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3 hours ago, HLPToronto said:

Thanks for your continued support and guidance 

I have dandruff issue on scalp since childhood, it also helps clear that , 

More over i think its killing 2 birds with one stone - whenever we massage minoxi, then coconut oil, then rice water, then baby shampoo.... a few times a day, we end up massaging our scalp.

Whether these liquids do anything or not lol that's a mystery but i think running fingers for each of those 10 min sessions, helps circulating scalp skin for blood flow quite a few times a day each day over and over again, i think that helps more than oil, minoxidil as that is the by product of this entire process but an effective one :)

I've read a ebook from Rob English about dutamesce massage (vigorous scalp massage) and done it myself for 6 months straight. It stopped my hair loss and I think that's the reason I still have much much more hair on my scalp than my brother had in my age as well as father. They're NW 6 and 7. I'm diffuse pattern 5 (still have hairs on my vertex).

The problem with that is you need to do it for 20 min morning and evening every day. Its painfull on arms as you need to really push it with all strength you have. Takes a lot of effort to keep doing it, so I quit as I had many changes in my life at once. Never started doing that again.

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3 hours ago, HLPToronto said:

So we are taking a combination of both in one pill. I think we should continue taking 2in1 pill then. 

I hate too many tablets a day, if combo is available why to buy both separately  ?   

thanks Lennney 

Price. Price is only reason to buy separately. I did the math earlier for individual pills, but if you could do math on how much it costs to purchase tinfal or a different combination pill I would appreciate it. I am already comfortable taking several pills (tinfal, fin, 2x [day] fenugreek, 2x ginseng, 2x tribulus), so another pill won't be a deal breaker for me. I bought a pill organizer on Amazon for a dollar or something (20 day shipping) and I make sure I get the single dose done for my pills as well as all the important-for-hair pills (fin, tinfal). It also ensures I don't double dose on accident.

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1 hour ago, Rolandas said:

I've read a ebook from Rob English about dutamesce massage (vigorous scalp massage) and done it myself for 6 months straight. It stopped my hair loss

thanks for the info, i will research on this . 

were you using any oils like castor , coconut or olive oil  or simply massaging with bare hands 

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1 hour ago, Lennney said:

, 2x [day] fenugreek, 2x ginseng, 2x tribulus), so another pill won't be a deal breaker for me. I bought a pill organizer on Amazon for a dollar or something

now  I am intrigued :) what are these secret tablets for ? never heard of tribulus... 

I need that pill organizer too , will buy 

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21 minutes ago, HLPToronto said:

now  I am intrigued :) what are these secret tablets for ? never heard of tribulus... 

I need that pill organizer too , will buy 

Use Amazon's (or whoever, wish or that geek site we talked about) sort by price feature. I refuse to pay more than $3 for a piece of plastic! Haha!

But tribulus is linked to prostate health and it's thrown into all those testosterone "boosters" supplements as well as libido boosters. None of those you buy online are doing much to increase testosterone (you'd have to look elsewhere), but they all have fenugreek and tribulus. I used both (and obviously currently) in past when I experienced some ED issues. It was much before fin, it was all mental. I didn't feel anything for a while, but after taking 2g a day tribulus and 1.2g fenugreek for 2-3 months I felt much better libido-wise. I take it as a precaution. I have a buddy who is always telling me about how fin reduced his "energy", so I just make it part of my routine. I already take fin and tinfal, so why not just down a couple more pills at the same time, especially when I have them all ready to go in a pill organizer?

 

I'm really big on finding active ingredients and using those. I've had a former classmate start a supplement company. All supplement companies do is repackage vitamin mixes for additional 300% markup. If you've noticed, buying fenugreek and tribulus is cheap as hell, but costs like $30+ for a 30 day supply with nugenix or whoever. They kill you with the convenience fee.

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2 hours ago, HLPToronto said:

thanks for the info, i will research on this . 

were you using any oils like castor , coconut or olive oil  or simply massaging with bare hands 

Don't remember his opinion on oils + massage, but in general he recommends just pure hand massage for 6 minute each excercise (pinching, pressing & stretching) and separate it in 3 segments. 1st massage - hairline, 2nd massage - vertex and 3rd massage - sides back and nape.

This guy is actually selling his ebook. Not for free. I'm not sure how does it look now, but few years back I bought it for $50. Can't say I wasted my money. Actually I do believe his ideas. The main things for hair loss in his opinion that he concluded through many years of research are high fibrosis (excess collagen in places where it shouldn't be) and high calcification in the (excess calcium in places where it shouldn't be). 

In the link below he created a chart to understand better who is responsible for what + shows what Minoxidil & Finasteride are targeting and why they are working in most cases.

https://images.app.goo.gl/GjvTkfQWVkQRyhho8

However his idea is to go all natural to decrease fibrosis and calcification through mechanical stimulation (vigorous scalp massages).

I couldn't find link on google for his full flowchart, so I just print screen'ed from the ebook I've got.

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 While all ideas makes sense, in the end it's extremely difficult to follow that massage regiment. He says regrowth starts at/around 6 month mark, before that don't expect anything.

 

P.S. I'm not trying to promote here anything. Just sharing my thoughts and experience.

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On 8/9/2019 at 3:16 PM, Lennney said:

. If you've noticed, buying fenugreek and tribulus is cheap as hell, but costs like $30+ for a 30 day supply with nugenix or whoever. They kill you with the convenience fee.

agreed, btw thanks for additional info 

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23 hours ago, Rolandas said:

While all ideas makes sense, in the end it's extremely difficult to follow that massage regiment. He says regrowth starts at/around 6 month mark, before that don't expect anything.

good info, thanks for sharing ! It seems logical and oil massage/hand massage is a time tested formula, definitely helps 

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On 8/9/2019 at 1:37 PM, HLPToronto said:

Thanks everyone for your continued support and best wishes ( not for me alone but for each other on this incredibly supportive forum ) 

it definitely needs some motivation to go ahead, book/select a doctor and get this thing done. I now feel my life is changing slowly onwards.....  and today i would like to pass on my sincere thanks to Shera who pushed me to make this decision. 

A few words: I was always scared of brain surgery lol ...... so the core decision to go or a no go was the key element, results, growth comes afterwards..... i was always contemplating, for any of those who're on the fence for a very long time.....  find a client rep like this man who continues to support me , is in touch with me till this day. He never acted like a client rep, instead a friend, a brother,  provided honest advise, said keep expectations low, i am not in 20s anymore, rather hitting 40s soon and really pushed me to go for it ( not for the sale, but for the sake of mental health/life ) I know its too early for me to complete say thank you to darling buds team but overall, if it wasn't for Shera, i would've never even continued with the next step. Himself being a patient also, he showed me the entire roadmap and it helped me to relax a bit. Now, i am happy the deed was done so HT itself as a decision is truly life changing 

I also would like to thank this forum, moderators and everyone else contributing..... :) 

 

 

Hi HLPToronto,

Thank you for the kind words, it's always an absolute pleasure dealing with patients with your attitude. Your approach and your dedication to ensure your hair transplant is a success should be a marker for all patients considering surgery.

Your progress thus far is fantastic and a credit to both Dr Bhatti and the team and to you.

I look forward to seeing you progress even further and I know we are all excited about what lies in the months ahead.

Happy growing brother!

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Kindest Regards

Shera   -   UK Representative and Patient Adviser for Dr. Tejinder Bhatti     View My FUE HT Story

UK Email : darlingbudsUK@gmail.com    UK Freephone : 0800 634 8588   WhatsApp Call/Message: +44 7708 018667

I am not a medical professional. All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice.

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