Moderators Al - Moderator Posted December 14, 2019 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2019 I've had several beard donor sessions. So far I've gotten well over 2300 grafts from my beard and it looks like I can still get another good session. The beard area under the chin heals very well and very quickly and in some men can produce a large amount of good grafts. You will most likely get much less multi hair grafts than you get from your scalp. I really do think this area should be used in conjunction with scalp hair in a lot of hair transplants rather than saving it as a last resort. 1 Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member paddyirishman Posted December 17, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted December 17, 2019 @BeHappy I agree with you in what you say about using beard grafts before they come as a last resort. In that case your scalp doner is limited and most of the transplanted hair will come from the beard . Its much better to have the beard hair mixed in well with scalp hair to give a more natural appearance, as opposed to clumped together in the 1 area. I was told by Dr.Pradeep I have 3000 grafts in my beard if I wish to use. How many grafts were you told you had ? .........Paddy........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 10:22 PM, BeHappy said: I've had several beard donor sessions. So far I've gotten well over 2300 grafts from my beard and it looks like I can still get another good session. The beard area under the chin heals very well and very quickly and in some men can produce a large amount of good grafts. You will most likely get much less multi hair grafts than you get from your scalp. I really do think this area should be used in conjunction with scalp hair in a lot of hair transplants rather than saving it as a last resort. Do you have pics of your beard skin after over 2k grafts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ndubya Posted December 17, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted December 17, 2019 On 12/14/2019 at 12:22 AM, BeHappy said: I've had several beard donor sessions. So far I've gotten well over 2300 grafts from my beard and it looks like I can still get another good session. The beard area under the chin heals very well and very quickly and in some men can produce a large amount of good grafts. You will most likely get much less multi hair grafts than you get from your scalp. I really do think this area should be used in conjunction with scalp hair in a lot of hair transplants rather than saving it as a last resort. Agreed. I think they are better used in midscalp pointed straight forward. They don't seem to look right in a crown whirl. Scattered thru out the midscalp seems to be best. I would rather have them on top of my head than under my chin. I believe mine are a little thicker than scalp hairs, mostly 1's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ndubya Posted December 17, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 hours ago, paddyirishman said: @BeHappy I agree with you in what you say about using beard grafts before they come as a last resort. In that case your scalp doner is limited and most of the transplanted hair will come from the beard . Its much better to have the beard hair mixed in well with scalp hair to give a more natural appearance, as opposed to clumped together in the 1 area. I was told by Dr.Pradeep I have 3000 grafts in my beard if I wish to use. How many grafts were you told you had ? .........Paddy........ Yessir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted December 17, 2019 Moderators Share Posted December 17, 2019 10 hours ago, paddyirishman said: How many grafts were you told you had ? I recently had another 635 beard grafts done and I'm up to about 2378 total beard grafts used so far. I'm pretty sure I still have at least a few hundred more and I'll be trying that next year. I've been using chest hair too at the same time, so I'm up to just over 4600 body grafts used in total counting both beard and chest. At the beginning the Dr didn't think he would get anywhere near how many we did so far from my beard, but when I went for the initial consultation my beard area was shaved and the hair there had a lot of gray hairs mixed in and those are hard to see unless I let them grow a bit, so it looked like I only had a bunch of scattered dark hairs rather than as much as I actually had. Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted December 17, 2019 Moderators Share Posted December 17, 2019 8 hours ago, ndubya said: I would rather have them on top of my head than under my chin. Exactly. That's what I keep telling people. Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted December 17, 2019 Moderators Share Posted December 17, 2019 11 hours ago, LonelyGraft said: Do you have pics of your beard skin after over 2k grafts? This picture was taken just before going to the clinic on the morning of the last procedure and after dyeing my beard hair, so the hairs are dark and easily seen. This is after 1743 grafts have already been taken from this area, yet it still looks nearly untouched a year after the last procedure. 1 Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 6 hours ago, BeHappy said: This picture was taken just before going to the clinic on the morning of the last procedure and after dyeing my beard hair, so the hairs are dark and easily seen. This is after 1743 grafts have already been taken from this area, yet it still looks nearly untouched a year after the last procedure. Wow that’s fantastic. Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member lovinitl9 Posted December 17, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted December 17, 2019 Could you also possibly show the growth from those beard grafts? much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member paddyirishman Posted December 30, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2019 Picture taken 3 weeks after 596 beard grafts. Nobody made any comment at any stage. Has anybody else any pictures to show of the healing of area after beard grafts extracted ? .........Paddy........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member lovinitl9 Posted December 30, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted December 30, 2019 I dont see any issue with the scarring coming from the beard as I dont seenit is very likely. however, what hVe people’s growth response been? whT percentage would say you grew, and the different growth cycles of beard hair affect it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member paddyirishman Posted December 30, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2019 @lovinitl9 all great questions. I noticed my beard hair is thicker and stronger than my scalp doner which is not a surprise. I am shortly after my own HT. Beard hair growth cycle is slower than scalp hair, and blends in very well after a time with scalp hair. .......Paddy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member lovinitl9 Posted December 30, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted December 30, 2019 thanks paddy. how long would you say it took for the beard hairs grow and also would u say that thickness of a beard hir would equal a 2hair scalp graft. I’m pretty much depleted of donor scalp and wondering if the bear could be used to fill in the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member paddyirishman Posted December 30, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2019 @lovinitl9 yes I would say 1 beard graft would be as good as 2 scalp hairs, certainly 1.5 scalp hairs. Yes beard hair is excellent , its mixed in the mid scalp back into the crown. Its a huge asset to have for low doner of scalp and high norwoods. I would definitely explore the option, as thousands have recieved great results this way. ........Paddy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member paddyirishman Posted December 31, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2019 Aloe Vera Gel is fantastic for healing and for soothing the area after extractions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sean Posted January 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted January 1, 2020 Will be interesting to see this. Beard grafts in my case shocked my crown and harmed the area more, but it was with a different surgeon. It will be great to see how this yields. The yield for me was very poor and it shocked existing hairs which made the area look worse. I think beard hairs may be more beneficial to strip scars or scars, but to fully cover crown or in between native hairs may not be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member lovinitl9 Posted January 1, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted January 1, 2020 I’m with you sean. I dont think beard causes noticable scarring, but curious about the yield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member paddyirishman Posted January 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted January 1, 2020 Hello Sean Im sorry to hear of your negative experience. When put in the right hands of skillef surgeons beard hair can and has worked very well. There are lots of high norwoods out there that had a limited amount of scalp doner and discovered that their beard grafts were their saving grace. Nothing is 100% guaranteed in Hair Restoration , one can only give themselves a great chance if they go to the best surgeon. ......paddy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member lovinitl9 Posted January 1, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted January 1, 2020 totally agree paddy. did your beard grow out or are you waiting to see the results from a surgery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member paddyirishman Posted January 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted January 1, 2020 @lovinitl9 Im waiting to see the results in 2 months or so. I will show pictures. Are you considering beard grafts from your doner ? .......Paddy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member lovinitl9 Posted January 1, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted January 1, 2020 oh ok. ya I will use all of my beard hair as donor if possible. I was just looking to see if anyone has results from using them, everything I have had is anecdotal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious Posted January 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted January 1, 2020 Sean, Let's see pics of your crown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted January 2, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Dr. Kaan Pekiner took 1888 grafts from my beard to add density to the crown and midscalp where he placed 2000 grafts from my head. After 5 days my beard donor area was great. Not sure if I have more donor area in my beard but it would be great if I did as I only manage to get 30cm2 density from this surgery to my 140cm2 recipient area. If it wasn’t for my beard I would have just had 2007 grafts instead of 3895 implanted into a massive area. Edited January 2, 2020 by Portugal25 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member paddyirishman Posted January 2, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted January 2, 2020 @Portugal25 the surgery is very clean. You probably have another 2500 grafts from the beard. What size punch was used for your beard ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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