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Dr Rafael De Freitas - 2660 Grafts

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Hello,

I wanted to tell you a little about my experience with Dr Freitas In Valencia, Spain, i was meant to have surgery in August next year but fortunately there was a cancellation a month ago and i jumped at the chance, the waiting list i have been told is nearing two years. I was a little nervous as i had not had a HT before but i was made to feel very welcome and relaxed by the staff, Dr Freitas was very friendly, in particular Miss Viviana, who helped enormously - i am 3 days currently post operation. 

I have been losing hair since i was 19 (now 32) at a slow rate, not as a aggressive as most, but still constantly losing it, sadly i have had many stresses and other surgeries in my life which impacted my health and led to further hairloss, i was a NW2 going towards NW3 over the next few years, mainly losing in my temples and hairline, one side was worse than the other, the crown has no hairloss. I had gone on propecia, minoxidil and Nizoral to hault the hairloss in the last year. 

We wanted to go for a natural hairline, at first we lowered it too much and we both agreed it doesn't look natural, alot of patients i think want their hairline lower than they probably should, but we both agreed that the one shown below was probably best and i was very happy with it after surgery. 

When his assistant technical began extracting the donor hair, she said i had excellent donar hair and it makes an enormous difference in outcome, she said it was one of the best she has seen this year, i knew my hair was naturally very thick and Dr Freitas said that i have the opposite problem to alot of people, i have alot of 3 and 4 hair grafts and not many 1 or 2's. One of the reasons why i did choose Dr Freitas is that spanish people naturally have thicker darker hair and i thought my hair would be ideal, considering his experience.  

I arrived at 8.30 am and didnt leave until 8.30pm, my body always struggles during surgery so i was relieved when it was over. Both Dr Freitas and the technician thought i would get a good result, so i am very excited. 

Grafts: 1 - 613

             2 - 943

             3 - 1057

             4 - 27

 

I know some people will say - "you didnt need to do it etc etc" - but i wanted to do something that was going to make me happy as it had been an issue of mine and stress going back years, though i do understand why people would say - " you should have waited" - but i want to keep it positive. Im not an expert in knowledge but i will try to answer as many questions as below as possible. 

Photos below are 3 days post op. 

 

 

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Almost 2700 grafts in that relatively small area? This is going to be insane. How many cm was your recipient? Do you know what density he implanted at?

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Great intro, thank you so much. How long did you stay in Spain? Was it at a hotel nearby? Did you go back to the clinic for washing?

Also any pictures of donor post surgery?

 

Wish you the best buddy, this is gonna be a homerun! :)

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10 hours ago, jj51702 said:

Almost 2700 grafts in that relatively small area? This is going to be insane. How many cm was your recipient? Do you know what density he implanted at?

I think the extraction of donar was 2030 from this below. Implamentation was 2600.

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6 hours ago, BjornBorg said:

Great intro, thank you so much. How long did you stay in Spain? Was it at a hotel nearby? Did you go back to the clinic for washing?

Also any pictures of donor post surgery?

 

Wish you the best buddy, this is gonna be a homerun! :)

I only got this one picture i think, i didnt have anyone with me and i was a bit out of it. I stayed in spain for 2 days, day before surgery and day of surgery and went home the next day. I did not go back for washing, the first wash i did the evening of surgery and it was agony. Since the first day it has been much easier and less painful, everything is turning to scabs right now and the swelling on my eyes and face is going down thankfully

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Adam87 said:

I think the extraction of donar was 2030 from this below. Implamentation was 2600.

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I don’t understand this statement. They extracted 2030 grafts but implanted 2660? Did they split the multiple grafts?

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10 hours ago, jj51702 said:

I don’t understand this statement. They extracted 2030 grafts but implanted 2660? Did they split the multiple grafts?

Also interested in this. But I think your guess is correct. Must be to get those 1's for the front.

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Donor looking good from that pic. Took the grafts well apart which will leave you with the option to go short if everything heals well.

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Wow that is dense packing. Please keep us updated, deFreitas has quite a reputation for excellence.

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Day 11 post operation

-scabs 80% gone

-still some redness underneath

Hairline looks great even under intense light. 

 

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Might need to zoom in for best effect

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You healed very fast. On track for a great result.

Btw do you have a picture of what your hair looked like when you had a haircut? Or did you always trim it down the last few years?

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1 hour ago, BjornBorg said:

You healed very fast. On track for a great result.

Btw do you have a picture of what your hair looked like when you had a haircut? Or did you always trim it down the last few years?

My hair has always been long, it hasnt been this short in a decade...haha...so it was very strange when they shaved everything off, it was quite long, near shoulder length when they cut it, all i have is this picture, which gives you an indication. Both are wet hair 

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Looks like you have mighty thick hair. I can see why you wanted to fix the hairline, although a lot of people would kill for your hair including the hairline.

I also used to keep my hair in a tight ponytail over the last decade. From age 21 to 31 give or take. I've learned on this forum that it might've caused some damage to the hairline, so called traction alopecia. Big mistake, but what's done is done.

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3 hours ago, BjornBorg said:

Looks like you have mighty thick hair. I can see why you wanted to fix the hairline, although a lot of people would kill for your hair including the hairline.

I also used to keep my hair in a tight ponytail over the last decade. From age 21 to 31 give or take. I've learned on this forum that it might've caused some damage to the hairline, so called traction alopecia. Big mistake, but what's done is done.

I am very lucky that i have the hair that i have, thats one of the reason why i got an HT, Dr Freitas explained to me that the differences of results due to quality of hair is enormous, the technician who extracted from the donar also made the comment that i had the opposite problem to everyone else in terms of 3/4 hair graft numbers - i had loads, and not many single hair grafts, which they found funny. She its quite rare. I will go through the shedding phase i think in 1-2 weeks time, the start of it at least and hopefully in the next 6-9 months i will have some great results. I will probably update every months, i think for now i i will keep my hair short, like david silva haha, its easier to use the minoxidil as well. If Dr Freitas has taken you on, then he must be believe he can get a good result with you, so i would be positive. 

Your right about the ponytail, i like my hair tied back as well, but the loss of the hairline and temples made my hairloss stand out so i didnt do it anymore. But its not good for the hair.

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Yeah, the David Silva tactic was a strange one. He didn't start to grow it out until after a year. Never seen that tactic before. He had a dream result though.

 

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I dont mind it, i think it depends on my shedding. but i dont mind keeping it short for a few months, until the hairs start coming through. I have to assume he went to one of the top surgeons in spain. Could have been freitas actually because silva is from valencia i think. 

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On 7/22/2019 at 8:39 AM, Adam87 said:

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Do you know if Freitas separates 1s and fine 1s? the very front of that hairline is astoundingly beautiful, like I've only seen a few docs capable of that. That is if its not native hair.

Stunning work

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On 7/25/2019 at 4:16 AM, transplantedphil said:

 

Do you know if Freitas separates 1s and fine 1s? the very front of that hairline is astoundingly beautiful, like I've only seen a few docs capable of that. That is if its not native hair.

Stunning work

Thanks for the feedback and the compliment, i will send a message to the person tomorrow. I am also curious of this. 

Does anyone know if i can use topic in my hair yet, im not sure if i can? -

 

The new transplant hairs are not as thick as my normal hair yet - does this process happen over time? When the transplant hair falls out and grows back, there is not a huge difference, but noticeable if you look closely....

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On 7/27/2019 at 4:18 AM, Adam87 said:

 

Does anyone know if i can use topic in my hair yet, im not sure if i can?

I found this post in another thread:

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On 6/17/2019 at 7:31 PM, Scott Medikemos said:

As discussed, Dr. Lupanzula feels that these types of products can clog pores and have the potential to stunt full regrowth which is why we do not recommend the use of any types of concealer in the recipient area.

I think there is no concensus on this. But better safe than sorry.

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Thanks @BjornBorg much appreciated. Heading into the "ugly duckling" phase now. Alot of hair have already fallen out. Look foward to 2 months time. 

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Could i ask people if i am thinning or if ita just the light. I really think i am but i havent had my hair this short in years. I have just staryed using fin minoxidil nizoral and something called oh flut to help this. Just wanted peoples opinion.20190801_142901.thumb.jpg.cc93ac888eb1fe63525e609fcf294f4f.jpg

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It's possible, but from what you said that could already have started before you got on any treatments at all. Tough to say, although the light definitely isn't flattering. The frontal area right behind your recipient, for example, looks thinner in the second image from the bottom than it does in the last picture. Best recommendation I'd have here is to periodically check in with a hair specialist and have them do regular evaluations and comparisons to track any progression.

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