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Hi I’m a 50 year old man going for my first FUE procedure.  I have been told that 1500 grafts will be needed.  This is a hairline correction.  My hair when grown out has a lot of density.  I have been unhappy with my hairline and I am looking for a straighter and lower hairline which is what I had when I was younger.  I am looking for advice and opinions.  I have drawn out my desired hairline. So they are obviously not straight but it’s an idea of where I would like my hairline.  

 

 

 

 

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A line midway between existing and proposed would be better.  What you have drawn would be abnormally low and could look weird, or like a hairpiece if done badly.


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Your hairs fantastic for 50 years old, and your current hairline suits you well. I wouldn’t touch a HT if I was in your shoes, however each to their own. 
As has been said, your proposed hairline is too low and straight, and 1500 grafts for that design wouldn’t be enough to match up with your native density, leaving you looking weird at the front. 
I would recommend following your current hairline shape, however lowering it slightly, and perhaps bringing the temple points out a bit - however these are notoriously very difficult to get right, so I would only trust a very few select doctors if you were to proceed with this course of action. 
Who is your procedure booked with, and what advice are you looking for if your surgery is already planned ? 

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10 minutes ago, 1978matt said:

A line midway between existing and proposed would be better.  What you have drawn would be abnormally low and could look weird, or like a hairpiece if done badly.

Thank you for the advice.  I thought about that as well. I definitely want it to look natural.  My original hairline was quite straight and lower with a small widows peak.  I’m also worried that if I go up too much I am stuck with a big forehead which I am doing my best to avoid.  

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11 minutes ago, Curious25 said:

Your hairs fantastic for 50 years old, and your current hairline suits you well. I wouldn’t touch a HT if I was in your shoes, however each to their own. 
As has been said, your proposed hairline is too low and straight, and 1500 grafts for that design wouldn’t be enough to match up with your native density, leaving you looking weird at the front. 
I would recommend following your current hairline shape, however lowering it slightly, and perhaps bringing the temple points out a bit - however these are notoriously very difficult to get right, so I would only trust a very few select doctors if you were to proceed with this course of action. 
Who is your procedure booked with, and what advice are you looking for if your surgery is already planned ? 

Thank you.  I am trying to avoid the v shape that I currently have.  I am looking for a straighter connection to the temple and do away with the receding look that I currently have. Density is important as well.  It’s very confusing as I have had quite a few consultations and I have been given anywhere from 900 grafts to 3000 grafts.  Luckily I have a few pics of my younger hairline so I’m hoping the doctor will be able to help with the hairline.  I am booked in with Dr. Ismail Ughratdar on July 11.  He is based in Birmingham, England.  

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No idea who that is - have you seen many of his patient posted results ? 
Who else have you consulted with? 
You are in a very strong position because of your minimal hair loss and age, so it’d be a shame to mess it up by chasing perfection but with a poor surgeon. 
I’d recommend doing some more research on this site and consult with a few more top surgeons (probably outside of the UK). 

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17 minutes ago, Curious25 said:

No idea who that is - have you seen many of his patient posted results ? 
Who else have you consulted with? 
You are in a very strong position because of your minimal hair loss and age, so it’d be a shame to mess it up by chasing perfection but with a poor surgeon. 
I’d recommend doing some more research on this site and consult with a few more top surgeons (probably outside of the UK). 

Thank you.  I agree and it’s exactly why I came here.  Hoping I can get more advice and information as I don’t want to be in a position of regret in the future.  I have consulted with several hair clinics located on Harley Street in London.  I have seen some of his work and it all looks good.  He is also a well respected neurosurgeon and I have researched his credentials.  I have also consulted with him directly.  Most of the other clinics have only offered consultations with consultants.  I have also ruled out cheaper options in Turkey for example and have opted to stay in the UK for the procedure.  I definitely don’t want to rush this at all.  Seems the different clinics all have different opinions.  Makes it confusing.  

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That is way to low IMO, it wouldn't look natural on a 50 year old man. I wouldn't lower it that much, I would bring the temples in slightly and leave a slight widows peak. 


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7 hours ago, Qman said:

He is also a well respected neurosurgeon and I have researched his credentials.  

Agree with the other posters about the design being far too low.

Id also suggest only finding a doctor who specialises in Hair transplants ONLY. 

Belgium is a short trip away and you have some of the best clinics in the world there (really!) Check out Feriduni, Bisanga and Lupanzula. 


 

 

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5 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

That is way to low IMO, it wouldn't look natural on a 50 year old man. I wouldn't lower it that much, I would bring the temples in slightly and leave a slight widows peak. 

Thank you,   I’m going to have a look at it and perhaps bring it up a bit as it is too low.  I do want to lose the v shape and the receding as it gives a massive forehead appearance with certain hair cuts I like to wear.  

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1 hour ago, Spidey said:

Don't do anything. 

Thank you.  I appreciated your opinion.  However, doing nothing leaves me unhappy with my current hairline. 

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20 minutes ago, transplantedphil said:

Agree with the other posters about the design being far too low.

Id also suggest only finding a doctor who specialises in Hair transplants ONLY. 

Belgium is a short trip away and you have some of the best clinics in the world there (really!) Check out Feriduni, Bisanga and Lupanzula. 

The information is much appreciated.  I will have a look at the clinics you have recommended.  My main goal is to get a better connection with the hairline and temple and take away what I feel is the massive forehead appearance and receding.  I have added a photo of my younger self.  Although I realize that I’m not 25 anymore, I do believe that this hairline would look quite natural if done right.  

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Your hair is fantastic for 50 (especially if you are not on meds) as your current situation would be most guys endgoal.

I believe the design you posted shows a NW1 (basically juvenile hair). Pretty rare to see in adults - like the only examples I can think of is Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. I agree with everyone else that somewhere inbetween your drawing and current hairline would be more suitable (try looking at NW2 examples online known as a 'mature hairline').

Actually De Freitas in Spain would be another clinic id strongly consider for your specific case. But please consult first with some reputable clinics before committing to surgery ... this industry is a bit dicey (its an unregulated shitshow really) and its full of guys regretting their choices and wishing they could go back to their original state. Ask as many questions as you want and good luck :)


 

 

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1 hour ago, transplantedphil said:

Your hair is fantastic for 50 (especially if you are not on meds) as your current situation would be most guys endgoal.

I believe the design you posted shows a NW1 (basically juvenile hair). Pretty rare to see in adults - like the only examples I can think of is Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. I agree with everyone else that somewhere inbetween your drawing and current hairline would be more suitable (try looking at NW2 examples online known as a 'mature hairline').

Actually De Freitas in Spain would be another clinic id strongly consider for your specific case. But please consult first with some reputable clinics before committing to surgery ... this industry is a bit dicey (its an unregulated shitshow really) and its full of guys regretting their choices and wishing they could go back to their original state. Ask as many questions as you want and good luck :)

Many thanks for the opinion and your advice and information. This has been extremely helpful 🙂

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IMO trying to get the hairline you had in your 20’s is a bad move. Hair restoration is not perfect, and you want it to look natural first and foremost.

Also, you can be a competent neurosurgeon, heart surgeon, or any other surgeon in the world, but if you don’t understand the basics of producing a natural and aesthetic hairline it’s for nothing. I’ve seen many highly skilled plastic surgeons completely botch a hair transplant.

Hair transplantation is complex, and requires it’s on separate field, it takes years of practicing only hair transplants to become proficient.

Something like this would look better IMO.

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I honestly wouldn’t do anything if I was in your position. Your hair is really good and for now totally age appropriate. 
No way would I risk what you have right now. As others have mentioned a hairline should be appropriate for our advancing age. 
If you do have a hairline correction then I certainly wouldn’t lower it much. 
 

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19 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

IMO trying to get the hairline you had in your 20’s is a bad move. Hair restoration is not perfect, and you want it to look natural first and foremost.

Also, you can be a competent neurosurgeon, heart surgeon, or any other surgeon in the world, but if you don’t understand the basics of producing a natural and aesthetic hairline it’s for nothing. I’ve seen many highly skilled plastic surgeons completely botch a hair transplant.

Hair transplantation is complex, and requires it’s on separate field, it takes years of practicing only hair transplants to become proficient.

Something like this would look better IMO.

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Thank you, 

I am being realistic about what I want to achieve. The reference to my younger photo was a general idea about what I would like to achieve.  Do I expect this to be the case? Not exactly, but a nice attempt to create my 50 year old version of that.  I am not expecting perfection.  I do like the sample you have provided. I think that is realistic but I would bring it down slightly on the sides to lessen the receding look. but still giving it a natural look with a bit of the widows peak.  The doctor I have researched and I have spoken with has been doing this procedure for several years and during the consultation, he spent a great deal of time answering my many questions regarding the use of tools, density and who would be doing the actual harvesting and incisions etc.  
I have updated my photos showing my new proposed hairline shaded in grey.  Thank you so much for your opinion and all of the information.  🙂 
 

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8 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

I honestly wouldn’t do anything if I was in your position. Your hair is really good and for now totally age appropriate. 
No way would I risk what you have right now. As others have mentioned a hairline should be appropriate for our advancing age. 
If you do have a hairline correction then I certainly wouldn’t lower it much. 
 

Thank you, 

I respect your opinion, but I do feel the receding has given me quite large forehead. It also doesn’t allow for me to wear certain hairstyles that I like due to the high parting.  We are our own worst critic and I know I am. I am being sensible and doing research, drawing out hairlines and asking opinions before actually having the procedure done.  Guess I’m not one to grow old gracefully 😁

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1500 grafts in your newly proposed hairline (in grey) would give good density and would still look natural. Go for it. We certainly are our own worst critics. 
Is the clinic your speaking with recommended by this forum? 
 

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7 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

1500 grafts in your newly proposed hairline (in grey) would give good density and would still look natural. Go for it. We certainly are out own worst critics. 
Is the clinic your speaking with recommended by this forum? 
 

Thank you, 

No, the clinic is not recommended here.   I have been researching for a while and have had quite a few consultations. I have factored in quality of the work done on previous clients. Credentials, time and how many times the Dr. Has been performing these procedures, aftercare, reviews from independent sites, blogs and vlogs. You name it. Budget is also a factor but not the main factor.  I considered going home to America to have the procedure done but it is too costly.  To be honest of all of the clinics I have spoken to both here and in Europe I felt comfortable after speaking to the doctor he was patient with me and was very informative.  

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I would proceed with extreme caution, I see that your chosen Dr has only recently taken a interest in Hair Transplants.

I could not find any results from him. Have you also consulted with the recommended Drs on here? Reddy and Farjo? Or even Dr Ball? 
 

 

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44 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

I would proceed with extreme caution, I see that your chosen Dr has only recently taken a interest in Hair Transplants.

I could not find any results from him. Have you also consulted with the recommended Drs on here? Reddy and Farjo? Or even Dr Ball? 
 

 

 

44 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

I would proceed with extreme caution, I see that your chosen Dr has only recently taken a interest in Hair Transplants.

I could not find any results from him. Have you also consulted with the recommended Drs on here? Reddy and Farjo? Or even Dr Ball? 
 

 

Thank you,  

I have looked into Dr. Reddy as I think he is also recommended by JT.  He was out of my budget.  The others you have mentioned I have not consulted with.  I have also consulted with Dr. Lupanzula who comes highly recommended as well but he was also way out of my budget range.  Definitely proceeding with caution.  I have this clinic booked in 10 days time but if I do have second thoughts I can cancel which they have guaranteed providing me with a full refund of my deposit.  If I proceed I will definitely post my results here.  Thanks for all of your advice and for your opinion.  It’s very much appreciated.  

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Hi

personally I would not go ahead and instead consult with the other Drs I mentioned. 

What Melvin was explaining is very true. It takes years to became a expert in this field. 
To go with someone who has only recently started showing a interest is risky. The others I mentioned have a proven track record. With hundreds of reviews and results  on this forum and elsewhere.

I ruled out the clinic you are choosing in the past as I got the hard sell, along with just about all the other Uk clinics.

Out of my 5 HTs I had the best results in Turkey. Please consider the other Drs I mentioned if you don’t want to travel. 

It takes a skilled Dr to deal with hairlines/temple points. I don’t believe yours has got any real experience yet. 
 

Being available in just 10 days time means alarm bells to me. Decent clinics have waiting lists. 


 

 

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If you cant afford quality surgeons DO NOT get surgery! We’re talking about your hair here, not a TV. Definitely make sure you’re choosing a doctor based on legitimate reviews. 

There are some high quality surgeons that are still affordable, check out Eugenix, Dr. Bisanga in athens, and Dr. Maras in Cyorus. 


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