FUE hair transplant to move a hairline?

[originalwonder]

Hello all, I'm unsure if I'm posting in the correct place- so please, correct me if I'm wrong; but I was wondering if I could have some advice from you all? :'D

I'm not really sure if I'm the target audience? I'm a young female- full head of hair. However, something I've always been insecure about is my hairline, and my forehead, and I was wondering about if using FUE is a viable method of moving my hairline. (Something akin to what Stephanie Davis has recently done).

Quarantine has given me a lot of time to.. frankly obsess over it, but, also do a lot of research, and I was wondering if I could get some more opinions.

As far as I'm aware, females experience hair loss differently to males- it being more diffused over the scalp, rather than condensed into one area, like on males. I'm worried that doing something drastic like this, may impact me further down the line.

Oddly enough, my mother shows more signs of balding than my father (how he has so much hair still is a complete mystery to me), however, all of the males on his side are balding and/or bald. I know this may give me an insight on what my hair may do when I am older.

I was looking to lower my hairline about 1-1.5cm, I have fine, dark hair, and I'm Caucasian, so, yaaay for knowing I'll need a bunch of grafts to achieve a good density.

This also may seem like an insanely silly question, I'm sorry, but does the strip method (FUT) harm the rest of my head? Will it pull my forehead back further? And, as a female, is it worth looking into that over FUE? As having a scar at the back of my head is no issue to me.

Is something like this even possible? Or would it be worth looking into a different procedure such as hairline lowering (of which is surgical by nature, and doesn't include any sort of hair grafting).

Any advice or suggestions are appreciated, and thank you for taking the time to read. 😆

[Melvin- Admin]

Hi and welcome to our forum, 

There’s a lot to unpack here, so let me go one by one. 

I looked up Stephanie Davis, and it looks like she has a naturally high hairline. She went to a clinic I’ve never heard of, and seems to be happy. I do think it could’ve been lowered a tad more, but that’s neither here nor there. 

I guess my question to you is- is your hairline naturally high? Or is it receding? Do you have noticeable hair loss in the middle of your scalp where you part your hair down the middle?  If so, you want to treat the hair loss before having surgery, as you may see enough improvement to not require surgery. Common treatment for women includes minoxidil, spironolactone, and progesterone.

That said, if you have dense, full hair, and you just wanna lower your hairline, I’d go the FUT route. You can pull more grafts, and it’s easier to conceal, the scar is a non-issue for most women, because long hair covers the scar.

The only benefit to FUE is the ability to wear your hair short, it’s attractive for men who like to buzz their sides like myself, but for women it’s not worth it. Also, you should know that FUE requires you to shave a portion of the scalp where the grafts will be extracted- this is unappealing to most women. 

Lastly, where do you live? I can recommend some good surgeons in your area that could perform an FUT. 

[originalwonder]

Hi, and thank you

Yes, my hairline is naturally high, I don't have any signs of hair-loss, and as far as I'm aware. It's not receding, although, I think I am recovering from some traction alopecia, usually from wearing my hair in things like high ponytails and buns (of which I have now stopped doing). The hair does seem to be growing back (I'm seeing more baby-hairs around my front, from not wearing it up during the quarantine).

 

I live in the UK, although, I wouldn't be opposed to travelling abroad for treatment. Although, language barriers, and cost do have me concerned.

[Melvin- Admin]

In the UK I believe Farjo performs FUT, in my opinion, the best FUT surgeons are in North America. FUT is typically cheaper than FUE. 

[originalwonder]

Thank you for all your replies and time- if I may ask, what FUT surgeons do you recommend who are based in North America?

[Melvin- Admin]

3 minutes ago, originalwonder said:

Thank you for all your replies and time- if I may ask, what FUT surgeons do you recommend who are based in North America?

Hasson and Wong, Dr. Ron Shapiro, Dr. Gabel, Dr. Cooley, Dr. Konior, Dr. Charles. My doctor was Dr. Diep, he also performs strip. 
 

Take a look at our photo gallery, there are plenty of female patients, and if you see some results that impress you, feel free to click on the doctors profile and submit a free online consultation.

https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/Share-info/hairloss-photos-female.asp

[originalwonder]

Thank you

 

[1978matt]

5 hours ago, originalwonder said:

Hello all, I'm unsure if I'm posting in the correct place- so please, correct me if I'm wrong; but I was wondering if I could have some advice from you all? :'D

I'm not really sure if I'm the target audience? I'm a young female- full head of hair. However, something I've always been insecure about is my hairline, and my forehead, and I was wondering about if using FUE is a viable method of moving my hairline. (Something akin to what Stephanie Davis has recently done).

Quarantine has given me a lot of time to.. frankly obsess over it, but, also do a lot of research, and I was wondering if I could get some more opinions.

As far as I'm aware, females experience hair loss differently to males- it being more diffused over the scalp, rather than condensed into one area, like on males. I'm worried that doing something drastic like this, may impact me further down the line.

Oddly enough, my mother shows more signs of balding than my father (how he has so much hair still is a complete mystery to me), however, all of the males on his side are balding and/or bald. I know this may give me an insight on what my hair may do when I am older.

I was looking to lower my hairline about 1-1.5cm, I have fine, dark hair, and I'm Caucasian, so, yaaay for knowing I'll need a bunch of grafts to achieve a good density.

This also may seem like an insanely silly question, I'm sorry, but does the strip method (FUT) harm the rest of my head? Will it pull my forehead back further? And, as a female, is it worth looking into that over FUE? As having a scar at the back of my head is no issue to me.

Is something like this even possible? Or would it be worth looking into a different procedure such as hairline lowering (of which is surgical by nature, and doesn't include any sort of hair grafting).

Any advice or suggestions are appreciated, and thank you for taking the time to read. 😆

Hairline lowering surgery has the advantage of 'instant results' aside from the scar in the hairline which needs to heal.  Not many doctors perform this but I know Dr Konior and his protege Dr Nadimi can do it.  FUT and FUE you have to wait 6-12months to see results.

For FUT you could also look at Dr Bloxham in New York.  He has a lot of youtube videos.

FUT in the UK is only two options:  Dr Farjo and Dr Ball (the Maitland Clinic in Portsmouth area I think).

There is also Hair Restoration Blackrock in Dublin too.

Edited July 24, 2020 by 1978matt

[Gabreille Nelson Mukhia]

9 hours ago, originalwonder said:

Hello all, I'm unsure if I'm posting in the correct place- so please, correct me if I'm wrong; but I was wondering if I could have some advice from you all? :'D

I'm not really sure if I'm the target audience? I'm a young female- full head of hair. However, something I've always been insecure about is my hairline, and my forehead, and I was wondering about if using FUE is a viable method of moving my hairline. (Something akin to what Stephanie Davis has recently done).

Quarantine has given me a lot of time to.. frankly obsess over it, but, also do a lot of research, and I was wondering if I could get some more opinions.

As far as I'm aware, females experience hair loss differently to males- it being more diffused over the scalp, rather than condensed into one area, like on males. I'm worried that doing something drastic like this, may impact me further down the line.

Oddly enough, my mother shows more signs of balding than my father (how he has so much hair still is a complete mystery to me), however, all of the males on his side are balding and/or bald. I know this may give me an insight on what my hair may do when I am older.

I was looking to lower my hairline about 1-1.5cm, I have fine, dark hair, and I'm Caucasian, so, yaaay for knowing I'll need a bunch of grafts to achieve a good density.

This also may seem like an insanely silly question, I'm sorry, but does the strip method (FUT) harm the rest of my head? Will it pull my forehead back further? And, as a female, is it worth looking into that over FUE? As having a scar at the back of my head is no issue to me.

Is something like this even possible? Or would it be worth looking into a different procedure such as hairline lowering (of which is surgical by nature, and doesn't include any sort of hair grafting).

Any advice or suggestions are appreciated, and thank you for taking the time to read. 😆

It is true that female hair loss is diferent to males. However, there can be a number of reasons for the hair loss. We have had women who have gotten their hairpine lowered because they were conscious of the naturally high hairline they had. For females, a comparatively lesser number of grafts are required mostly due to the smaller area to be covered. However, in females thenonly donor is the back scalp one has to be careful how the available donor is used and optimised.

Traction is a common cause of haur loss in the front. Its true. It can be restored with a transplant.

Cosmetic enhancement of the hairoine is possible for women.

Can you share some pictures of your hairline?

[HTHope]

8 hours ago, Gabreille Nelson Mukhia said:

It is true that female hair loss is diferent to males. However, there can be a number of reasons for the hair loss. We have had women who have gotten their hairpine lowered because they were conscious of the naturally high hairline they had. For females, a comparatively lesser number of grafts are required mostly due to the smaller area to be covered. However, in females thenonly donor is the back scalp one has to be careful how the available donor is used and optimised.

Traction is a common cause of haur loss in the front. Its true. It can be restored with a transplant.

Cosmetic enhancement of the hairoine is possible for women.

Can you share some pictures of your hairline?

Why can women only use the back section of the donor?

[paddyirishman]

As you do not have a major problem with a large degree of baldness over your scalp that is a positive starting point to address your issue. So in that regard its your hairline and no other areas as such. 

Lowering a hairline will not need a really high number of grafts, especially for a female.  So it's not a major HT . When it's a small procedure FUE would be the way to go .  You can go with the celibrity type HT where the back of the head is only partially shaved, and your remaining hair covers the shaved area after the HT to disguise the shaven area. This is presuming your hair is long enough of course. 

If it's short hair you have., FUE would still be the way to go. It's almost impossible to see any scars with the naked eye afterwords if your head is ever shaved down to zero. Go with FUT and you will have a scar, even if it's hidden, but that's not the point. Why go with a more invasive surgery ?  You would be cut and a strip removed from the back of your head. ? When it's a small procedure this would be absoutely needless . 

Best of luck on your journey.

Paddy.

Edited July 25, 2020 by paddyirishman
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[originalwonder]

Hi, thank you to everyone who has replied  

Some have suggested to upload a picture of my hairline as to better see what would be done? I'm sorry if the camera quality is bad . I was silly, and probably should have drawn a line on, using a pen or something, however, to scale, from the mid/highest point of my hairline/forehead, to the top of my brows is around 6-6.5cm. Lowering it 1.5cms brings it down to directly my first 'forehead wrinkle', if you will. 

I'm unsure if this is useful information? As I know I read/saw somewhere that hair grafts don't want to be brought too far down. (I heard within 0.5cms of skin folding, but I'm again unsure if this is just bogus information, and I need to go and ask a specialist/professional.

4 hours ago, paddyirishman said:

As you do not have a major problem with a large degree of baldness over your scalp that is a positive starting point to address your issue. So in that regard its your hairline and no other areas as such. 

Lowering a hairline will not need a really high number of grafts, especially for a female.  So it's not a major HT . When it's a small procedure FUE would be the way to go .  You can go with the celibrity type HT where the back of the head is only partially shaved, and your remaining hair covers the shaved area after the HT to disguise the shaven area. This is presuming your hair is long enough of course. 

If it's short hair you have., FUE would still be the way to go. It's almost impossible to see any scars with the naked eye afterwords if your head is ever shaved down to zero. Go with FUT and you will have a scar, even if it's hidden, but that's not the point. Why go with a more invasive surgery ?  You would be cut and a strip removed from the back of your head. ? When it's a small procedure this would be absoutely needless . 

Best of luck on your journey.

Paddy.

Although you are correct about this in many ways, isn't FUE way more expensive? I was also under the assumption the hairline needed the most grafts- as to not make it look weak, or patchy. Is this different for males and females?

[paddyirishman]

Hello @originalwonder  The most important thing is for single hairs to be placed first in the hairline , the double s behind that and triple s behind again. This is to ensure the hairline looks natural. It's the same for women and men. The hairline design and curve is different in women though. 

It's not necessarily more expensive for FUE. Doctors prices vary, and their skill, especially from country to country and from all over the globe. In any case price should not be your main concern. It's getting a natural undectable hairline is your number1 priority. If you dont have the money now don't go for a quick cheap fix from the first HT doctor you come accross. You will regret the way you will look for the rest of your life.  If you need a repair to undo and recreate a hairline it will cost you twice as much as your first botched HT.

 By the looks of your pic you won't need  a great deal of grafts to achieve a great improvement. I have seen higher hairlines in ladies. Take your time and don't rush your decision.Dont fall for hyped up marketing gimmicks. Do research on your doctors and see similar real patients results to you. Take Care.

Paddy.

 

[pkipling]

Happy to see you're getting some great guidance here! This is definitely something that's possible, and based on the photo, it seems like it'd be a fairly straightforward procedure. 

And good call on cutting back on the high/tight ponies... That alone will help your hairline tremendously. 

[originalwonder]

Hi all, thank you so, so much for your replies and guidance

As one last question- do you think it would be worth following Stephanie Davis' progress? As a celebrity, she'll be in the public spotlight, and seen as she would be having the exact same procedure I would be, at possibly the same clinic??

As another side note, I am in my early 20s, however, most clinics say they won't surgically operate on patients until around age 27/28- should I wait? Or, as a female,  am I safer than males in regards to age-related hair loss?

[Melvin- Admin]

To be honest, celebrities are terrible people to model procedures after, usually they get it done because the clinic offers it to them for free, in return for promotion. Seldom do the results actually look good.

You would be shocked, if I told you the amount of “blue check” celebraties who slide in to our DMs looking for free surgery, in exchange for promotion.  9 times out of 10 you can get better results researching an independent clinic that has built their reputation off of real reviews and results, as opposed to paid promotion and spokesmen. 

As for your second question, on average yes, women are safer. However, that is only if they’re not suffering from genetic hair loss. If you were born with a naturally high hairline, DHT is not the cause, so you should be okay.

[paddyirishman]

Celebrities rarely choose the best doctors and clinics , it's the ones who give them a free HT they go with. 

If your Hairline has been receeding that will be an issue as you are really young and most likely will receed further . On the other hand if you had this high hairline in your early teens you can consider surgery in conjunction with good advice from an ethical Doctor. 

Best wishes

Paddy

[pkipling]

On 7/27/2020 at 5:02 AM, originalwonder said:

Hi all, thank you so, so much for your replies and guidance

As one last question- do you think it would be worth following Stephanie Davis' progress? As a celebrity, she'll be in the public spotlight, and seen as she would be having the exact same procedure I would be, at possibly the same clinic??

As another side note, I am in my early 20s, however, most clinics say they won't surgically operate on patients until around age 27/28- should I wait? Or, as a female,  am I safer than males in regards to age-related hair loss?

As Melvin said, as long as the cause for your higher hairline isn't MPB/hair loss related, you should be fine to do it earlier. I'd suggest starting with a consultation with a reputable, recommended surgeon from this site and getting their input... It's unlikely that it's hair loss related, but they'll be able to help you confidently reach that conclusion if that's the case.