Regular Member soontransplanted Posted October 20, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) Hi all i had a HT just over a month ago from a clinic officially recommended by this website. I had approx 3900 grafts over the space of two days. Their results looks consistently good on this forum. At this point I will not be posting the clinic name, this is my choice, as they’ve been very good to me and I want to give it time to know for sure if this has been botched I will maybe post a genuine review some months down the line Let me start by saying the hairline is looking great; I’m in the ugly duckling phase but, hey, that is normal and I’m not concerned. My donor zone; however; is causing me immense stress. Yes, of course I am in contact with the clinic, but it gets to a point that I have decided I need unbiased opinions and support. I have been reluctant to post here until now. Please do your best to be honest but not make me feel more anxious or worse than I already am. Would appreciate it. Attached are pics of the extraction zones day of and day after surgery. Then I have attached pics of what looks like an overharvested OR shock loss donor zone taken recently and within the last couple of weeks. Any opinions would be welcome. Thank you to any brothers in this community who take the time to reply. Hey all Edited October 20, 2019 by soontransplanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted October 20, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted October 20, 2019 Please show some proper before pics (before shaving). Also, I do not understand that part of the day0 pics show completely shaven donor and some other show partly shaven donor. 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Fozzie Posted October 20, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted October 20, 2019 There does appear to be some shock loss going imo. You are still very early in the journey tbh and at this point I'd suggest you try not to worry too much. Come across a number of cases where the donor areas 1-3 months post op don't look so great but after a couple of months things generally improve. Agree with Gasthoerer it would be good to see before pictures of your donor. What did the clinic say with regards to your donor hair? Also do you know what sized punch was used? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member soontransplanted Posted October 20, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) Hey botH, thanks for the replies The donor was fully shaven again and pics were retaken after, I just uploaded both. 0.95mm and 1mm punches used. Pics attached of donor befor Edited October 20, 2019 by soontransplanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted October 21, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted October 21, 2019 Hi From looking at your photos, in my honest opinion the extraction zone could have been better spread out...but it looks fine, and you’ve suffered some shock loss but it looks to be recovering well in the more recent photos, I wouldn’t be too concerned with it, it just needs more time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted October 21, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted October 21, 2019 yes, even in my opinion you have suffered a shock loss that is coming back, let's say from someone who intends to over haversting , I have suffered unfortunately 3 years ago from a pseudo-clinic in Turkey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leath123 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Hi im currently just shy of 3 months into my procedure and I had a very similar looking donor area at that stage.. I was very worried about mine and suffered from shock loss.. 3 months in however it is really starting to recover well now.. everything will turn out ok mate 👍👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 21, 2019 Administrators Share Posted October 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, Leath123 said: Hi im currently just shy of 3 months into my procedure and I had a very similar looking donor area at that stage.. I was very worried about mine and suffered from shock loss.. 3 months in however it is really starting to recover well now.. everything will turn out ok mate 👍👍 Great post do you mind sharing some pictures? I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Michael Vories, MD Posted October 22, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted October 22, 2019 Larger punches such as 0.95 mm and 1.0 mm are more likely to cause temporary shock loss. 2 Dr. Mike Vories is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted October 22, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted October 22, 2019 I agree...the larger punches along with the high number of extractions will induce a fair amount of trauma to the scalp. And shock loss typically sets in from 2-4 weeks post-op and I also concur that there is some going on. And like others have said, the area will undoubtedly look much better in several months. We would be happy to give you more feedback with your updated photos in 3 months? 1 Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member soontransplanted Posted October 23, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 23, 2019 Thanks everybody for taking the time to reply. I feel reassured. I will post an update in a couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 23, 2019 Administrators Share Posted October 23, 2019 I have written an article on how to deal with this shock loss https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/how-to-deal-with-donor-shock-loss-after-hair-transplant/3401 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted October 25, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted October 25, 2019 Very helpful! 1 Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member soontransplanted Posted November 6, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 6, 2019 Update of my donor area below. I did shave my head a few days ago again. My HT was 7 weeks and 3 days ago I will stay patient and still hope this is temporary in the donor zone, but I am losing a bit of hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Michael Vories, MD Posted November 6, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted November 6, 2019 I understand your concern, but keep in mind that temporary shock loss is going through the same hair cycling as the transplanted hair. This means that when your transplanted hair begins to grow is when the donor area shocked out hair begins to grow in. 1 Dr. Mike Vories is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted November 6, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2019 Even for me it is still too early to fear that it was a disaster, you have to wait and be as quiet as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted November 6, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Michael Vories, MD said: I understand your concern, but keep in mind that temporary shock loss is going through the same hair cycling as the transplanted hair. This means that when your transplanted hair begins to grow is when the donor area shocked out hair begins to grow in. Exactly 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted November 6, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2019 Honestly, I do not like the extraction pattern. It shows no feathering at the sides of the extraction zone. Actually, the boundary zones show some extractions directly next to each other. BUT: I still second the opinion that it will improve and in the end, you will much better. Nevertheless, there seems to be some minor areas which small infections. You should show this to a medical doctor (if there is no support from your clinic). 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member soontransplanted Posted November 6, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Gasthoerer said: Honestly, I do not like the extraction pattern. It shows no feathering at the sides of the extraction zone. Actually, the boundary zones show some extractions directly next to each other. BUT: I still second the opinion that it will improve and in the end, you will much better. Nevertheless, there seems to be some minor areas which small infections. You should show this to a medical doctor (if there is no support from your clinic). Truth is I see that too, I agree. Just gotta hope in a few months it’s not a big deal. Re. The acne - this is already clearing up. I think it’s just a little bit of acne triggered from the surgery and I aggravated it more by touching. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted November 7, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 7, 2019 You need to stop shaving, it only makes the shock loss look worse. Honestly, you need to just let it grow. Shaving your hair when it already looks bad, is like putting glitter on a pimple. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sean Posted November 7, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted November 7, 2019 If im being honest, There is no gaurantee if the halo will remain or not by month 12. I got a very similar pattern and it was due to extraction pattern. Mine never fully repaired and i got this bullshit rectangular halo cut out continuing years later. You will know for sure by month 8-9 of where this is headed. I really am frustrated but hoping there is a way out this mess. i wish you the best, but youll have to wait till 8-9 month to guage healing and regrowth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted November 8, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted November 8, 2019 I already notice an improvement...and it will continue to improve IMHO. Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member soontransplanted Posted November 29, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) It’s been 11 weeks since my HT, so approx 2 and a half months. Below are photos of my scary looking donor area taken today. The clinic was Eugenix in Delhi. Extractions were not done by Dr Sethi or Dr Bansal, but by a supporting doctor. I was told before surgery some beard follicles would be taken but the supporting doctor must have decided not to do that mid surgery, so all grafts taken from my scalp. Dr sethi did the hairline and temples and that I’m happy with, but how can I be pleased with my overall results when my donor looks like this? I’m 26 and this was supposed boost my self image, not make it worse Everytime I look at the photos of the extraction patterns taken on the day of surgery my anxiety goes through the roof. I don’t know what to do. How long can I wait and pretend everything will get better? I’m not convinced at all at this point What should I do guys Edited November 29, 2019 by soontransplanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted November 29, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2019 It's improving, but you still have some time for things to continue to improve. At this point, theres nothing you can do but wait. I would say a minimum of 6 months, before shock loss would return and subside. At that time, If things do not improve, I will send Dr. Sethi and Bansal an email for their public response on this issue. At the moment, all you can do is wait, and grow the hair out a bit. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Szotz_257 Posted November 29, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted November 29, 2019 What tools did they use to extract your grafts? Was it manual or motorized punch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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