Senior Member Portugal25 Posted February 10, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 10, 2020 @goose82 after 2 weeks you shouldn’t have any scabs. I was back to work 11 days after surgery and still had a few scabs but for most people 2 weeks after surgery they are all gone. Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted February 10, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, goose82 said: I have mine booked for July, will post my experience up. I have been a long time lurker on this forum so set up an account due to my delight that somebody also has seen Dr Bruno Ferreira. Being in the healthcare profession myself (Optometrist), I got the gut feel of Dr Ferreira being the up and coming No1 hair transplant specialist. Seems a true perfectionist, and you want to invest in someone for the next 20 years for your hairline so he's been by no1 choice. My question is how many days does it take for the scabs to be less visible? Asking so I know when to return to work Nice one! I'm sure you will enjoy your time in there like I did! I had full head of scabs up to day 9 and then I started scrubbing harder and longer. In 15 minutes almost 50% was gone. Next morning I did the same and got rid of 95% of scabs. Technically it depends from you how long you will let them stay there, but as a general rule of thumb, 10-14 days and they are gone! Today was my day 12 and I went back to work. Not everyone understood that I had something done, just buzzed my head :D I'm preparing a youtube video for that as it was a funny experiance! 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted February 10, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) For those of you who wants to learn more about my journey in video format you can watch me on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1ViY7SwjjQ Some people been asking me to make some videos fro m OR and whatnot, so here you go! P.S. I spend quite few days editing this video, put my personality in it, so please, grab a drink or snack and enjoy! Edited February 10, 2020 by Rolandas 1 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted February 13, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2020 How you doing guys? Hope you are well, because I am! Today is day 14 post hair transplant. All scabs are gone and it looks freaking amazing! I guess that's the time when we can see "best case scenario" end result with short hair. Look how well it frames my face! I'm extremely excited for the next 12 months hoping that everything will grow as it is right now... Native hair starts to grow in in the mid scalp/crown. P.s. I forgot to take my cap while being kn the sun... For how long would you say you can safely be under the sun? 5 minutes? Currently I'm worried of such dramatic difference In hair colour! I didn't realise my hair in the back is so dark.. What's your experience with this, will it get lighter, or the way it looks now it's pretty much end result in terms of colour? Thanks gents! 1 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted February 13, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2020 Hey @Rolandas Just saw this thread of yours...it’s crazy how time flies as I recall your microneedling progress thread and now you’re all done with your HT. Congrats! Fantastic write-up on your procedure and experience and the work looks great thus far! Best of luck with progress and looking forward to your updates! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted February 13, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2020 By the way, did Dr Bruno say when you could resume your microneedling routine , if you chose to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted February 13, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2020 Hey man, Thank you as always for your support! Time flies by like crazy, you are right! I'm still waiting for this moment "OMG what have I done!" that normally people are getting days/hours before procedure... 😄 Still nothing here haha... After some conversations over email and live with Dr. Bruno, I understood that he is not a big fan of Microneedling, or shall I say he doesn't believe much in this. During first day of surgery I had tremendous amount of popping and afterwards I asked Dr. Bruno how does he think what's the problem, why is that happened? He was leaning the conversation towards microneedling. He was asking how big needle I've been using, how often etc. He didn't said for sure it happened because of that, but he said that might be one of the POSSIBLE reasons why (increased fibrotic tissue due to needling the scalp etc.). More on popping you can see in my recent video on youtube where I'm going more in depth about this day + overall thoughts about Dr. Ferreira. 1 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member duchaine Posted February 13, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Rolandas said: Hey man, Thank you as always for your support! Time flies by like crazy, you are right! I'm still waiting for this moment "OMG what have I done!" that normally people are getting days/hours before procedure... 😄 Still nothing here haha... After some conversations over email and live with Dr. Bruno, I understood that he is not a big fan of Microneedling, or shall I say he doesn't believe much in this. During first day of surgery I had tremendous amount of popping and afterwards I asked Dr. Bruno how does he think what's the problem, why is that happened? He was leaning the conversation towards microneedling. He was asking how big needle I've been using, how often etc. He didn't said for sure it happened because of that, but he said that might be one of the POSSIBLE reasons why (increased fibrotic tissue due to needling the scalp etc.). More on popping you can see in my recent video on youtube where I'm going more in depth about this day + overall thoughts about Dr. Ferreira. what is popping? So, considering that fibrotic tissue is bad for hair growth, does BF think that MN can be harmful for hairs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Rolandas said: Hey man, Thank you as always for your support! Time flies by like crazy, you are right! I'm still waiting for this moment "OMG what have I done!" that normally people are getting days/hours before procedure... 😄 Still nothing here haha... After some conversations over email and live with Dr. Bruno, I understood that he is not a big fan of Microneedling, or shall I say he doesn't believe much in this. During first day of surgery I had tremendous amount of popping and afterwards I asked Dr. Bruno how does he think what's the problem, why is that happened? He was leaning the conversation towards microneedling. He was asking how big needle I've been using, how often etc. He didn't said for sure it happened because of that, but he said that might be one of the POSSIBLE reasons why (increased fibrotic tissue due to needling the scalp etc.). More on popping you can see in my recent video on youtube where I'm going more in depth about this day + overall thoughts about Dr. Ferreira. What is your YouTube channel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted February 14, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 14, 2020 @Duchaine Microneedling is not harmful for hairs, but it can possibly be harmful for scalp. Again, it's just Dr. Bruno thoughts, nothing confirmed... My scalp was very elastic as I have done a lot of vigorous massages in the past, so maybe that's why. @LonelyGraft It's https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN0LD9DyQeGRci8j5M_qzog I just got started obviously, but still in process of editing more and more videos (and getting less and less shy on the camera!) 😄 1 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Rolandas said: @Duchaine Microneedling is not harmful for hairs, but it can possibly be harmful for scalp. Again, it's just Dr. Bruno thoughts, nothing confirmed... My scalp was very elastic as I have done a lot of vigorous massages in the past, so maybe that's why. @LonelyGraft It's https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN0LD9DyQeGRci8j5M_qzog I just got started obviously, but still in process of editing more and more videos (and getting less and less shy on the camera!) 😄 Great videos and wonderful editing. Please keep up the good work 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted February 14, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Rolandas said: Hey man, Thank you as always for your support! Time flies by like crazy, you are right! I'm still waiting for this moment "OMG what have I done!" that normally people are getting days/hours before procedure... 😄 Still nothing here haha... After some conversations over email and live with Dr. Bruno, I understood that he is not a big fan of Microneedling, or shall I say he doesn't believe much in this. During first day of surgery I had tremendous amount of popping and afterwards I asked Dr. Bruno how does he think what's the problem, why is that happened? He was leaning the conversation towards microneedling. He was asking how big needle I've been using, how often etc. He didn't said for sure it happened because of that, but he said that might be one of the POSSIBLE reasons why (increased fibrotic tissue due to needling the scalp etc.). More on popping you can see in my recent video on youtube where I'm going more in depth about this day + overall thoughts about Dr. Ferreira. You’re welcome! In regards to the microneedling, I think I’d have to disagree with his opinion on microneedling, and from the progress I’ve seen of my own, yours and others, there definitely is something to it. Yeah, I checked out your video where you talk about the issue you had with grafts popping out and bleeding...I’m more on clined to believe that this was due to Minoxidil that you were using and likely due to the better scalp blood circulation and less scalp skin tension due to the microneedling and scalp massages you did, so on one hand it’s good for the scalp but not good to do before you have an HT procedure. How long before the surgery did you stop using Minoxidil and stop microneedling & scalp massage? By the way, nice work on your videos! 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted February 14, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, CosmoKramer said: You’re welcome! In regards to the microneedling, I think I’d have to disagree with his opinion on microneedling, and from the progress I’ve seen of my own, yours and others, there definitely is something to it. Yeah, I checked out your video where you talk about the issue you had with grafts popping out and bleeding...I’m more on clined to believe that this was due to Minoxidil that you were using and likely due to the better scalp blood circulation and less scalp skin tension due to the microneedling and scalp massages you did, so on one hand it’s good for the scalp but not good to do before you have an HT procedure. How long before the surgery did you stop using Minoxidil and stop microneedling & scalp massage? By the way, nice work on your videos! 👍🏻 I think Dr. Bruno is not fully informed on microneedling. I think it's a good think too, but on another hand we dont know what it does for a scalp long term, so it's a fair comment. Dr. Ferreira advised to stop Minoxidil 2 days before surgery, but I did 10 days before. I also stopped any caffeinated drinks 4 days before and alcohol 7 days before. He also advised stop microneedling in beginning of January, so my last session was 31st of December. Scalp massages - stopped around 2-3 years ago 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member duchaine Posted February 14, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 14, 2020 When can you use dermaroller again? Did he give you some advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted February 15, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2020 18 hours ago, duchaine said: When can you use dermaroller again? Did he give you some advice? To be honest I didn't ask as I decided not to go back to Minoxidil, hence not worth using dermaroller as well. 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killa Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 14 hours ago, Rolandas said: To be honest I didn't ask as I decided not to go back to Minoxidil, hence not worth using dermaroller as well. when will you go back for a 2nd round of transplants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted February 16, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, killa said: when will you go back for a 2nd round of transplants? I don't want to rush as donor has finite supply and my AGA is quite aggressive. At the moment I want to see how it will look when all grow out. I will give it a year and will assess the situation. Hopefully Finasteride will improve situation in the crown and mid-scalp. So far in 6 months it did quite a lot which I'm extremely happy. 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member duchaine Posted February 16, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Rolandas said: I don't want to rush as donor has finite supply and my AGA is quite aggressive. At the moment I want to see how it will look when all grow out. I will give it a year and will assess the situation. Hopefully Finasteride will improve situation in the crown and mid-scalp. So far in 6 months it did quite a lot which I'm extremely happy. If your Aga is quite aggressive, why are you quitting minoxidil and derma rolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted February 16, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, duchaine said: If your Aga is quite aggressive, why are you quitting minoxidil and derma rolling? The whole reason why i started dermarolling with minoxidil is because I refused to use Finasteride. I was doing microneedling + dermarolling for 7 months if I recall correctly until I finally decided to get on Finasteride. As far as I know Minoxidil's effectiveness will decrease after ~2 years of use and since I had to quit Minoxidil before my surgery anyways, I decided to quit for good. Hopefully it will not have dramatic effect on my hairloss! I know it might sound counter productive, but I really weighted all pro's & con's, checked the actual result from minox+dermarolling vs finasteride and decided it's not worth keeping it up with little and decreasing effectiveness. Edited February 16, 2020 by Rolandas 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Did u travel from the states? If so how are flight prices to Portugal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member duchaine Posted February 16, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Rolandas said: The whole reason why i started dermarolling with minoxidil is because I refused to use Finasteride. I was doing microneedling + dermarolling for 7 months if I recall correctly until I finally decided to get on Finasteride. As far as I know Minoxidil's effectiveness will decrease after ~2 years of use and since I had to quit Minoxidil before my surgery anyways, I decided to quit for good. Hopefully it will not have dramatic effect on my hairloss! I know it might sound counter productive, but I really weighted all pro's & con's, checked the actual result from minox+dermarolling vs finasteride and decided it's not worth keeping it up with little and decreasing effectiveness. "decreasing effectiveness" doesn't mean that you get worse or that minoxidil stops working. It means that after 2 years you got what you got, you won't improve further. But minoxidil works its trick helping to to retain hairs. Anyway, all the researches agree that a multidirectional therapy (minoxidil+ finasteride + other stuff) is the best way to go, because hair loss is a multifactorial phenomenon thus different medications work in a synergic way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted February 16, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2020 8 hours ago, duchaine said: "decreasing effectiveness" doesn't mean that you get worse or that minoxidil stops working. It means that after 2 years you got what you got, you won't improve further. But minoxidil works its trick helping to to retain hairs. Anyway, all the researches agree that a multidirectional therapy (minoxidil+ finasteride + other stuff) is the best way to go, because hair loss is a multifactorial phenomenon thus different medications work in a synergic way. I completely agree with you! It's just something that I decided for myself. Maybe I will change my mind soon! 😁 1 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted February 16, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2020 8 hours ago, LonelyGraft said: Did u travel from the states? If so how are flight prices to Portugal? I traveled from London 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted February 16, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 2/14/2020 at 9:04 AM, Rolandas said: I think Dr. Bruno is not fully informed on microneedling. I think it's a good think too, but on another hand we dont know what it does for a scalp long term, so it's a fair comment. Dr. Ferreira advised to stop Minoxidil 2 days before surgery, but I did 10 days before. I also stopped any caffeinated drinks 4 days before and alcohol 7 days before. He also advised stop microneedling in beginning of January, so my last session was 31st of December. Scalp massages - stopped around 2-3 years ago That’s fair and reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member KM90 Posted February 16, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted February 16, 2020 Congrats on your surgery! Looking forward to follow your journey. Looks good so far. Hope you have a safe healing and growth! 1 First hair transplant: 5078 FUE Grafts with Dr. Koray Erdogan, ASMED clinic, January 2020 Link: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/56016-5078-grafts-fue-910th-jan-2020-asmed-dr-koray-erdogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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