H & W Doug Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) This Vancouver-area patient in his early 40’s approached Hasson & Wong in the hopes of restoring density to his frontal zone, mid-scalp and crown. He first began to lose his hair around the age of 25 characterized by recession in the temples and thinning of the crown. Without intervention, Dr. Hasson estimated his likely progression to be a stage 6-7. Upon review of this patient’s case, Dr. Hasson determined that he was a good candidate for a large-scale FUE procedure to address the areas of concern. He also recommended that the patient use Finasteride in order to minimize further hair loss and improve the mid-scalp. During the course of a two-day FUE procedure, Dr. Hasson and his team successfully harvested 4699 grafts that were transplanted into his hairline/frontal zone and crown. Of these grafts, 300 were singles, 2485 were doubles and 1914 were 3-4 hair grafts.These photos were taken approximately 11 months post-op. Edited February 22, 2020 by H & W Doug added photos I am a salaried employee of Hasson and Wong since 2001. Opinions expressed are my own. Hassonandwong.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Steeeve Posted February 20, 2020 Valued Contributor Share Posted February 20, 2020 Unbelievably refined work. As usual. Such a perfect, natural looking frame for his face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mycroft Posted February 20, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 20, 2020 I feel like we don't usually see cases from Dr. Hasson highlighting crown work over hairline work, so this is a pleasant surprise. Were all grafts done in one sitting? What is the patient's future FUE donor capacity given that Dr. Hasson estimated a high level of possible hair loss in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member OliverAtom Posted February 20, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 20, 2020 Looking good and what I really like is that donor, it seems like no grafts were taken from there at all... This extraction was beautifully done!!! I am missing some more clear photos of the CROWN. Could we see more focalized crown photos? Also, could we get the data of how many grafts were used on the crown itselft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H & W Doug Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Thanks for the comments Steeeve, Mycroft and OliverAtom! Mycroft: Day 1 was devoted to the hairline where 2537 grafts were employed. Day 2 consisted of all the crown work using 2162 grafts. This patient has above average donor area density and Dr. Hasson estimates another 7,000 grafts available via FUE. OliverAtom: Here’s another shot of the crown. The goal here is to greatly improve the appearance of the crown while also striking a good balance with the mid scalp/front. To responsibly manage the donor reserves we don’t want to commit too many grafts to the crown but just enough to create the desired cosmetic impact while still maintaining a fairly seamless transition into the mid-scalp. Stayed tuned for some post-op shots of the donor area. 1 I am a salaried employee of Hasson and Wong since 2001. Opinions expressed are my own. Hassonandwong.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Tbcruz Posted February 20, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, H & W Doug said: Dr. Hasson estimates another 7,000 grafts available via FUE. Wow 11699 total donor is crazy and saying fue sounds crazier lol. 1st procedure (8-4-17) - Dr. Luís Nader FUE 1551 grafts. https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/49351-1551-grafts-with-luis-nader/?tab=comments#comment-455985 2nd procedure (2-4-20) - Dr. Blake Bloxham FUT 1986 grafts https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55933-dr-blake-bloxham-fut/?tab=comments#comment-529401 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairlossPA Posted February 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2020 amazing work. thanks for sharing doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Hair4Days Posted February 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Tbcruz said: Wow 11699 total donor is crazy and saying fue sounds crazier lol. This is the complete opposite of Dr Bloxham’s philosophy lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Tbcruz Posted February 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, James C said: This is the complete opposite of Dr Bloxham’s philosophy lol. Yea saying you can do 11k - 12k grafts fue from someones donor is hard to believe. In theory you can take even more out but will it look good and not depleted ? Find it hard to believe. I know some people have really good donor that you can keep digging into and it will hold up but I think that amount is kinda pushing it. I could be wrong I’m no doctor. Edited February 21, 2020 by Tbcruz 1st procedure (8-4-17) - Dr. Luís Nader FUE 1551 grafts. https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/49351-1551-grafts-with-luis-nader/?tab=comments#comment-455985 2nd procedure (2-4-20) - Dr. Blake Bloxham FUT 1986 grafts https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55933-dr-blake-bloxham-fut/?tab=comments#comment-529401 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H & W Doug Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Here are a few photos 1 day post-op. When trying to determine how skilled a clinic is at extracting grafts, look for the smallest possible punch size (while still preserving graft integrity) and an even distribution of extraction sites. (Of course don’t neglect the recipient site regarding growth rates, angle direction control of transplanted hair, hairline design, densities among other factors). Or just look at the quality and consistency of the results over many years😊. Also keep in mind the harvest is important in preserving the donor hair for future considerations. If the harvest is not properly executed, collateral damage to the surrounding follicles can occur and therefore diminish the donor area reserves. An improper harvest can also prevent the purpose of being able to wear the hair short without any noticeable defects. This patient’s remaining donor reserves have been carefully preserved. Notice the uniform spacing of the extraction sites, how small they are and how quickly they start to heal. I am a salaried employee of Hasson and Wong since 2001. Opinions expressed are my own. Hassonandwong.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H & W Doug Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 I've also added these donor shots to the original post. I am a salaried employee of Hasson and Wong since 2001. Opinions expressed are my own. Hassonandwong.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member yesplease Posted February 25, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 3:15 PM, H & W Doug said: Thanks for the comments Steeeve, Mycroft and OliverAtom! Mycroft: Day 1 was devoted to the hairline where 2537 grafts were employed. Day 2 consisted of all the crown work using 2162 grafts. This patient has above average donor area density and Dr. Hasson estimates another 7,000 grafts available via FUE. OliverAtom: Here’s another shot of the crown. The goal here is to greatly improve the appearance of the crown while also striking a good balance with the mid scalp/front. To responsibly manage the donor reserves we don’t want to commit too many grafts to the crown but just enough to create the desired cosmetic impact while still maintaining a fairly seamless transition into the mid-scalp. Stayed tuned for some post-op shots of the donor area. Considering that the overall FUE capacity is estimated at >10k, what do you suppose would be the lifetime donor capacity had this patient first opted for FUT and then underwent FUE for any subsequent procedures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 25, 2020 Administrators Share Posted February 25, 2020 Excellent crown work, truly amazing. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mycroft Posted February 25, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 25, 2020 That's an incredible donor capacity for FUE. The patient is extremely fortunate to have so much in reserve on top of having an existing result like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H & W Doug Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) Thanks for the comments guys. yesplease, Dr. Hasson estimates an additional 2,000 grafts may have been available with an initial FUT depending on scalp laxity. Doug Kline Edited February 26, 2020 by H & W Doug I am a salaried employee of Hasson and Wong since 2001. Opinions expressed are my own. Hassonandwong.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member home1212 Posted March 8, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) I wish H&W was doing FUE when I had my HT! excellent work Edited March 8, 2020 by home1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Hey Doug what size punch was used for this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H & W Doug Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 Hi LonelyGraft, .85 mm punch. I am a salaried employee of Hasson and Wong since 2001. Opinions expressed are my own. Hassonandwong.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 11, 2020 Administrators Share Posted March 11, 2020 It’s crazy how H&W have transformed into one of the industry’s elite FUE clinics. I’m really glad to see this transition, as it’s good to have surgeons that do both. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Cahustler Posted March 11, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) damn , makes me want to go now and just fill the shit out of my crown now even though i am just 12 days Post op Edited March 11, 2020 by Cahustler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member FuriousGeorge Posted March 13, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) Is it my computer/browser or are the photos not showing up anymore for everyone else? Edited March 13, 2020 by FuriousGeorge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member pkipling Posted March 13, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 hours ago, FuriousGeorge said: Is it my computer/browser or are the photos not showing up anymore for everyone else? I'm not able to see the pics either.... So def not just your browser. I am a patient advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi in Los Angeles, CA. My views/opinions are my own and don't necessarily reflect the opinions of Dr. Mohebi and his staff. Check out my hair loss website for photos FUE surgery by Dr. Mohebi on 7/31/14 2,001 grafts - Ones: 607; Twos: 925; Threes: 413; Fours: 56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H & W Doug Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Hi Guys, We had a issue with the server hosting our photos. We hope to have it resolved sometime today. Sorry for the inconvenience. I am a salaried employee of Hasson and Wong since 2001. Opinions expressed are my own. Hassonandwong.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 13, 2020 Administrators Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, H & W Doug said: Hi Guys, We had a issue with the server hosting our photos. We hope to have it resolved sometime today. Sorry for the inconvenience. Everything looks resolved thanks Doug I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member yesplease Posted March 14, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted March 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mark Wolfer said: Hi @H & W Doug I am trying to decide between FUE and FUT for my first surgery and I'm curious about your comment here. Are you saying that 2,000 possible donor grafts are now no longer available because FUE was chosen for this patient instead of FUT? Yes. If you start with FUT, then switch to FUE, you will have more grafts available to transplant over your lifetime. if you start with FUE, the scarring and extractions in the donor area will make it difficult to subsequently do FUT. at a minimum it would reduce FUT yield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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