am just going to focus on this recovery now, and there is a chance I may be satisfied enough that I don't have any more done. It just depends. I don't expect amazing perfection. What I desired most of all was a more homogenous distribution of hair across the head, and I'm confident I will achieve that to a great degree.

[general-etwan]

I wanted to answer the question about how long the grafts remained outside the skin before being implanted but my response is being hidden for reasons I don't know. Here's another attempt:

Very short period of time. With the DHT strategy, all the incisions were made first and ready to go. As the grafts were extracted with the cole punch tool, they were placed into bowls on a table and there were techs in charge of sorting them out (probably to differentiate single grafts vs double grafts vs triple grafts) and then a tech whose job was to load them into the implanter tools and hand each one to the senior techs who did the implantation. It was all a very smooth, polished process from what I can recall. I wouldn't say any grafts stayed out of the skin for more than a few hours but probably even far less.

@Melvin- ModeratorCan you help with approving these responses that are for some reason being hidden? Thanks!

Edited October 10, 2022 by general-etwan

[Xanadu]

12 hours ago, general-etwan said:

Will do for now. I am just going to focus on this recovery now, and there is a chance I may be satisfied enough that I don't have any more done. It just depends. I don't expect amazing perfection. What I desired most of all was a more homogenous distribution of hair across the head, and I'm confident I will achieve that to a great degree.

If the hairline and density is good, and the donor looks good, then next we hope it will actually grow out after the ugly duckling stage. And how long time the grafts were outside the body from extraction to reinserting them again may be very important in determining if the hair will actually grow out again after the initially transplanted grafts fall out. 

That's why I asked you if you remember how long it took, or if they have a fixed max time it should be outside?

[Fego]

WHT is the punch size used to extrect the beard graft

[Xanadu]

16 hours ago, general-etwan said:

Very short period of time. With the DHT strategy, all the slits were made first and ready to go. As the grafts were extracted with the cole punch tool, they were placed into bowls on a table and there were techs in charge of sorting them out (probably to differentiate single grafts vs double grafts vs triple grafts) and then a tech whose job was to load them into the implanter tools and hand each one to the senior techs who did the implantation. It was all a very fast, polished process. I wouldn't say the grafts stayed out of the skin for more than an hour, probably even far less.

Yes, earlier I just saw that they do it like that. Should be good. Good luck, and looking forward to your updates.

[Bb111]

Great write up. Looking forward to seeing your updates. Good luck!

[general-etwan]

11 hours ago, Xanadu said:

If the hairline and density is good, and the donor looks good, then next we hope it will actually grow out after the ugly duckling stage. And how long time the grafts were outside the body from extraction to reinserting them again may be very important in determining if the hair will actually grow out again after the initially transplanted grafts fall out. 

That's why I asked you if you remember how long it took, or if they have a fixed max time it should be outside?

Yeah, it wasn't long. I can't put an exact time on it because, as I actually forgot to mention, I was zoned out in my head for much of the procedure (and even dozed off at times), and so I wasn't watching exactly how long the grafts remained outside. But I want to say some of the implantation began as the extraction was still being completed, on certain areas of the head during which I was sitting up more. The whole team was working smooth and so I wouldn't say it was more than 1-3 hours (?) of each graft being outside the skin, maximum. How does that rank up vs other clinics around the world?

11 hours ago, Fego said:

WHT is the punch size used to extrect the beard graft

I believe I recall reading 0.9 mm for scalp grafts and 0.7 mm for beard grafts.

[general-etwan]

Donor area after 2 weeks.

[Xanadu]

6 minutes ago, general-etwan said:

Yeah, it wasn't long. I can't put an exact time on it because, as I actually forgot to mention, I was zoned out in my head for much of the procedure (and even dozed off at times), and so I wasn't watching exactly how long the grafts remained outside. But I want to say some of the implantation began as the extraction was still being completed, on certain areas of the head during which I was sitting up more. The whole team was working smooth and so I wouldn't say it was more than 1-3 hours (?) of each graft being outside the skin, maximum. How does that rank up vs other clinics around the world?

I believe I recall reading 0.9 mm for scalp grafts and 0.7 mm for beard grafts.

Some clinics have max time of 1.5 to 2 hours.

[general-etwan]

I decided to buzz the back and sizes of my head at week 3 to see how things looked with it at almost zero length. It still looks rough, but this is the worst it will ever look and will only get better. I wanted to see what the future prospects are for sporting a short-buzzed back and sizes and potential fade up toward the top.

Also, shedding began strong by 2 weeks, so now we push ahead...

 

 

[general-etwan]

Also 3 weeks, less harsh lighting.

[ZeeMan]

Congrats on the HT @general-etwan, you went with the best clinic!

As I prepare for my own procedure next month, had couple Q's.

Q: What kind of visa did you get? (I'm in the US as well).

Q: Did you fill the AirSuvedha form before boarding the flight in the US, or before landing in Delhi?

Q: How was the Covid vaccination verified? Pic on phone? Who/where asks for this? Immigration at Delhi?