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2338 Grafts With Konior: Hairline Restoration (FUT)


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I appreciate all the comments! And I don’t mind the critiques.  There are certainly times I feel like I wish I had more density, but overall I’d say I’m content. I did go out of my way to make it

3 Month Update Hairline is slowly starting to form. Pretty sparse in the middle, but it's still very early so I figure things will thicken up significantly over the next few months. Watching the

It’s hard to say but I find that every now and then I’ll look in the mirror and think “damn, it’s gotten a little thicker”. There are lots of individual hairs that are still limp and wirey, and as the

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1 Year and 1 Month

Typed up a post but it got deleted somehow...anyway latest pics are below! I've included some of the scar this time, as well as some deliberately unflattering photos taken under bright bathroom light.

Overall I'm pretty happy with the result -- I'll probably end up asking Dr. K to do another pass in the front whenever I go back to address the crown, but hopefully that will not be for several years.

As always, feel free to PM or comment with any questions. This community has been a great resource for me throughout this strange but enjoyable experience.

 

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Thanks for showing the unflattering pictures as well. How do you style it to make those areas less see-through during normal daytime lighting?

Also, can you comment on the temple corners (including the sides) and how they integrate with your existing hair?

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47 minutes ago, giegnosiganoe said:

Thanks for showing the unflattering pictures as well. How do you style it to make those areas less see-through during normal daytime lighting?

Also, can you comment on the temple corners (including the sides) and how they integrate with your existing hair?

I generally style it back, sometimes with Hanz De Fuko quicksand, which helps to thicken it up a bit. Styling it more to the side also makes it less see-through, but it's not as good of a hairstyle overall. I would say it actually looks better in normal daytime lighting than in those pictures, since even on a sunny day the light isn't as direct and close to my hair. I'm going to try sprinkling a little Toppik to see if that will make it bulletproof.

I'm happy with the temple corners and think they integrate pretty seamlessly. There are no weird hair angles.

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Awesome result and great write up. The yield also looks great - every single one of those grafts was used to its full potential. Post-transplant, how do you like how it looks when you let your hair down similar to one of the pics in your OP?

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On 6/3/2020 at 9:23 PM, ADuckwithNoHair said:

Awesome result and great write up. The yield also looks great - every single one of those grafts was used to its full potential. Post-transplant, how do you like how it looks when you let your hair down similar to one of the pics in your OP?

It looks good! But pretty similar to how it looked before, which really just speaks to the effectiveness of the side comb over more than anything else haha.

Getting my first short haircut since Covid next week and will post some new pics soon

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On 6/20/2020 at 3:36 PM, RecessionProof said:

It looks good! But pretty similar to how it looked before, which really just speaks to the effectiveness of the side comb over more than anything else haha.

Getting my first short haircut since Covid next week and will post some new pics soon

Keen to see how that haircut turned out!

Also, curious to know how much you were quoted in terms of cost per graft. I was recently quoted $12 FUE or $10 FUT, which seems unusually high compared to quotes I’ve received from similarly reputable surgeons like Hasson & Wong, or pricing for Konior I’ve seen elsewhere on this site.

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Amazing results mate!

I just got FUT myself this week and it's great to see such positive results. Very reassuring!

Have you tried cutting the back down to a #3 yet? My doctor says #4 is the lowest I'll be able to go but I've got seriously thick donor hair so who knows?

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1 hour ago, whattheFUE said:

The hairline looks spotty and not filled in considering the amount of grafts used. Konior is usually the opposite.

Am I the only one seeing this?

I have to disagree - the amount of real estate covered with what is most certainly on the extreme lower end of grafts used for a space this size, the results are very good. 
 

Sure it could be more dense, but I’m willing to bet that there was a very high graft survival % on this particular case, and if OP shares any of your concerns, a second pass with the same doctor of probably <500 grafts  would take this to perfection. 

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4 hours ago, whattheFUE said:

The hairline looks spotty and not filled in considering the amount of grafts used. Konior is usually the opposite.

Am I the only one seeing this?

I agree with you. I think they should have aimed for a better density on the first 1 cm of the hairline and they gradually decrease density while going towards the mid. But as @Curious25said they covered a big area with few grafts and it seems the yield rate has been pretty good.

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3 hours ago, Curious25 said:

I have to disagree - the amount of real estate covered with what is most certainly on the extreme lower end of grafts used for a space this size, the results are very good. 
 

Sure it could be more dense, but I’m willing to bet that there was a very high graft survival % on this particular case, and if OP shares any of your concerns, a second pass with the same doctor of probably <500 grafts  would take this to perfection. 

I see what you're talking about, but the first pass of a completely new hairline--which this is--usually doesn't have super strong density.  I went through the same process and it was only the second pass that truly beefed up the density.  This was a lot of real estate covered, plus dark hair on fair skin, so you're bound to see scalp between hairs.  

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5 hours ago, win200 said:

I see what you're talking about, but the first pass of a completely new hairline--which this is--usually doesn't have super strong density.  I went through the same process and it was only the second pass that truly beefed up the density.  This was a lot of real estate covered, plus dark hair on fair skin, so you're bound to see scalp between hairs.  

 

Comparing his 1 year out to his post op:

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It's extremely hard to give a "percentage survival" but I think something happened. Especially considering this was FUT so you had plenty of connective tissue and much less trauma when they were harvesting.

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4 hours ago, whattheFUE said:

It's extremely hard to give a "percentage survival" but I think something happened. Especially considering this was FUT so you had plenty of connective tissue and much less trauma when they were harvesting.

Did you even read the thread?

From the outset it was explained that this is a conserative HT.  He has very fine hair according to the doctor, and about another 4000 grafts left after this.  Only about 1/4 of his scalp was covered so the rest must be reserved for the middle and crown.

Not everyone has super thick spanish high density donor hair and cannot expect similar results.

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Just now, Clark.Ethan said:

You need a second HT to make your hairline more natural and dense. 

Result is good but definitelly you need a second one.

Agreed.  It's a good result that tees him up for a fantastic one after a second pass.  The very best transplant work is almost always the result of more than one procedure; just nearly impossible to achieve truly amazing density in one surgery.

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@whattheFUE I think it is an excellent result and it looks completely natural. Nobody including the veteran members on this forum would ever think he wasn’t born with that hairline if they saw him on the street. I agree with @win200as well it’s not possible to drop your hairline that much and get perfect density in 1 procedure especially with his skin/hair contrast. Some doctors will compensate by putting large multi grafts in and around the hairline but elite doctors will always place soft naturalness in hairlines above unnatural looking density. 

Also let’s point out the fact that the OP is taking very honest photographs in harsh lighting with a good quality camera to show the details. Even someone without hair loss at all will look a little thin.

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22 hours ago, whattheFUE said:

It's extremely hard to give a "percentage survival" but I think something happened. 

Indeed, something did happen.  A enviable result happened.  Anyone achieve perfection on their first HT please raise your hand. 

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Personally I think this is a homerun result. Obviously, we all want more density but the hairline looks exceptionally natural and in my opinion, you should be very pleased with your results. If you want more density, you could always go in for a second pass.  As for the graft survival rate, I don’t think anybody could really say for sure by looking at pictures however, I would personally be very happy with this result and if you want more density, that can always be achieved.

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Bill

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I appreciate all the comments! And I don’t mind the critiques. 

There are certainly times I feel like I wish I had more density, but overall I’d say I’m content. I did go out of my way to make it look as bad as possible in those last few pics, as others have said. I don’t think any ordinary person would look at my hairline as anything unusual — in fact, a first date recently told me that I have really good hair which is always nice to hear after a HT

I seriously doubt graft survival was an issue. Dr. K had said we’d have a density of around ~40 grafts per cm^2 and I almost felt like pushing him to go for 50, but ultimately my request was to simply go as dense as he felt was ethically possible. With my fine hair caliber and scalp contrast, the result looks about right imo.

I’ll try and post a few additional pics soon. I’m not in a rush to go through the HT process again, but if I decide to do another pass in a few years I’ll definitely ask him to bulk up the hairline some more.

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2 minutes ago, RecessionProof said:

I appreciate all the comments! And I don’t mind the critiques. 

There are certainly times I feel like I wish I had more density, but overall I’d say I’m content. I did go out of my way to make it look as bad as possible in those last few pics, as others have said. I don’t think any ordinary person would look at my hairline as anything unusual — in fact, a first date recently told me that I have really good hair which is always nice to hear after a HT

I seriously doubt graft survival was an issue. Dr. K had said we’d have a density of around ~40 grafts per cm^2 and I almost felt like pushing him to go for 50, but ultimately my request was to simply go as dense as he felt was ethically possible. With my fine hair caliber and scalp contrast, the result looks about right imo.

I’ll try and post a few additional pics soon. I’m not in a rush to go through the HT process again, but if I decide to do another pass in a few years I’ll definitely ask him to bulk up the hairline some more.

Good approach.  Much better to not push the density, get a strong result that you can build on, and then go back to solidify the density.  I spent six years getting my hair to where I wanted it, but I'm very glad I played the long game and didn't expect my dream outcome after a single procedure.

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