Two unsucessful FUE transplants

[OT90]

My hair transplant journey started about a year and half ago. First of all I have never experienced a hair loss but just had minor receding at temples and huge forehead. My age is 30. This was the reason I started looking into a hair transplant .Below are my natural hair before transplants;

 

For my first FUE, I went to Turkey to a clinic called Clinicexpert on recommendation of a friend. I made a huge mistake, they took out about 2700 grafts to lower my hairline. First I requested for straighter hairline but they suggested to follow my natural hairline which I agreed to it. Long story short, they really messed it up by giving me feminine hairline and placing hairs in wrong angulations and multigrafts at hairline.

I knew something was not right but I did not have enough knowledge about hair transplant. I waited about a year to give it time and let the hair grow out. The end result was disappointing to say the least. At least my hair is thick and it was not such obvious at front but from side profiles it looked really bad.

 

 

It was making me really depressed and unhappy, so i decided to go for second one to correct the issues. Again at this point because of my busy lifestyle, I did not do extensive research again! My thinking was to get it done in UK with good reputable experience surgeon and clinic with good reviews. So, I found one with Doctor that supposedly had 20 years experiences and clinic based in Harley street. This time I did asked a lot of questions about single hair placement in hairline, high density and others. The clinic manager and surgeon both promised me they will place only fine single hairs on hairline and density of 30 grafts per cm2 will be achieved. I asked for higher density. At this point my donor looked good at medium hair length, so I decided to go for 1000 grafts to close my hairline gap and make it more softer and straighter which should be plenty for very small area.

On operation day my experience again was about the same as in Turkey, only different being doctor making incisions and techs doing the rest. But in my mind I had faith because of the surgeon experiences and being that the clinic is based in famous Harley street with good reviews.

After ops photos looks ok but the density looks no where near 30grafts per cm2 and also I counted to see about 200-250 grafts on both side of hairline and maybe about 50 or so behind (in existing hairs) In total about 600 visible but nearly about 400 missing. To this day I still haven't had answer from clinic to explain where they have gone.

Fast forward to today, 5 months or so the hair are growing but I can see plenty of doubles and even triple on hairline and temple. Still at early stage but I am very upset. The fact that when I have specifically requested for; good density, temple work and single grafts hairline. None of which has been met. The clinic did not even kept surgical record of graft counts (single, double & etc).

 

 

Now I am in very difficult position with pretty much low donor reserve, possibly sparse hairline with multi grafts and bad temple points. This is why I've decided to create account to post and get suggestions with my case.

The good thing is i have been doing research and understanding more about crucial details of hair transplant. I have had a few consultations with popular surgeons from this forum and also plan to meet a few more in coming months in Belgium. The one that stood out so far was Dr Pradeep & Dr Arika of Eugenix clinic in India. I met Dr Pradeep in London. He has a lot of knowledge and on the day also met with a few of his ex patients during consultation. From their site I also found a few repair cases similar to mine. So I am planning to go to their clinic in India during my holiday to discuss further in a few months time. Any other suggestions??


Note - the reason I haven't disclosed the UK clinic and surgeon name is I am currently awaiting to see how they will deal with my concerns.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 1, 2020 by OT90

[Hairgod]

I've seen worse on here from those Turkish butchers. Post clearer pictures 

Doctors like to talk the talk you see many videos on this.

 

Edited March 1, 2020 by Hairgod

[OT90]

yes, I am awaiting for their response to see how they will resolve it. To be fair, after 1st transplant in Turkey the front view wasn't that bad albeit with many double grafts. My issues was temporal point and the hairline coming down to side of head and hair implanted in wrong direction.

[Hairgod]

Harley Street were against all odds. Not sure though if they had the experience and knowledge to carry this repair out.

Keep the forum updated things may change by 12 months.

It should soften up.

Edited March 1, 2020 by Hairgod

[Min12]

Can you upload a image of your donor? You mentioned low donor reserves, I’m curious to see how it would look after the extractions.

[OT90]

Here its with about clipper size 2. Apologies if the photos are abit unclear.

 

Edited March 1, 2020 by OT90

[HairFunk]

First hair transplant has very poor hairline design, graft selection & the temple peaks. Teeth of a comb hairline comes to mind, can see why you went for repair!

Are you able to post clearer photos? Including better photos of the current repair at 5 months?? Donor region, temples? 2nd op looks better, but at 5 months very hard to say if this is the final outcome. Better to assess nearer the 1 year period when all softer. 

[OT90]

Yes, second one is slight improvement but far away from what i have expected judging from after op pics. Given that it was 1000 grafts usage and seeing the low density plus multigrafts in hairline. Plus they did nothing to repair my temples.

For donor pic, please see above photos. I say maybe about 1000 grafts left before i am left with complete bald patches! Hopefully for next and last repair i want to remove hair from temple area and reuse them in front hairline to add density. Not sure if that is the possibility? 

[Sam818]

The second procedure they should have punched out the misdirected hairs in the temple area and gone for a less aggressive more angular and masculine look. Instead they attempted to camouflage it by going for an ultra aggressive straight hairline. That would require a lot more grafts and based on your thick hair caliber and lighter skin they should have known that. Don’t go back there. It took you two surgeries but it sounds like you’ve smartened up and you’re consulting with multiple ethical clinics. Just trust your gut on which doctor you think is looking out for your best interest.

[HairFunk]

37 minutes ago, OT90 said:

Yes, second one is slight improvement but far away from what i have expected judging from after op pics. Given that it was 1000 grafts usage and seeing the low density plus multigrafts in hairline. Plus they did nothing to repair my temples.

For donor pic, please see above photos. I say maybe about 1000 grafts left before i am left with complete bald patches! Hopefully for next and last repair i want to remove hair from temple area and reuse them in front hairline to add density. Not sure if that is the possibility? 

Photos are better. Hairline looks softer but needs a bit more density. Bottom photo temple peak looks fine, but the top photo needs grafts placing. Why didn't they plant grafts there during repair? 

Keep us updated over the months ahead. 5 months is the half way stage and not really the final result. Maybe take frontal photo with hair combed back so we can judge front better. 

Edited March 1, 2020 by HairFunk

[OT90]

Yes, i am not quite sure what this UK clinic has done. They neither punched out the grafts or went for high density to comouflage the previous work. They had enough grafts to go for higher density. On the top of that there are a lot of multigrafts they placed in hairline. Did nothing to my temple to correct it either. Plus this doctor implanted doubles in my perfectly soft temple hairs. 

I will try to take a few more in coming days in better lighting.

 

[HairFunk]

Ok some grafts planted there. What about other peak? The chunky grafts planted from 1st session do look strange. Do you have post op or pre op donor photos?

Try to get frontal hairline pictures, including temple corners with hair combed back. 6 and 8 months will be interesting. I don't think you'll have much difference after 8 - 10 months though to be honest!

Keep us posted. 

[Hairgod]

After seeing the latest pics this result is very very poor. How can a doctor do this to someone! They must be very sick in the head to allow a patient to have a result like this. 

Hopefully it softens up for you man.

It easy repair for someone ethical and experienced

[Silent1234]

Christ that hairline from first op. At 5 months post op you really need to wait to 12 months to make an accurate judgement on the repair. Another surgery could make it worse! 

[OT90]

Yes, my biggest concern are my temples which the lastest surgery did nothing. Even the hairline i have not much hope looking at the after op pic density. 

My plan will be to punch these grafts out at temple and reimplant them correctly if they are any good and use as little as possible from my donor area. 

 

[Aftermath]

27 minutes ago, OT90 said:

Yes, my biggest concern are my temples which the lastest surgery did nothing. Even the hairline i have not much hope looking at the after op pic density. 

My plan will be to punch these grafts out at temple and reimplant them correctly if they are any good and use as little as possible from my donor area. 

 

Why not get an opinion from a world renowned clinic like H&W, Lorenzo, Konior etc. 

[Silent1234]

30 minutes ago, OT90 said:

Yes, my biggest concern are my temples which the lastest surgery did nothing. Even the hairline i have not much hope looking at the after op pic density. 

My plan will be to punch these grafts out at temple and reimplant them correctly if they are any good and use as little as possible from my donor area. 

 

20 - 30 of the most offending grafts could be punched & reused. Wait for the final result at 10 - 12 months to make an accurate judgement. Minimise the donor use. You might only need a small tweak 100 - 250 grafts if more density is required. 

[Hairgod]

On 3/1/2020 at 11:21 PM, Aftermath said:

Why not get an opinion from a world renowned clinic like H&W, Lorenzo, Konior etc. 

 

 

Edited March 3, 2020 by Hairgod

[Silent1234]

8 minutes ago, Hairgod said:

Don't know how you can put Lorenzo and Wong amongst the worlds best

🙄

[Hairgod]

Plenty of examples to show you

[Sam818]

38 minutes ago, Hairgod said:

Plenty of examples to show you

Honestly when you make a statement like that about two of the worlds best doctors then yes please show us.

[ITA]

3 hours ago, Hairgod said:

6 hours ago, Aftermath said:

 

Don't know how you can put Lorenzo and Wong amongst the worlds best

😳

[Aftermath]

4 hours ago, Hairgod said:

Don't know how you can put Lorenzo and Wong amongst the worlds best

Dr Lorenzo doesn't know how to draw a natural hairline and uses way too many grafts.

Dr Wong angulation of grafts is just wrong in most of his ht

 

Please elaborate hairgod😂 tell us how one of the inventors of the lateral slit, a technique used by the worlds best surgeons doesn’t know how to angle a graft😂

[Cardin1977]

Damn, I’m glad I found this forum. I was thinking about hoping over to Turkey, but now you’ve got me thinking!

Why did the clinic in Turkey place hair here with such a round shape? Did a doctor design this or someone else??

 

[OT90]

@Aftermath yes i have contacted a few. 

@Cardin1977 The design was done by doctor looks nothing like the end result. The rest incisions, planting, extractions were done by techs.  I am sure there are lots of ethical clinics in Turkey. Just make sure you do lots of research. I just didn't do enough and trusted all the fake reviews on google.