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4520 grafts with Dr. Resul Yaman

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Hey Guys,

 

I have been a regular reader on this forum and all of you make this forum great by sharing experiences. Figured  I'd do my bit as well. 

 I recently got back from my HT procedure with Dr. Yaman in Istanbul.  

Here is the distribution of my grafts

Single: 705

Double: 2973

Multiple: 842

Hair Thickness: 55 microns

I left for Istanbul 3 days prior to my surgery date. Figured i'd do a bit of sightseeing as well. I got picked up by the driver from the airport and checked in to the Diwan Hotel.

Istanbul has got some great food( Love the Doner, Kebabs and Baklava). I visited the usual touristy places of Hagia Sophia, The Blue Mosque, Grand Bazaar and Topkapi Palace on the first day. Also took a boat tour on the Bhosporus Strait on Day 2 along with Pierre Loti Hill( an amazing place). There is a cafe on top of the hill. The food is mediocre but the view of Istanbul is beautiful.

About the hotel : It was a pretty good hotel with a decent pool. Met a few guys who had their surgery on previous days and everyone seemed to be happy with their experience so far. That gave me some reassurance. And there is a safe in the room if you wanted to put your money. Additionally there is a central safe near the reception that apparently offers more security. 

Dr. Yaman had my blood test and hair analysis done on day 1. Fikret was my patient co-coordinator and he was helpful in all translations and made sure all my needs were attended to.   Dr. Yaman assessed that i have about 6000 donor grafts( I had 500 fue done earlier which was a honest mistake). The next interaction with him was on the day of the surgery. He re-drew my hairline and advised to me take it back a notch on the temples ( The earlier places 500 grafts  out of which 200 survived were too forward). We discussed that hair line should look natural and have little bit zig zag rather than a straight line. Also the Doc said their there would be higher density in the front and decreasing towards the end to create a fade effect.

After the hairline, the pre anesthesia and anesthesia were given followed by PRP. Then, another Doc who apparently specializes in extraction came along and looked at my pictures and started extraction. That lasted about 3 hours. He spoke decent English and we had some nice conversation. Also i ended up requesting more anesthesia whenever i felt pain. I had my lunch around 2 p.m. and the implant process started after that which is done by the nurses. Dr. Yaman checked in once during mid way and came back at the end of implantation. During his final inspection, Dr. Yaman asked the extraction to extract another 100 more and place them. By the time everything was done ,it was about 6 p.m( started around 9:30).  Make sure to sleep the same way as instructed for the first 4 days using the neck pillow. There was a bit of swelling but it died down by Day 3/4.

The next day i got my bandage removed and had my first wash on the day after that. The nurse who helped with the first wash told me that my healing was faster than normal( translated by fikret).That was also the day i flew back to the US, and was dropped back to the airport by the clinic. ( Make sure you have check-in bag to carry the shampoos and lotion).

Also, the pain after the HT was okay but its really the day 4 and day 5 where it peaks because the painkillers wear off and the nerves at the back of the head are really sore. Should be okay by Day 7-8 though. Been washing as advised and slowly the scabs have been coming off. Luckily i haven't had the redness for too long. Guess it depends on the skin type.

I hope to post pictures every month so that i keep you guys updated.

Now for the pictures:

 

Before: 

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After ( on Day 3 after first wash):

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On Day 8 :

 

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Thanks for posting your experience, please keep us updated on your progress 🙂


I do not provide medical advice, recommendations, all responses are my opinion.

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1 hour ago, BjornBorg said:

Thanks for sharing. Are you on meds?

Yeah, I am on lipogain minoxidil and topical finasteride for the past 4 months. Will be back on it after week 2. 

12 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Thanks for posting your experience, please keep us updated on your progress 🙂

Sure, Melvin. :) 

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Just hit the 2 month mark today. The transplanted hair shed between the 4th week to the 8th. I'd say i lost about 95% of the transplanted grafts.

The donor area is quite normal now with no pain whatsoever. The recipient area is slowly getting back the sensations after being numb for a while. Had a few pimples(folliculitis) in recipient area around week 5 but it wasn't too bad and eventually went away.

I guess the long winter ( long wait period) just started. Will update after a couple of months.

Took a few picture ( a couple of them with flash), but have to admit that the lighting is a bit harsh.

 

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 4th month minus 2 days. 

It seems to be going okay, but quite slow. I guess i am one of the "slow growth guys". The first 3 pictures are wet hair, and added a couple of natural light pictures ( one in shade and one in direct sun).

What do you guys think of the progress so far? @LordBaldwin @CosmoKramer or any other senior folks here.

I would be taking 2 PRP sessions, one each month in 5th and 6th.

Fingers crossed.

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2 hours ago, dilbert1191 said:

 4th month minus 2 days. 

It seems to be going okay, but quite slow. I guess i am one of the "slow growth guys". The first 3 pictures are wet hair, and added a couple of natural light pictures ( one in shade and one in direct sun).

What do you guys think of the progress so far? @LordBaldwin @CosmoKramer or any other senior folks here.

I would be taking 2 PRP sessions, one each month in 5th and 6th.

Fingers crossed.

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Ok, so there had been a post by Dr. Bloxham explaining the growth of transplanted hair for a normal/average grower.  In his analysis, he explained that, as time goes on, transplanted hairs first "pop" through the scalp, then mature.  For a normal/average grower, the percentage popped in a given month is approximately equivalent to the month multiplied by 10 (in other words, at month 3, 30% of your transplanted hair should have popped).  Additionally, he said that maturation of the hair that has popped lags the percentage of hair popped by about 20% (so in month 3, 10% of the hair that has popped will have matured).  Being the math nut that I am, I felt compelled to translate this to the only type of number we care about -- percentage complete (defined as a percentage of the total amount of coverage you should theoretically see when your result is complete).

Based on Bloxham's premises, a normal person's growth will look like this:

Month % Popped % Matured % Coverage for Popped Hair Based on Maturity % Complete
0 0 0 0 0
1 0.1 0 0.5 5
2 0.2 0 0.5 10
3 0.3 0.1 0.55 16.5
4 0.4 0.2 0.6 24
5 0.5 0.3 0.65 32.5
6 0.6 0.4 0.7 42
7 0.7 0.5 0.75 52.5
8 0.8 0.6 0.8 64
9 0.9 0.7 0.85 76.5
10 1 0.8 0.9 90
11 1 0.9 0.95 95
12 1 1 1 100
13 1 1 1 100

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Now, how accurate is this?  The only way I could "confirm" my data was to compare against the only other quantitative hair transplant growth chart I could find on the internet.  It looked like this:

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As you can see, it looks similar, albeit less specific.

Now, I also made some adjusted tables and graphs for slow growers (defined as lagging a normal grower in both pop rate and maturation rate by one month) and fast growers (defined as leading a normal grower in both pop and maturation rate by one month). 

A slow grower's data would look like this:

Month % Popped % Matured % Coverage for Popped Hair Based on Maturity % Complete
0 0 0 0 0
1 0 0 0.5 0
2 0.1 0 0.5 5
3 0.2 0 0.5 10
4 0.3 0.1 0.55 16.5
5 0.4 0.2 0.6 24
6 0.5 0.3 0.65 32.5
7 0.6 0.4 0.7 42
8 0.7 0.5 0.75 52.5
9 0.8 0.6 0.8 64
10 0.9 0.7 0.85 76.5
11 1 0.8 0.9 90
12 1 0.9 0.95 95
13 1 1 1 100

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A fast grower would look like this:

Month % Popped % Matured % Coverage for Popped Hair Based on Maturity % Complete
0 0 0 0 0
1 0.2 0 0.5 10
2 0.3 0 0.5 15
3 0.4 0.2 0.6 24
4 0.5 0.3 0.65 32.5
5 0.6 0.4 0.7 42
6 0.7 0.5 0.75 52.5
7 0.8 0.6 0.8 64
8 0.9 0.7 0.85 76.5
9 1 0.8 0.9 90
10 1 0.9 0.95 95
11 1 1 1 100
12 1 1 1 100
13 1 1 1 100

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So... at 4 months, even if you were a fast grower, you'd only be about 33% done.  If you were a normal grower, you'd be 24% done.  If you were a slow grower, you'd only be about 17% done.  In other words, no matter what, you still have a long way to go.  Assuming you're a slow grower (and it looks like you are), you still have over 80% to go in terms of coverage improvement.

For some perspective, I believe I'm a "normal" grower.  Some of my pictures from month 4 are shown below.

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2 hours ago, dilbert1191 said:

@LordBaldwin Wow, that's some excellent projections for the regrowth. Thank you for giving a detailed response :) I'll follow your timeline!

No problem, buddy.  I'll watch your progress as well.


 

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7 hours ago, LordBaldwin said:

Ok, so there had been a post by Dr. Bloxham explaining the growth of transplanted hair for a normal/average grower.  In his analysis, he explained that, as time goes on, transplanted hairs first "pop" through the scalp, then mature.  For a normal/average grower, the percentage popped in a given month is approximately equivalent to the month multiplied by 10 (in other words, at month 3, 30% of your transplanted hair should have popped).  Additionally, he said that maturation of the hair that has popped lags the percentage of hair popped by about 20% (so in month 3, 10% of the hair that has popped will have matured).  Being the math nut that I am, I felt compelled to translate this to the only type of number we care about -- percentage complete (defined as a percentage of the total amount of coverage you should theoretically see when your result is complete).

Based on Bloxham's premises, a normal person's growth will look like this:

Month % Popped % Matured % Coverage for Popped Hair Based on Maturity % Complete
0 0 0 0 0
1 0.1 0 0.5 5
2 0.2 0 0.5 10
3 0.3 0.1 0.55 16.5
4 0.4 0.2 0.6 24
5 0.5 0.3 0.65 32.5
6 0.6 0.4 0.7 42
7 0.7 0.5 0.75 52.5
8 0.8 0.6 0.8 64
9 0.9 0.7 0.85 76.5
10 1 0.8 0.9 90
11 1 0.9 0.95 95
12 1 1 1 100
13 1 1 1 100

image.png.8735679d6ec22f663e113f06fff96051.png

Now, how accurate is this?  The only way I could "confirm" my data was to compare against the only other quantitative hair transplant growth chart I could find on the internet.  It looked like this:

timeline_hair_transplantation.jpg.139684dac4944a221a146b943920df6b.jpg

As you can see, it looks similar, albeit less specific.

Now, I also made some adjusted tables and graphs for slow growers (defined as lagging a normal grower in both pop rate and maturation rate by one month) and fast growers (defined as leading a normal grower in both pop and maturation rate by one month). 

A slow grower's data would look like this:

Month % Popped % Matured % Coverage for Popped Hair Based on Maturity % Complete
0 0 0 0 0
1 0 0 0.5 0
2 0.1 0 0.5 5
3 0.2 0 0.5 10
4 0.3 0.1 0.55 16.5
5 0.4 0.2 0.6 24
6 0.5 0.3 0.65 32.5
7 0.6 0.4 0.7 42
8 0.7 0.5 0.75 52.5
9 0.8 0.6 0.8 64
10 0.9 0.7 0.85 76.5
11 1 0.8 0.9 90
12 1 0.9 0.95 95
13 1 1 1 100

image.png.4322dd33f5beb3fe43fb8f6c232144be.png

A fast grower would look like this:

Month % Popped % Matured % Coverage for Popped Hair Based on Maturity % Complete
0 0 0 0 0
1 0.2 0 0.5 10
2 0.3 0 0.5 15
3 0.4 0.2 0.6 24
4 0.5 0.3 0.65 32.5
5 0.6 0.4 0.7 42
6 0.7 0.5 0.75 52.5
7 0.8 0.6 0.8 64
8 0.9 0.7 0.85 76.5
9 1 0.8 0.9 90
10 1 0.9 0.95 95
11 1 1 1 100
12 1 1 1 100
13 1 1 1 100

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So... at 4 months, even if you were a fast grower, you'd only be about 33% done.  If you were a normal grower, you'd be 24% done.  If you were a slow grower, you'd only be about 17% done.  In other words, no matter what, you still have a long way to go.  Assuming you're a slow grower (and it looks like you are), you still have over 80% to go in terms of coverage improvement.

For some perspective, I believe I'm a "normal" grower.  Some of my pictures from month 4 are shown below.

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I love that you exist on this forum. Damn.

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Hi man, from the looks of you 4th month photos your progress looks good, but the growth process has just started for you so more to look forward to. The photo you took that’s not in such bright direct light/sunlight makes the “illusion” of thickness look better.

Also, nice data compilation by @LordBaldwin! 👍🏻

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5 hours ago, CosmoKramer said:

Hi man, from the looks of you 4th month photos your progress looks good, but the growth process has just started for you so more to look forward to. The photo you took that’s not in such bright direct light/sunlight makes the “illusion” of thickness look better.

Also, nice data compilation by @LordBaldwin! 👍🏻

Thanks Kramer, that's reassuring. Yes, it looks better in that natural light but yeah looking forward to the next few months.

1 hour ago, LordBaldwin said:

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Haha! Seriously, that analysis should be a pinned post in the forum. 

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Update 5 months minus 2 days.

 

I think it looks aesthetically better than the month before. Hopefully the growth and maturing picks up in the next 2-4 months. Had one PRP session in the 1st week of 4th month. Will have another 1 or 2 before 10th month.

Pictures(dry hair):

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Wet Hair:

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On 7/31/2019 at 6:47 PM, dilbert1191 said:

Update 5 months minus 2 days.

 

I think it looks aesthetically better than the month before. Hopefully the growth and maturing picks up in the next 2-4 months. Had one PRP session in the 1st week of 4th month. Will have another 1 or 2 before 10th month.

Pictures(dry hair):

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Wet Hair:

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hope you got best results!

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