Very High Density forehead reduction (3361 grafts)

[SD1984]

Nice! If it weren't for the redness you could do a buzzcut right now and be perfectly fine with zero signs of surgery.

[Guy73]

18 hours ago, Fue3361 said:

Time is going so slowly... 6 months can’t come fast enough.

 

Here’s 2 months 18 days, in natural sunlight:

 

new hairline and temporal region are starting to get more defined.  Any guesses for how many months until it looks like I’ve not has a transplant?

That is going to look fantastic!!

[Fue3361]

59 minutes ago, Guy73 said:

That is going to look fantastic!!

Thanks!  The temporal peaks are actually starting to look dense enough not to be too obvious.  Cant wait for the entire hairline to get to the density it had week 1 of transplant before the shedding.

[Fue3361]

3 Month Update:
(Small note, in the pictures I'm raising my eyebrows aggressively (accident) so forehead looks smaller than is)

All pictures taken in sunlight.  

 

 

I think the temporal points and that general area are pretty well filled in by this point.  The graft direction and angle seem pretty spot on to me so far, and for 3 months, density seems to be filling in decently. 

 

Here's comparing to month 2 (a month ago):

Edited December 3, 2021 by Fue3361

[niteynite]

Looking great only three months in. Can only get better from here!

[Fue3361]

1 hour ago, niteynite said:

Looking great only three months in. Can only get better from here!

Thanks!

Hopefully in 3 more months it will look unnoticeable, like it does for some other members here!

[Fue3361]

I'm curious what percentage of growth I'm at right now, it being 3 months and all.  Would you say this is 15%, 20%, 30%, more maybe?

[digi23]

1 hour ago, Fue3361 said:

I'm curious what percentage of growth I'm at right now, it being 3 months and all.  Would you say this is 15%, 20%, 30%, more maybe?

Well your temples seem to be over 50%, to me they look almost done at only 3 months which is pretty insane.

Front is less, but its impossible to say %, to guesstimate front I would say maybe 20% considering you had 75+ grafts per cm2 implanted. You are a early grower thats for sure.

Edited December 5, 2021 by digi23

[Curious25]

Yea this is a very weird case as it goes against the grain of quite a few hair restoration norms that we have become accustomed to - eg your transplanted density, and considerable temple growth at only 3 months. Very impressive really. 
 

You’re going to get a great result anyway, I’m sure - I imagine by the 6 month mark, you will be making us all very enviable on here. 
 

Who was your surgeon ? 

[Fue3361]

I had my surgery with Thiago Bianco Leal, who does a ton of celebrity cases in Brazil.

 

While I know that Tykocinski is more often recommended by people on this forum, it has been my opinion for a long time that Thiago Bianco does absolute art when it comes to temporal peak work, and the density he does seems to be unmatched.  He’s also the go to in Brazil for celebrities and famous people.

 

That said, he has a 1-2 year waiting list (he does 1 surgery a day) and is very expensive for Brazilian standards.  Thankfully I’m not Brazilian, so for me it was quite affordable (still quite cheaper than work in the US).

 

@Curious25

Edited December 5, 2021 by Fue3361

[Fue3361]

As for the density, he has been doing these ultra high densities (as he calls them) for only about two years.  I’m not entirely sure of what surgical differences he implements, but he charges quite a bit more for it (he has a team of up to 10 people doing various things at once during surgery) and the post op is different.

 

As I mentioned before, I’ve been taking Cialis and Viagra for 3 months as part of my post op to maximize skin bloodflow.  Just finished taking it yesterday.

[digi23]

24 minutes ago, Fue3361 said:

I had my surgery with Thiago Bianco Leal, who does a ton of celebrity cases in Brazil.

 

While I know that Tykocinski is more often recommended by people on this forum, it has been my opinion for a long time that Thiago Bianco does absolute art when it comes to temporal peak work, and the density he does seems to be unmatched.  He’s also the go to in Brazil for celebrities and famous people.

 

That said, he has a 1-2 year waiting list (he does 1 surgery a day) and is very expensive for Brazilian standards.  Thankfully I’m not Brazilian, so for me it was quite affordable (still quite cheaper than work in the US).

Interesting, never heard of him to be honest. How did you find him? Did you find any reviews on some brasilian forum?

Its quite interesting when you see someone go so far off the norm compared to some of the best in the world like Dr Christian Bisanga, which is strategically placing more multiple grafts with 3+ hairs rather than doing higher grafts per cm2 to get the same amount of fullness without risk. If you transplant 35 grafts per cm2 with only triples you get 105 hairs, if you transplant 80 grafts per cm2 singles you get 80 hairs.

Edited December 5, 2021 by digi23

[Fue3361]

9 minutes ago, digi23 said:

Interesting, never heard of him to be honest. How did you find him? Did you find any reviews on some brasilian forum?

Its quite interesting when you see someone go so far off the norm compared to some of the best in the world like Dr Christian Bisanga, which is strategically placing more multiple grafts with 3+ hairs rather than doing higher grafts per cm2 to get the same amount of fullness without risk. If you transplant 35 grafts per cm2 with only triples you get 105 hairs, if you transplant 80 grafts per cm2 singles you get 80 hairs. 

I’ve seen the work he did on some famous singers in Brazil, so then started looking more into him.

 

The price was extremely competitive when compared to US or even some Europe places.  My case was about 10k USD.  If looking at it from a $ per graft, that’s only 3 bucks (though he doesn’t charge per graft).

 

Also, USD is very strong compared to Brazilian currency atm (and was a year ago).  Over the last decade it went from like 1:1.5 to 1:6.  So was a great time to enjoy that exchange rate.

 

That said, yes I was somewhat hesitant and there were safer options for sure.  But I like the idea of being able to have an imperceptible (or almost imperceptible) buzz cut, and I feel like higher density trumps higher multigrafts in that sense.

 

All of that said though, I’ve not found a single negative review of his work anywhere.  He has quite a big Instagram, and while his google review is of 4.3 stars, all the negative ones are strictly complaining that it is too hard to schedule an appointment with him.

 

Edit:  I do have multigrafts in the transplant obviously, just not right in front at the hairline.

Edited December 5, 2021 by Fue3361

[digi23]

2 minutes ago, Fue3361 said:

I’ve seen the work he did one some famous singers in Brazil, so the started looking for into him.

 

The price was extremely competitive when compared to US or even some Europe places.  My case was about 10k USD.  If looking at it from a $ per graft, that’s only 3 bucks.

 

Also, USD is very strong compared to Brazilian currency atm (and was a year ago).  Over the last decade it went from like 1:1.5 to 1:6.  So was a great time to enjoy that exchange rate.

 

That said, yes I was somewhat hesitant and there were safer options for sure.  But I like the idea of being able to have an imperceptible (or almost imperceptible) buzz cut, and I feel like higher density trumps higher multigrafts in that sense.

I see, also I understand if you like to have a buzzcut to go with higher amount per cm2, it will look pretty good. 

I am sure it will be a success, your temples look great, will be fun to see the end result. 

Good that you wanted to tell us which Dr it was, I will do some research on him. 

[Fue3361]

Just now, digi23 said:

I see, also I understand if you like to have a buzzcut to go with higher amount per cm2, it will look pretty good. 

I am sure it will be a success, your temples look great, will be fun to see the end result. 

Good that you wanted to tell us which Dr it was, I will do some research on him. 

I was just paranoid in the first days of giving off too much info and people finding out about the HT.  At this point, many people know I did a transplant so I care much less.

[Fue3361]

12 minutes ago, digi23 said:

I see, also I understand if you like to have a buzzcut to go with higher amount per cm2, it will look pretty good. 

I am sure it will be a success, your temples look great, will be fun to see the end result. 

Good that you wanted to tell us which Dr it was, I will do some research on him. 

Here’s the case that impressed me the most, as it was exactly my type of hairline lowering I wanted.  This is a pic off hos instagram:

 

 

Had temporal peaks remade, and decent lowering and narrowing of forehead.  And to me, looks imperceptible.  Was what sold me the most, since what I wanted was identical.

 

one more actually showing work:

 

Edited December 5, 2021 by Fue3361

[digi23]

7 minutes ago, Fue3361 said:

Here’s the case that impressed me the most, as it was exactly my type of hairline lowering I wanted.  This is a pic off hos instagram:

 

 

Had temporal peaks remade, and decent lowering and narrowing of forehead.  And to me, looks imperceptible.  Was what sold me the most, since what I wanted was identical.

Indeed it looks like a good result. 

This one is one of my all time favs, also similiar planning

 

[Fue3361]

3 minutes ago, digi23 said:

Indeed it looks like a good result. 

This one is one of my all time favs, also similiar planning

 

That looks very good.  2,9k grafts for a very small area, wonder what the density was.  Looks similar to mine at first glace on post op pics.

[Kaya]

Even though you are on your way to have an outstanding density and a result, I would not  have HT with this doctor: 

- I read the reviews on google. All the bad reviews complain about the same thing: Lack of communication, not being able to reach out to doctor, nurse evaluating the cases, and team being attentive only on budget.

- We love ultra high density but transplanting almost half of the donor in such a small area has elevated risk of necrosis and subpar result.

- Almost no results on forums

 

How did you find him out on internet at the first place? How did he evaluate your hair, how was the consultation?

Edited December 5, 2021 by Kaya

[Fue3361]

22 minutes ago, Kaya said:

Even though you are on your way to have an outstanding density and a result, I would not  have HT with this doctor: 

- I read the reviews on google. All the bad reviews complain about the same thing: Lack of communication, not being able to reach out to doctor, nurse evaluating the cases, and team being attentive only on budget.

- We love ultra high density but transplanting almost half of the donor in such a small area has elevated risk of necrosis and subpar result.

- Almost no results on forums

 

How did you find him out on internet at the first place? How did he evaluate your hair, how was the consultation?

It’s true.  You can’t really contact the doctor personally unless you set up a consultation.  Issue is, his presential consultations are booked for the next 2 years, and an online consultation takes 6 months to get.  He simply has too much demand.

 

For that reason, you have the option of having photos evaluated and being given a price for surgery (which is the road I took, didn’t wanna wait for 2 years for presencial consultation).

 

They are slow at answering questions (somewhat slow, might take 1-2 hours to answer), but once I paid my deposit I had very swift answers and help all around.

 

So for these reasons, I didn’t really pay much attention to those negative reviews, as they don’t really mean much to you.  I’m not interested in the quality of service that I get in terms of when I’m a non patient asking questions.  I was most concerned about a good result.  Also, to add, I’d be very surprised if any of the bad reviews actually had a transplant with him.  All of them are reviews complaining about not having their questions answered before becoming a patient.

 

I agree, this forum has no posts on him.  Let this be the first one.  That said, he has a 200k+ size instagram and there are a few Brazilian celebrities who are confirmed hos clients, and his work overall impressed me.

 

And when it comes to the actual clinic, all the equipment is top notch, and in my case, I had a team of 10 people working on me at once.

 

To be fair, my case is an outlier, he mostly works on people with actual alopecia, in my case, I can easily afford to waste 3k+ grafts on a small area since I should not lose any hair in the future.

Edited December 5, 2021 by Fue3361

[Kaya]

Thanks for the detailed post, I appreciate that.

How did you find him out at the very first place? Googled ultra high density HT?
 

Is there any forum showing patient results besides Instagram?

Edited December 5, 2021 by Kaya

[Fue3361]

Just now, Kaya said:

Thanks for the detailed post, I appreciate that.

How did you find him out at the very first place? Googled ultra high density HT?

I don’t exactly recall how I got his exact name.  I was looking at quite a lot of different doctors and countries.  
 

I had my transplant 3 months ago, but I waited over 1 year for my surgery date (you can get put on a short notice list if you live close by, and someone cancels, as long as you have all your blood tests and heart evaluation up to date), but that wasnt the case for me.

 

So sadly, it being 2+ years ago, I don’t recall the words I googled.

 

I suspect it had to do with googling something like best hair transplant in Brazil.  I did similarly for Turkey, Europe in general, etc.

[Fue3361]

10 minutes ago, Kaya said:

Thanks for the detailed post, I appreciate that.

How did you find him out at the very first place? Googled ultra high density HT?
 

Is there any forum showing patient results besides Instagram?

No idea if there is a good place to find his patients.  I did stalk a few of the people (their instagrams) who commented on his posta about their transplant to see what the results are like.  
 

What honestly made me feel safe was that I couldn’t find a single person saying that had a bad transplant with him, along with the fact that lots of celebrities choose him (can’t be a bad thing).

 

Was it as safe a choice going in with that info, compared to say a doctor from this forum that had 20+ threads, probably not, but I don’t think it was a risk either.  There were (and are) no red flags that I could see.

[Curious25]

I still can’t believe how much temple growth you’ve experienced within 3 months, I’ve never seen that sort of maturity  occur during my whole 10 something years on forums.

Have you been applying minoxidil to the transplanted are ? 

Edited December 5, 2021 by Curious25

[Fue3361]

35 minutes ago, Curious25 said:

I still can’t believe how much temple growth you’ve experienced within 3 months, I’ve never seen that sort of maturity  occur during my whole 10 something years on forums.

Have you been applying minoxidil to the transplanted are ? 

Nope, but I'm taking oral minoxidil, as part of my post transplant routine.

 

edit:  and yeah, Im happy with temples.  Looking very natural so far.  But honestly I just want to get to final result...

Edited December 5, 2021 by Fue3361