Regular Member Nounours Posted September 4, 2020 Regular Member Posted September 4, 2020 Hey everyone! I’m curious to hear what type/brand of protein powder that some of you gym-going forum members use, and what ingredients are you avoiding? I suspect that my hair loss started a few years ago, partly due to some of gym workout shakes I was using. I don’t want to make the same mistake! Thank you!
Regular Member ADuckwithNoHair Posted September 4, 2020 Regular Member Posted September 4, 2020 You may want to avoid creatine as it's been linked to an increase in DHT. Also, according to Dr. Larry Shapiro and Dr. Cooley, whey protein concentrate is better for hair than isolate (link to small sample study). I have no experience with either of these though. 1
Senior Member Taken4Granted Posted September 4, 2020 Senior Member Posted September 4, 2020 A lot of protein isn’t great for your health. Unless you’re legit bodybuilding with an abnormal BMI and low body fat (which is increasingly the norm in our cartoon world), you get what you need from a reasonable diet. I know ppl say that all the time, and it sounds like ignorant hippie BS, but I’ve come to believe that more and more over the years as I’ve gotten less interested in “gainzzz!” and more concerned about aging and dysfunction in multiple organ systems, esp. the liver and brain. 1 “You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not...” - John Lennon
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted September 4, 2020 Administrators Posted September 4, 2020 I use organic plant protein, I stopped using whey protein years ago. 3 Quote I was just an inch away from booking a a hairmill based on google reviews before i stumbled upon this goldmine of a forum. I’m a paid administrator for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive compensation from any clinic, and my comments are not medical advice. Check out my topical dutasteride journey: Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Instagram, YouTube.
Senior Member pkipling Posted September 4, 2020 Senior Member Posted September 4, 2020 Plant-based protein user here too - although I don't know if there's any correlation between protein powders and hair loss. I personally use Vivo Life and it's the best protein powder I've ever used, particularly in regards to digestion. One of the main things I look for with protein powders is making sure they're not full of heavy metals, I avoid whey like the plague, and also want them to be as natural and vitamin-rich as possible. Vivo Life hits all these marks for me - and the company is extremely ethical as well which is a huge added bonus. (Compostable packaging, carbon-neutral delivery, they plant a tree for every sale, etc.) The flavor can sometimes take a bit to get used to as they don't use any artificial flavoring, so it's quite mild compared with other protein powders. Once your pallet adjusts though, you're good to go. 1 I am a patient advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi in Los Angeles, CA. My views/opinions are my own and don't necessarily reflect the opinions of Dr. Mohebi and his staff. Check out my hair loss website for photos FUE surgery by Dr. Mohebi on 7/31/14 2,001 grafts - Ones: 607; Twos: 925; Threes: 413; Fours: 56
Regular Member Myloloves Posted September 29, 2020 Regular Member Posted September 29, 2020 Whey protein and whey isolates are best your best options. ❤️
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted September 29, 2020 Valued Contributor Posted September 29, 2020 The best (and only non drug) way to increase your free testosterone levels is by heavy resistance weight training. The down side is that those who are genetically predisposed to MPB increase their risk of hair loss. Plant based protein is better also. But remember if you do suffer from genetic MPB, not working out/staying healthy isn't going to stop losing your hair anyway. I did serious body building all through my 30's and even though I wore a wear a hair piece (not while training obviously) my hair loss really ramped up during this period I noticed. On the other hand my hair would still have gone South anyway. GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix
Regular Member JJJ00 Posted October 29, 2020 Regular Member Posted October 29, 2020 whey protein concentrate, i highly doubt supplements that are natural reduced hair! MAYBE creatine due to the links to DHT increase however i doubt it
Senior Member Homeerestre Posted November 9, 2020 Senior Member Posted November 9, 2020 Whey protein concentrate would be the best choice for me, but I never heard of creatine linking to loss of hair until now.
SamToSam Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) I drink a protein shake to help boost protein intake 30 minutes after my workout. Sometimes I also drink it before training for about 30 minutes, but I prefer a larger snack. I also have a sensitive stomach, so I don't really like taking protein supplements, only quotes are suitable for me. For digestion, I take special vitamins, if it's interesting, I can advise the Goli Gummies review. I try to adhere to a special diet, I eat well enough, a lot of chicken, eggs, pasta and rice instead of carbohydrates, as well as a little vegetable, baked potatoes, salad, etc. But nevertheless I try to create a deficiency in calories, for this I use a special app. This helps me to make my workouts the most effective. Edited December 17, 2020 by SamToSam
Regular Member FuriousGeorge Posted April 4, 2021 Regular Member Posted April 4, 2021 I think it’s important to state the creatine study so people can make the decision on their own - it’s been only one study with a small group of rugby players. I won’t go into the details here, as it’s easy to find with a simple Google search. But the net net is that there isn’t enough conclusive evidence/other studies with a big enough sample size to positively conclude that creatine causes/furthers hair loss. I’m not saying that it does or it doesn’t - just that the data has not yet been able to scientifically prove it.
MC10298 Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 First and foremost, find a product you like the taste of. Even one you like at the start will get a bit repetitive. Just like training, consistency is key. Consider an unflavoured powder (a lot cheaper) and make lush smoothies with frozen fruit. Sugar-free syrups can be added to give the shake added sweetness/switch up the taste. Sugar-free syrup example https://www.monin.com/uk/sugar-free-syrups.html
Regular Member Rex99 Posted August 7, 2022 Regular Member Posted August 7, 2022 TL;DR I like this complete meal shake. Whey protein concentrate (versus isolate) is the best option for muscle building and general health while also yielding a lower anabolic protein than whey protein isolate. Getting all your protein from lean meat would be better but that can be impractical when targeting high amounts of protein. A couple of points to consider: You want to take enough protein to stimulate muscle protein synthesis. (MPS) Not all protein has the same amino acid profile and, importantly, you need to have sufficient leucine content for this to be triggered. "Dr. Phillips reported that 0.045 grams of leucine per kilogram of body weight (0.0205g/ lb) per meal is the amount needed to optimize muscle protein synthesis. For example, if you weigh 170 pounds (~77kg), you would need about 3.5 grams of leucine per meal to maximize the protein synthetic response. If you weigh 125 pounds (~55kg), you would need about 2.5 grams of leucine per meal to maximize the MPS response." Here are some examples of food sources and their leucine content: Not all protein is equal! So if you are using soy protein, for example, or other plant based proteins you would need to eat a lot more protein to hit the right limit. In general animal based protein >> plant based for muscle building and general health. Read more here: https://gethlth.com/the-best-and-worst-protein-sources/ There seems to be a trend to use plant based protein but it is not based in science if your goal is health (unless you have cancer but that is a whole other topic). The only reason not to use animal protein is if you do not want to for animal rights reasons or if you are trying to avoid certain amino acids. So, assuming you are okay with animal based protein what whey protein should you do use, concentrate or isolate? People often prefer isolate since it is more tolerable to the stomach and doesn't cause gas like concentrate does in some people. It digests quicker and hence has a higher anabolic profile: The higher anabolic profile of isolate is why Dr. Shapiro's shakes use whey protein concentrate. There isn't anything magical about his shake though, so any whey protein concentrate will work just as well. (I used to use his shakes but switched over to a shake that had healthier carbs and fat. I also didn't like the fact that his blend was proprietary... I want to know what I am using!) These figures were taken from this excellent book on body recomp where you can learn more.
Regular Member BaldingEagle1 Posted November 1, 2022 Regular Member Posted November 1, 2022 ON Gold standard Whey for me. Follow my Hair Transplant experience with Eugenix! Nov 16, 2022
gipdip Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 I think the most chemical-free around is Puori brand. Really impressed by them.
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Senior Member shiba1985 Posted January 15, 2023 Senior Member Posted January 15, 2023 I combine 1 scoop of NOW Unflavored whey isolate + 1 scoop of ON chocolate Casein for around 40 ish grams of protein in water + 2 splenda. I blend it with magic bullet or any small blender. it tastes good.
Senior Member airporteffect Posted January 22, 2023 Senior Member Posted January 22, 2023 Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard. ON owns most of the factories that produce the whey so many “competitor” products are the same but repackaged. The ON price point is highly competitive and quality is the most proven. No need to try anything else unless you’re looking for flavors they don’t offer IMHO.
Senior Member John1991 Posted March 11, 2023 Senior Member Posted March 11, 2023 Plant based ensure drinks (180 cals and 20 G protein) and plant based builders bars (290 cals and 20 g of protein). Not because I think whey has any detrimental effect on hair, but because I'm lactose intolerant and this allows me to get protein in easily without worrying about dairy.
Senior Member CEO_of_DHT Posted November 15 Senior Member Posted November 15 I feel that Whey protein is a lot better at protein muscle synthesis and other weightlifting-related issues than plant-based protein. Dr. Yaman 03/24 difficult case - Hair Transplant Reviews - Hair Restoration Network - Community For and By Hair Loss Patients
Regular Member Falling Posted November 22 Regular Member Posted November 22 I'm a fitness enthusiast and I've used all type of proteins in cooking. Whey, Casein, Whey/Casein blend, Vegan... and all I have to say is that it doesn't really matter. Yes, there are slight differences. Casein has been proved to be slow-digesting more effective at night and so on. But I can promise that you will not feel the difference between one type or the other unless you have some sort of intolerance However, when it comes to cooking/baking, they all have very different properties. Whey alone is good. Casein is good for baking and it makes creamier shakes, but it's way overpriced and unless you're into cooking it's not worth it IMO
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