Did your beard hair transplant leave any scarring??

[Al - Moderator]

4 hours ago, Portugal25 said:

My beard donor after 3 days without shaving.

Wow. That looks amazing. Much better than mine did after a few days. How many grafts were taken?

 

EDIT: Oh I read it wrong the first time. I thought that was 3 days after the procedure! Still looks great though!

Edited November 17, 2020 by BeHappy

[Al - Moderator]

16 hours ago, Westview said:

Were the injections into the throat area painful?? I heard they are considerably more painful than the scalp

For me the beard area is a little more painful than the scalp, but the injections for chest grafts are extremely painful. It's hard to get through it and it takes a while.

 

[Zoomster]

Hi @Westview

In short ...i was left with Zero scarring visible to the naked eye and the area worked on looked virgin from around 72 hours post OP....I'd be confident that's the case with HLC ,Pekiner too ...

Good luck 

 

Z

[Westview]

20 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

I’m in the US yes. I haven’t seen better results with BHT in the US, if I’m being honest. Eugenix have a lot of BHT results here that make me confident in choosing them. I don’t let cost or location be the deciding factor.

Here's what I dont understand though, a beard hair FUE should be little to no different than a scalp hair FUE. Perhaps a slightly bigger punch since beard hairs are twice as thick.  But other then that, what could possibly make Eugenix so much better than a North-American FUE expert doctor??  Its basically extract the graft and then insert the graft into the slit, is it not??

I dont get it.  Please explain

Edited November 17, 2020 by Westview

[Melvin- Admin]

1 hour ago, Westview said:

Here's what I dont understand though, a beard hair FUE should be little to no different than a scalp hair FUE. Perhaps a slightly bigger punch since beard hairs are twice as thick.  But other then that, what could possibly make Eugenix so much better than a North-American FUE expert doctor??  Its basically extract the graft and then insert the graft into the slit, is it not??

I dont get it.  Please explain

BHT is a way different than scalp hair, the survival rate is lower, the hair is kinkier. You need a specialist, similar to afrocentric hair. The hair can change directions under the skin. Very few US surgeons regularly perform BHT. Even the ones that do practice BHT don’t regularly post their results. 

They say practice makes perfect, Eugenix in my opinion is one of the few clinics that have been consistently doing BHT and showing the results. Anyway that’s why I’m choosing them. 

[Westview]

19 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

BHT is a way different than scalp hair, the survival rate is lower, the hair is kinkier. You need a specialist, similar to afrocentric hair. The hair can change directions under the skin. Very few US surgeons regularly perform BHT. Even the ones that do practice BHT don’t regularly post their results

 

Interesting.  I did not know that.

Maybe I'll have to make the trip out to Eugenix as well.

Their waiting list is huge btw

[Westview]

Found this interesting article: https://www.milkmanaustralia.com/blogs/news/79284420-beard-hair-versus-head-hair-what-s-the-difference

 

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The hair on the scalp, like that on the face, grows in three steps – but the hair on the face has a much shorter growing phase. These steps include the active growth phase (anagen), the transitional phase (catagen- when growth stops) and the falling out phase (telogen). On the scalp, this cycle lasts for years; on the face it is a matter of months. 

Androgenic hair growth is dependent on the hormone testosterone – the more testosterone a guy has, the more facial hair he will grow. Ironically, testosterone is also responsible for some terminal hair follicles reverting over time to vellus follicles – hence middle-aged scalp baldness (even in the presence of a full and manly beard!).

The hair that guys grow naturally on their faces is a very different beast than what grows on the scalp, or elsewhere on the body, for that matter. Facial hair tends to be thicker, and of a much more wiry texture than that on the head. The skin under the hair is also different. Scalp skin tends to be more oily than facial skin so using some cleansers might be great for removing excess oil from your head but too harsh & drying for the face.

There may also be differences in the ability for the hair to tangle and look unruly. Scalp hair may be straight, yet beard hairs grow thicker and curly – and the reason for this all comes down to the shape of the follicles. Follicles on the face are much more sensitive to androgens like testosterone; these hormones make follicles twist and their resultant hairs become kinked. This means that even the brush you use might need to be different, a stiff one for the beard and a softer one for the head.

Beard hairs may grow in a completely different texture than scalp hair – and even in a different colour. It’s not uncommon to grow red hairs in the beard when there is not a red hair to be seen elsewhere on the body! A man may retain a full head of dark hair into middle age, yet his beard may grow completely grey

 

 

Edited November 18, 2020 by Westview

[gillenator]

On 11/16/2020 at 4:43 PM, Melvin-Moderator said:

Mind sharing some pictures? I’m interested in doing some BHT next year. 

Are you really Melvin?...that surprises me considering your finished results are so good...also, are you considering beard donor or other BH donor regions?

[Melvin- Admin]

Just now, gillenator said:

Are you really Melvin?...that surprises me considering your finished results are so good...also, are you considering beard donor or other BH donor regions?

I’m considering beard donor hair, I have a great result, but my crown is barely touched. I’m looking to get some BHT in the crown.

[Westview]

6 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

I’m considering beard donor hair, I have a great result, but my crown is barely touched. I’m looking to get some BHT in the crown.

How many cm2 approximately do you need covering??

My crown is 80 cm2 and needs about 2,500 to 3,000 grafts

 

[gillenator]

Ohhhhhhh, I see, I never have seen pics of your crown...how many grafts are you contemplating for your crown?

Hope you will share some pics post-op and the months following.

[Melvin- Admin]

14 minutes ago, Westview said:

How many cm2 approximately do you need covering??

My crown is 80 cm2 and needs about 2,500 to 3,000 grafts

 

I’m not sure cm2 wise but pretty large. I probably need a similar number of grafts. Doubt I can get much more than 2,000. But I’m blessed with beard, so well see how much I can get there. Hopefully around 1,000

[Westview]

1 hour ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

I’m not sure cm2 wise but pretty large. I probably need a similar number of grafts. Doubt I can get much more than 2,000. But I’m blessed with beard, so well see how much I can get there. Hopefully around 1,000

The good thing about the crown is it doesnt need to be super dense like the frontal scalp. 

You can get away with a bit less density.

 

[Britanium]

3 minutes ago, Westview said:

The good thing about the crown is it doesnt need to be super dense like the frontal scalp. 

You can get away with a bit less density.

 

Definitely agree, start strong upfront! This is what we and others see 😀

[Westview]

On 11/17/2020 at 6:27 PM, Melvin-Moderator said:

BHT is a way different than scalp hair, the survival rate is lower, the hair is kinkier. You need a specialist, similar to afrocentric hair. The hair can change directions under the skin. Very few US surgeons regularly perform BHT. Even the ones that do practice BHT don’t regularly post their results. 

They say practice makes perfect, Eugenix in my opinion is one of the few clinics that have been consistently doing BHT and showing the results. Anyway that’s why I’m choosing them. 

I'm starting to see what you mean.  Was watching TV the other day and Jack Dorsey was on.

You can see how his beard hair is completely different than his scalp hair.

Its all wiry and stuff.  Kinda weird looking actually

 

 

 

[Melvin- Admin]

15 minutes ago, Westview said:

I'm starting to see what you mean.  Was watching TV the other day and Jack Dorsey was on.

You can see how his beard hair is completely different than his scalp hair.

Its all wiry and stuff.  Kinda weird looking actually

 

 

 

Yea that’s my only concern, but apparently if it’s disguised with scalp hair it blends. 

[Westview]

24 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Yea that’s my only concern, but apparently if it’s disguised with scalp hair it blends. 

I also heard if you keep your hair short it blends much better.

The longer you keep your hair the more unnatural it looks, and vice versa.

I keep my hair  short.  Below 1 inch.  So it should blend okay

[Melvin- Admin]

3 minutes ago, Westview said:

I also heard if you keep your hair short it blends much better.

The longer you keep your hair the more unnatural it looks, and vice versa.

I keep my hair  short.  Below 1 inch.  So it should blend okay

Yea you’d be fine, I like my hair a few inches long. But worst comes to worst I’ll straighten it with a flat iron. 

[Westview]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Westview]

Dr. Lorenzo over in Spain has some excellent BHT results.  I might go with him instead of Eugenix

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Injertocapilar+bht

 

[AB2000]

On 11/16/2020 at 4:36 PM, Westview said:

Were the injections into the throat area painful?? I heard they are considerably more painful than the scalp

That was my experience.  The pain cut through the sedatives.

Edited November 22, 2020 by AB2000

[gillenator]

If the blend ratio in the crown can be approximately 60% scalp and 40% beard grafts, that can definitely help with the visual aesthetics. 

[Westview]

4 hours ago, gillenator said:

If the blend ratio in the crown can be approximately 60% scalp and 40% beard grafts, that can definitely help with the visual aesthetics. 

The doctor at Eugenix told me it can be as low as 33% scalp hairs and 66% beard hairs, and still look reasonably good

[gillenator]

IMHO, it really comes down to the hair characteristics of each individual...for example, someone with a nice wave, neutral color contrast can have a higher BH blend while someone with fine straight hair, wide color contrast would need a higher scalp donor ratio.

[Tamagochihandler]

Zero scars.

Zero scars even when a high number of them were extracted, actually the beard donor recovered much faster than the head donor, in my case.

I want to highlight as well that the survival was good and the coverage as well even when most of these grafts are single hair because of the thick caliber. 

The only minus is that these hairs are slightly different than head hair in appearance but if they are place close to crown and/or mixed in the crown nothing strange will be visible.

Choosing an experience Clinic/Dr is essential if you decide for BHT, because not many have the experience and knowledge to guarantee a good result using BHT. Reputable Surgeons managing BHT are Dr Umar, Dr Bisanga, Dr Lorenzo, HLC Clinic, Dr Mwamba...normally Top Drs who are able to go above the standard to repair bad works previously done by others.

In health.