BHT abdominal hair - vertex question

[krx]

Hello to all,

I already had 2 transplants with a lot of amount of body hair (1800 grafts from beard, 1200 grafts from chest, 2500 grafts from head) but also had already some miniaturization in the recipient are due to donnor thinning.

While I have a lot of hair left on my abdomen I think about transplanting them to my vertex in the manner I show in the attached pictures.

my goal is to wear a buzzcut like I do know with the length varying between 3 to 5mms.

As abdominal hair is different and a lot of doctors hesitate to work with it due to bigger transsection rates meaning they will not be able to do that big of a numbers I choose dr ayoub in ratingen which s relatively new and worked under feriduni before. It s still a risk.

 

So far I am more than satisfied with the improvement the two previous HT‘s gave me and now I just want to stabilize the sides but leave the vertex open.

I d like to have some input and like to know if I can loose anything except money and scarring on my abdomen.

Thank you

Edit: my hair looks better in the picture than in reality , the area in the red line is not cosmetically significant under normal light conditions.

Edited June 14, 2020 by krx

[Al - Moderator]

I would first want to know if you still have any beard or chest grafts that can be used a those would be best to use. Maybe try to get as much beard and chest hair in the next session and try a small section of abdomen hair to put in the crown where no other hair is being used, so you can see if that grows or not.

 

 

[Gatsby]

Hi Krx. This is just my opinion. Is your scalp donor supply completely maxed out (as well as your beard donor area)? Body hair as you have stated does have a very high transection rate and has a different growth cycle, etc. Are you on finasteride or minoxidil? Another option to give the illusion of more density is to add SMP to your scalp. If you are happy with the results thus far it's really up to you. It's a lot of money (and time) to spend that may not achieve your goals. However this whole 'hair thing' is a mind game with all of us so if it makes you feel better off then it's definitely worth looking into. All the best!

[krx]

Thanks for the answers.

 

Head donor is maxed out, i dont want to touch my beard anymore and the chest hair is something I save for the front.

 

thus abdominal hair is the only option left.

[lovinitl9]

how did the beard and chest hair grow for you, and did they last, grow long, blend? thanks so much

[Westview]

Whats the transection rate for chest and abdominal hairs??

NVM I found it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3764758/

 

Edited June 19, 2020 by Westview

[Westview]

Here is my advice to you:

First, post a picture of your abdomen to see how many grafts you have to donate (or tell us approximately how many you have).

Then if the transection rate is about 1/4 I would try to make a deal with your doctor for some type of discount.

As far as scarring is concerned, laser treatment for scars can do wonders, so I wouldnt worry about that.

If you do get crazy scaring just get some laser therapy afterwards: https://www.google.ca/search?q=laser+treatment+scars&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdzufLiI7qAhVykuAKHSu_AnwQ_AUoAXoECA8QAw&biw=1280&bih=545

 

Edited June 19, 2020 by Westview

[Al - Moderator]

2 hours ago, Westview said:

Whats the transection rate for chest and abdominal hairs??

NVM I found it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3764758/

 

 

That was one patient case with 10 procedures done in 2011 and 2012 when body hair FUE was new and it was the Drs first attempt of using body hair grafts. I would think that the growth rate in current cases has improved since then and almost certainly better than that for Drs who have been using body hair for some time now.

 

[krx]

Thanks for all the answers.

I am aware of that table, the surprising fact is that the yield was pretty low while transsection rate wasn't that high on the other hand.

 

Picture of my abdomen attached. Most of them are 2FU/ graft and I hope 1500 grafts are possible.

 

 

Edited June 21, 2020 by krx

[krx]

On 6/19/2020 at 4:17 PM, Westview said:

Here is my advice to you:

First, post a picture of your abdomen to see how many grafts you have to donate (or tell us approximately how many you have).

Then if the transection rate is about 1/4 I would try to make a deal with your doctor for some type of discount.

As far as scarring is concerned, laser treatment for scars can do wonders, so I wouldnt worry about that.

If you do get crazy scaring just get some laser therapy afterwards: https://www.google.ca/search?q=laser+treatment+scars&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdzufLiI7qAhVykuAKHSu_AnwQ_AUoAXoECA8QAw&biw=1280&bih=545

 

 

On 6/19/2020 at 4:17 PM, Westview said:

Here is my advice to you:

First, post a picture of your abdomen to see how many grafts you have to donate (or tell us approximately how many you have).

Then if the transection rate is about 1/4 I would try to make a deal with your doctor for some type of discount.

As far as scarring is concerned, laser treatment for scars can do wonders, so I wouldnt worry about that.

If you do get crazy scaring just get some laser therapy afterwards: https://www.google.ca/search?q=laser+treatment+scars&lr=&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdzufLiI7qAhVykuAKHSu_AnwQ_AUoAXoECA8QAw&biw=1280&bih=545

 

 

[Curious]

The transection rate for body hair is almost entirely dependent upon the skill of the surgeon.   I had chest hair removed in the early 2000s and it is still growing, with only one small white spot left to show for it.

[krx]

Another picture with shaved hair.

@Curious with removed you mean transplanted to your head or literally just removed.

[Curious]

Transplanted from my chest to the top of my head.

[krx]

Push

[Melvin- Admin]

🤔 From my knowledge, stomach hair grows poorly, chest hair grows slightly better. I can’t say it would be a great option though. Why can’t you touch the beard?

[jmghair]

According to dr sethi at eugenix, the heirarchy when it comes to bht viability is beard, chest, pubic, abdominal, then leg.