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Dr. Kaan Pekiner FUE+BHT 3895 (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT) 28/12/2019

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Bro I hope it will turn out great! very interesting to see this progressing.

I have a question which might sound stupid, but how exactly is it possible to use beard hair for the head? I mean, there are different in nature - my beard grow slower than head hair, and also has different characteristics (I think?) I never understood how those beard hairs are mixed along with head hair in a natural way.

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@karatekid the only two reasons that will prevent someone from having beard grafts implanted on the scalp is if the beard has a different color than the hair or if the beard has a tendency to curl. Otherwise the studies show that beard grafts can be the perfect alternative for patients with limited scalp donor supply.  Because beard hair is thicker it’s recommend for patients that wish to add density to the crown or to hide FUT scars. It’s not recommend to implant beard hairs in the hairline because this area is usually comprised of thin single grafts and not thick beard grafts. 

Check these two FUE+BHT results from HLC (where Pekiner worked for 7 years):

https://www.fue-hlc.com/hair-transplant-before-after/fue-3000-grafts-2000-grafts-for-the-front-1000-grafts-for-the-crown-area/
 

https://www.fue-hlc.com/hair-transplant-before-after/3500-grafts-2000-grafts-from-donor-scalp-1500-grafts-from-beard/

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@Portugal25 Can  hair from the beard be used again as donor hair in the future if needed? This is because from the photo  where the patient has  had his beard hair used 12 months after surgery    it looks like  his beard hair is back to  normal with good growth  just as his beard would have looked  like before surgery? 

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@kmgrafix look at patient pictures 1 year after they had a regular FUE surgery and you will see that it’s also difficult to see any difference in their scalp donor area because the Doctors avoid overharvesting the scalp donor area.

Dr. Pekiner asked if I shaved everyday and wouldn’t mind overharvesting my beard. I said “go ahead” because I wanted more density in my crown and couldn’t care less about my beard.
I had 1888 grafts removed from my beard and today I can notice some gaps when I don’t shave for 2 days but even having had beard overharvesting not everyone can notice these gaps below my chin and jawline. 
I do believe I still have more beard grafts  for a future HT

The patients in those HLC pictures probably said they didn’t want overharvesting of the beard and therefore a smaller amount was extracted and you can’t easily tell the difference. 

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@Portugal25every 2nd or 3rd of my beard hair is grey/White and the other are Dark brown/Black as my hair. Some of My hair has also gone grey so you think I can use beard grafts. Are surgons willing to only look for the Black beardgrafts and go for them? 
Do you have any ide of lorenzo clinic has done / do many beard transplants?

im considering dr. Bruno amd I know he does beard grafts but not his experience doing it.

 

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@Jijypuru I know that Dr. Pekiner was carefully selecting the best grafts because I could feel him searching when he was extracting from my scalp and beard but I am not sure if it’s possible to select only brown beard grafts if you have more than one color hair in your beard. 

Dr. Bruno told my friend that he has years of experience with beard grafts and that he does BHT at Lorenzo’s clinic and his clinic. 

However, I believe that Dr. Pekiner has lot more experience with beard grafts than any other Doctor because he has been doing beard mega sessions on a regular basis since he was at HLC (HLC is also know for their great work with beard mega sessions). 

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@Portugal25 So would it be correct to say that beard hair around the chin and on the side of the face should not be used  if the patient decides not to shave after a HT because it can make the  beard growth look like it has lots of gaps?

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@kmgrafix the reason why the Doctors remove grafts from under the chin and jawline is because some people have sensitive skin and can get tiny white dots where the punch extracted their beard. If the beard was extracted from under the chin and jawline then nobody will be able to notice those tiny white dots but if these dots are in the face they will be noticeable. 

Several patients of Dr. Pekiner go back to a second surgery to have beard grafts removed from the face because they didn’t get white dots under the chin in the first surgery.

You can check below a image of patient of Dr. Pekiner that went back to do a second BHT surgery and had beard removed from his face.

I didn’t get white dots so I if I decide to have another hair transplant I can also take beard grafts from my face. 

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@guestY thanks for reminding me as it’s now been 1 month since my surgery.

My crown looks less dense than it did on my 12  day post-op pictures so I assume shedding as already started 😞 even though I didn’t notice hairs falling out 

My FUT scar made in 2008 by Dr. Rahal is not noticeable and the donor area from the scalp and beard seems to have recovered nicely. It’s a little itchy sometimes in the scalp but that’s to be expected.

I posted photos with strong overhead bathroom lighting and 1 photo of the crown in low light. 

Let me know what you guys think. 

 

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@Portugal25You have  good  thick beard growth in your chin and cheek area which would really beneficial for your next hair transplant. Though will your  beard hair grow less thick after your transplant after beard hair is taken from the cheek and chin area for a hair transplant? By less thick hair I mean that after you shave the chin and cheek area will look more smooth  like this  http://www.mensfashionmagazine.com/how-to-get-a-clean-shave as  opposed to someone who has a thick  beard where even after a close shave their beard area has a shadow like this  https://prince.org/msg/100/403978?pr 

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Thanks for sharing, I'm interested to see how this turns out, I have been thinking about using some BHT myself. The work looks great, and I really can't see any scarring in your beard at all, I usually grow my beard out a little bit. I'm wondering do you notice a difference in density in the beard?


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@kmgrafix the pictures I posted were taken 3hours after shaving and there has been no difference in the growth or thickness of my beard after my surgery.

@Melvin-Moderator if I don’t shave for 48h I can see very tiny gaps in the beard shadow but it’s hard to notice them and I think that if I let my beard grow out nobody will be able to see any gaps in the density of the beard hairs.

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@Portugal25- Can you share some recent photos? Also, on the scale from 1-10 (very painful) how would you rate the pain during the HT procedure? FTU VS FUE?

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@guestY I will be uploading my 2 month pictures very soon.

The pain during the procedure is pretty much the same for FUT or FUE because the only pain is from the anesthesia.

The difference is in the recovery because FUT has a much more painful recovery while FUE was a breeze.

I could have never went back to work after 11 days of my FUT surgery but 11 days after FUE and I was almost perfect. 

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Dear HRN members, two days ago I hit the 2 month mark a.k.a “Ugly Duckling Phase”.

There has been some shedding but it seems that several grafts didn’t shed and kept on growing.

I can see some black dots that seem to be new hair growth so I expect things to be better next mont. 


This is how things are looking as of today. 


Looking forward to your comments.

 

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Very interesting case, there is slight improvement already.. looking forward for the final outcome 

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I may not be the first person to note this but it really doesn’t look like you’ve shed very much. Seems as though most of those hairs just kept on growing! It looks really good for being so early in the process!! I’m really excited for you, man! I can’t wait to see how this comes together.

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Hi everyone,

So I just hit the 3 month mark 😀

It looks like more growth and future hairs seem to be lurking out so I’m hoping things to get better next month.

Still taking saw palmetto, biotin and applying Minoxidil every night.

Looking forward to your comments.

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@PlzRespond foam is not available in Portugal so I just use regular 5% Minoxidil spray every night. 

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