Raphael84 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) BHR Clinic Dr. Christian BISANGA Age: 35 Technique: FUE Donor density: 80/90/110 FUs/cm2 Hair Caliber: Medium Fine 4004 Graft * Follicular Unit breakdown:- 1s - 574 2s - 1650 3s - 1659 4s - 121 TOTAL: 4004 4004 FU = 9335 Hairs Average = 2,33 hairs/FU Key Observations * Rare for a patient to have density of over 100 FU/cm2 * Higher donor density also means that placing density must be higher than average to allow a natural and smooth transition into native hair behind * Above average hair groupings Pre - Immediately Post Surgery 10 Months Post Surgery Comparison Edited October 13, 2020 by Raphael84 1 Patient Advisor for Dr. Bisanga - BHR Clinic ian@bhrclinic.com - BHR YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcH4PY1OxoYFwSDKzAkZRww I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious25 Posted October 12, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 12, 2020 Fantastic transformation. 110 FU/cm2 donor density 😳 I don't think this patient will ever have to worry about being bald with all those reserves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted October 12, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 12, 2020 Wow 🤩 thats amazing! And this guys beard is awesome too, probs another 5000 grafts in that too 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TorontoMan Posted October 12, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 12, 2020 @Raphael84 Is FU/cm2 the same as microns? Would love to know what his hair calibre is in terms of microns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael84 Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 Thank you for the comments guys. His beard certainly is impressive also. FU (follicular units) / cm2 is referring to how many grafts are within a squared centimetre. Microns in hair restoration are related to the measurement of the diameter of the hair shaft. This particular patient had medium fine hair with an average diameter of hair shaft of 43 microns (0,043 mm). 1 Patient Advisor for Dr. Bisanga - BHR Clinic ian@bhrclinic.com - BHR YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcH4PY1OxoYFwSDKzAkZRww I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member knight19 Posted October 13, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted October 13, 2020 What a result, Bisanga is one of the bests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member giegnosiganoe Posted October 13, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 13, 2020 32 minutes ago, Raphael84 said: This particular patient had medium fine hair with an average diameter of hair shaft of 43 microns (0,043 mm). I thought anything near 50 micron was considered to be "fine"? Could you please explain the range of hair shaft diameter that you see and which would be considered fine vs medium vs thick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted October 13, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, giegnosiganoe said: I thought anything near 50 micron was considered to be "fine"? Could you please explain the range of hair shaft diameter that you see and which would be considered fine vs medium vs thick? I came across this from a study: The solid grey is the mean, and the stick the Standard Deviation (+ and - from the mean) https://www.jle.com/fr/revues/ejd/e-docs/diversity_in_human_hair_growth_diameter_colour_and_shape._an_in_vivo_study_on_young_adults_from_24_different_ethnic_groups_observed_in_the_five_continents_306744/article.phtml Edited October 13, 2020 by 1978matt 2 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member giegnosiganoe Posted October 13, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 13, 2020 43 microns sounds like a "very fine" then, not "medium fine" which I would assume to be in between fine and medium? TBH looking at this patient I would have never guessed his hair shaft diameter was so thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael84 Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Thanks for the further comments and education discussion. Always helpful. Generally speaking, european caucasian hair with a diameter of 0.04 - 0.06m would be considered fine, 0.06 - 0.08 normal, and anything above thick. By comparison, Asian hair is generally quite significantly thicker and despite an average lower density, are able to have the visual of fuller hair. Diameter of the hair shaft will change quite significantly in different areas of the scalp. The auricular area for example will be finer than the occipital. Some of this patients hair will fall into the fine range, and others into the medium range, hence the medium fine description to respect that detail. As detailed, the micron measurement was an average. Interesting study @1978mattThanks for sharing that. It does give a base idea of varying ethnicities and the average diameter of hair shaft. I did read that - "Hair diameter was assessed in 823 volunteers (33% male, 67% women) from 15 countries of Africa, the Americas, Asia and Europe" As this is a very small test group in terms of world population, it would be interesting to see how this scales. It may be an idea to begin a new thread to discuss findings of microns and hair thickness with an appropriately named title to attract more relevant interest and comment. This patient has kindly allowed us to use his photos and video showing his full face which really does add a further dynamic to the result that allows us to appreciate facial features, distances etc... The patient is understandably thrilled. His transformation has taken years off him and Im sure has given him a new found confidence. 1 1 Patient Advisor for Dr. Bisanga - BHR Clinic ian@bhrclinic.com - BHR YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcH4PY1OxoYFwSDKzAkZRww I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JohnCasper Posted October 16, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 16, 2020 Excellent results. Looks super good! Congrats! 1 I am an online representative for Carolina Hair Surgery & Dr. Mike Vories (Recommended on the Hair Transplant Network). View John's before/after photos and videos: http://www.MyFUEhairtransplant.com You can email me at johncasper99@gmail.com I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mycroft Posted October 16, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 4:30 AM, Raphael84 said: Thanks for the further comments and education discussion. Always helpful. Generally speaking, european caucasian hair with a diameter of 0.04 - 0.06m would be considered fine, 0.06 - 0.08 normal, and anything above thick. By comparison, Asian hair is generally quite significantly thicker and despite an average lower density, are able to have the visual of fuller hair. Diameter of the hair shaft will change quite significantly in different areas of the scalp. The auricular area for example will be finer than the occipital. Some of this patients hair will fall into the fine range, and others into the medium range, hence the medium fine description to respect that detail. As detailed, the micron measurement was an average. Interesting study @1978mattThanks for sharing that. It does give a base idea of varying ethnicities and the average diameter of hair shaft. I did read that - "Hair diameter was assessed in 823 volunteers (33% male, 67% women) from 15 countries of Africa, the Americas, Asia and Europe" As this is a very small test group in terms of world population, it would be interesting to see how this scales. It may be an idea to begin a new thread to discuss findings of microns and hair thickness with an appropriately named title to attract more relevant interest and comment. This patient has kindly allowed us to use his photos and video showing his full face which really does add a further dynamic to the result that allows us to appreciate facial features, distances etc... The patient is understandably thrilled. His transformation has taken years off him and Im sure has given him a new found confidence. I would definitely be interested in such a thread. Great patient result. The face framing is night and day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted October 17, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 17, 2020 If it's possible to get 110% yield this guy got it! Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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