Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted October 5, 2021 Regular Member Share Posted October 5, 2021 I’ve been gradually receding since I was around 22. Since hitting 30 however that has progressed from minor front hairline regression, towards my crown. I do not use any medication at present for my hair loss. I have been researching HT but I am finding it a minefield and would appreciate any advice. The costs in the UK are out of my affordability (Quoted upwards of £10k!) so like countless others I’ve like towards Europe / Turkey. I am aware of the horror stories and mistakes others have made thanks to this forum but am finding it difficult making a decision. From a previous consultation I have been advised I require roughly 3500 grafts? My donor area does appear to be strong. Can anyone point me in the direction of good surgeons with semi reasonable prices. Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 5, 2021 Administrators Share Posted October 5, 2021 I would recommend not getting an HT unless you can afford a decent surgeon. You need at least 5,000 grafts, even a good doctor in Turkey is gonna charge near 10k. I would not be swayed by cheap hair transplants, instead focus on quality, the absolute cheapest doctor is Bicer at 1.5 per graft. https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/physician/Turkey/Ozlem-Bicer/694 Quote I was just an inch away from booking a a hairmill based on google reviews before i stumbled upon this goldmine of a forum. I’m a paid administrator for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive compensation from any clinic, and my comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted October 5, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 5, 2021 Thanks for the swift reply I have read too much around various forums to fall into the trap of going down the cheap route which is why I have posted on here for advice When originally quoted for 3500 I did think that as a little on the light side given the extent of my hair loss. So it’s good to have confirmation my own gut feeling was right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member blackislback Posted October 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 5, 2021 Your donor area looks good, about solid clinics in Turkey, check thread below, where are mostly recommended clinics-doctors here at HRN, table is made with experience of many HRN members - real facts, as threads of HRN members who already performed HTs and posted their post-op results, in frame like 1-12 months. 4-5k x 1.3e or 1.5e lowest prices of these recommended clinics in TR, can be something like 5.5-6k up to 7.5k depending of graft numbers, so contact few these clinics from table above, and ask for review your case and send you some quotation with total. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted October 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 5, 2021 @ScottishGuy21 I fully agree with @Melvin- Moderator because there’s no way 3500 grafts with rebuild your frontal hairline and midscalp. Turkey is the world capital of botched hair transplants and since you require a mega session with decent rates I would strongly advise you to look into Eugenix. You have a Eugenix package that has Dr. Arika involved with the surgery and it cost’s the same as Dr. Bicer. Wish you all the best! Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious25 Posted October 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 5, 2021 Save up your pennies, and get in touch with Hattingen for an FUT procedure (If you don't mind the scar) - you seem to be a perfect candidate for them going off your pics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted October 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Curious25 said: Save up your pennies, and get in touch with Hattingen for an FUT procedure (If you don't mind the scar) - you seem to be a perfect candidate for them going off your pics. Totally agree with @Curious25 if you want the best possible outcome you should chose Dr. Muresanu at Hattingen because they are Kings at mega sessions along with H&W. Only if budget is a real concern should you consider Eugenix but please remember that is a irreversible surgery that will forever afect your life so my advice to you is to save up and go for the best! Edited October 5, 2021 by Portugal25 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Doron Harati Posted October 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) Looks very strong donor, I would estimate around 3000-3500 grafts for frontal only. At HDC clinic we can offer you Dr. Christina 2.0 Euros per graft, which includes our free accommodations next to the clinic for 7 days treatment: 2 days of surgery and 4 more days of washing all your scabs in our clinic, you need to make sure the middle scalp is thin for a procedure so it wont hurt your natural hair. We're also recommend in this forum. Our Instagram: https://instagram.com/doronhairadvisor_hdc?utm_medium=copy_link Edited October 5, 2021 by Doron Harati 1 Doron Harati - Patient consultant coordinator for HDC Hair Clinic. For consultation, WhatsApp: +972526542654 Mail: doronhdc@gmail.com HDC Instegram: https://instagram.com/doronhairadvisor_hdc?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= * All comments from this account should not be taken or construed as medical advice, all comments are only the personal opinions of the poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted October 5, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 5, 2021 Again, thank you to everyone who has replied. A wealth of information that i’ll consider before taking my next step. As someone has mentioned would it perhaps be feasible to approach this in two stages with highly skilled surgeons? Stage one concentrating on frontal loss? Before going back for stage two as soon as economically possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 5, 2021 Administrators Share Posted October 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, Doron Harati said: Looks very strong donor, I would estimate around 3000-3500 grafts for frontal only. At HDC clinic we can offer you Dr. Christina 2.0 Euros per graft, which includes our free accommodations next to the clinic for 7 days treatment: 2 days of surgery and 4 more days of washing all your scabs in our clinic, you need to make sure the middle scalp is thin for a procedure so it wont hurt your natural hair. We're also recommend in this forum. Our Instagram: https://instagram.com/doronhairadvisor_hdc?utm_medium=copy_link HDC is a solid choice as well. Quote I was just an inch away from booking a a hairmill based on google reviews before i stumbled upon this goldmine of a forum. I’m a paid administrator for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive compensation from any clinic, and my comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted October 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ScottishGuy21 said: Again, thank you to everyone who has replied. A wealth of information that i’ll consider before taking my next step. As someone has mentioned would it perhaps be feasible to approach this in two stages with highly skilled surgeons? Stage one concentrating on frontal loss? Before going back for stage two as soon as economically possible? @ScottishGuy21 if you talk with FUE Doctors that are solely focused on getting the best outcome then they will probably insist on doing your HT divided into two surgeries. Dr. Bruno Ferreira did this for my friend @PT#31and his brother @TGR46 he also suggested I did the same (should have listened to him). If you consider FUT at Hattingen you could have it all done in just 1 mega session. Great that you are considering the advise from your HRN friends. Edited October 5, 2021 by Portugal25 1 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digi23 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ScottishGuy21 said: Again, thank you to everyone who has replied. A wealth of information that i’ll consider before taking my next step. As someone has mentioned would it perhaps be feasible to approach this in two stages with highly skilled surgeons? Stage one concentrating on frontal loss? Before going back for stage two as soon as economically possible? It would be a good idea yes to do frontal area first maybe 3000 grafts. Then the rest. Cheapest options in Turkey for your situation should be Dr Erkan Demirsoy 1,25 euro per graft or Dr Özlem Bicer 1,5 euro per graft. Edited October 5, 2021 by digi23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious25 Posted October 6, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 6, 2021 13 hours ago, ScottishGuy21 said: As someone has mentioned would it perhaps be feasible to approach this in two stages with highly skilled surgeons? Stage one concentrating on frontal loss? Before going back for stage two as soon as economically possible? I’d personally opt for this. The smaller sessions that you break down surgeries into, the less room for error or losing finite grafts. If your heart is set on FUE, then this is the only way to go IMO. A mega session of FUE is never a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted November 30, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) So 12 months on I finally bit the bullet and had my first procedure. I spoke to several Dr’s but in the end opted for Dr Bicer. She was the most open and honest about what to expect. It’s clear she takes great pride in her work and cares about her patients. Originally I wanted a slightly lower hairline but during consultation she convinced me otherwise, stressing the need for donor preservation given my circs. I’m mid to late 30s, taking 1mg Fin a day (Can’t take Minox, had a few reactions in the past to it unfortunately)and will need two procedures. One frontal and the second mid scalp / crown. Whilst Fin may be effective at the moment Bicer explained it’s important not to exhaust incase gradual further recession kicks in late on in life. So there’s some in the tank so to speak for touch ups if this did ever happen. We agreed on a conservative hairline to begin with during session 1 which looking back was a sensible idea. It’s one thing seeing the lines of where she will operate but it’s another when you see it completed minutes after you’ve got out the chair. Only then do you realise the skill and effort that goes into this. In the end she transplanted just over 4000 grafts which is the very top end of what she would be willing to do in a day. From arrival to finish I was there close to 11 hours but it didn’t feel that long. The procedure was practically painless, the only mild pain is the initial anaesthetic going in. The rest your head is numb so you don’t feel a thing. I was very comfortable throughout and Dr Bicer and her close knit staff are all very friendly. I opted for the transfer / apartment package they offer. Yes it is a little more expensive than independent booking but it takes away all the stress of travelling. The apartment is in the same block as her surgery which post op is very welcome, likewise the next morning when you go back to get your bandages removed and for a check up. I would recommend this as the first few hours are crucial for your recipient areas so the less stress or exposure to the elements the better. Im currently on week 8 and so far so good bar the odd pimple 🤣. After 6 weeks I had the beginning of the dreaded shed which is now in full swing but my donor has healed up well. In daylight it is slightly noticeable but after 8 weeks it looks much better than I expected at this stage. I did also have a dry scalp around week 4 but on Dr Bicer advice began using almond oil which has worked a treat. I wasn’t going to post my progress but with so much misinformation out there I think it’s important to do so. Above 5 days post op Above 9 days post op Above and below just before the shed kicked in. The above is straight out the shower, so my crown does look much thinner and it would dry as the photo above that shows Edited November 30, 2022 by ScottishGuy21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted December 1, 2022 Valued Contributor Share Posted December 1, 2022 @ScottishGuy21 that's a great result which is no surprise coming from Dr Bicer. 👌 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted December 1, 2022 Moderators Share Posted December 1, 2022 Thanks for coming back and updating us on what you decided to do. 1 Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a paid forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted December 1, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 1, 2022 On 10/5/2021 at 11:25 PM, Melvin- Moderator said: HDC is a solid choice as well. Will continue to update thread with progress but may be in the wrong section now. Can you move it Melvin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted December 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted December 31, 2022 3 month update So far so good. Donor area back to pre op. Already have a fair bit of growth in my recipient area which I never expected so early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted February 1, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 1, 2023 Just a few days shy of month 4. Slowly but surely it’s moving in the right direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor A_4_Archan Posted February 1, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted February 1, 2023 Going good ..u will start getting growth from now onwards ..😊 Check Out My Hair Transplant Journey --> My Thread 3611 FUE Grafts With Dr Kongkiat Laorwong | Norwood 5 | 2nd May 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted March 2, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 2, 2023 5 months in now This is in lower light, density getting there but in harsh light it still looks relatively thin. Looking forward to it thickening up over the next few months (Hopefully anyway!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Redmann Posted March 2, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 2, 2023 Looks very nice, man. Take this from a guy who fell into the trap of doing it in the UK and not going abroad, and 4+ months in has nothing even close to those results. Seems you have done the right thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted March 2, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted March 2, 2023 Looking good. Great coverage and at five months you have a lot more growing in front of you. All the best! 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted March 3, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Redmann said: Looks very nice, man. Take this from a guy who fell into the trap of doing it in the UK and not going abroad, and 4+ months in has nothing even close to those results. Seems you have done the right thing! Thanks, happy so far for where i’m at 4 months is still early. With a bit of luck you see some decent growth this month 👍🏻. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spring15 Posted March 3, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2023 Nice. Look forward to seeing how it progresses over the coming months braveheart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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