Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 11, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 11, 2019 Day 206 (Month 7 minus one week): I'm happy to report that I've seen a significant burst of growth since my last update, and I'm now prepared to declare my procedure a success; at the very least, I'd rate the result, as it stands today, as "good," with many more months of growth to go for improvement to a potentially great final product (where no thinning is visible and it'll look like nothing ever happened). If I were to quantify things, I'd say the clock on my hair has been turned back about 7-8 years, which meets the goal I set with Dr. Erdogan. Additional growth will be a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted July 12, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted July 12, 2019 Nice improvement, you will likely see further density improvement from here on out either from thickening of the already growing hairs or from another sprout burst or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 13, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said: Nice improvement, you will likely see further density improvement from here on out either from thickening of the already growing hairs or from another sprout burst or both. Yeah, by now, about 70% of hair should have popped, and 50% of that 70% that popped should now be mature. If I'm an "average" grower, this would mean that I'm about 50% done in terms of coverage improvement. If I'm a "fast" grower, I'd be about 60% done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted July 13, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted July 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, LordBaldwin said: Yeah, by now, about 70% of hair should have popped, and 50% of that 70% that popped should now be mature. If I'm an "average" grower, this would mean that I'm about 50% done in terms of coverage improvement. If I'm a "fast" grower, I'd be about 60% done. I agree. Have you added anything to spur the growth a bit faster? I.e. MSM/Biotin/B-complex/Minoxidil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 13, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said: I agree. Have you added anything to spur the growth a bit faster? I.e. MSM/Biotin/B-complex/Minoxidil? Yes. I took your advice to try the emu and coconut oils. Also, since the beginning, I've been taking this supplement called Propidren, which contains biotin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted July 13, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted July 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, LordBaldwin said: Yes. I took your advice to try the emu and coconut oils. Also, since the beginning, I've been taking this supplement called Propidren, which contains biotin. Nice. Another little tip that may help if interested is that several months ago I purchased and added to the oils with each scalp massage was NOW brand 100% Peppermint oil and added some drops to the oils to better increase scalp circulation/blood flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Craig2412 Posted July 14, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted July 14, 2019 Congratulations, I’m glad you’re pleased with your result at quite an early stage too. It looks really good from the indoor photos and still plenty of time to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 14, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Craig2412 said: Congratulations, I’m glad you’re pleased with your result at quite an early stage too. It looks really good from the indoor photos and still plenty of time to improve. Thanks! Yeah, I'm still hoping for some improvement for a thick appearance in direct sunlight and when wet, but there's enough of an improvement already that I could live with it even if all progress stopped now (obviously I hope it does continue to improve). My biggest issue before was the loss of my hairline and the way it absolutely decimated my appearance. Here's what I looked like at 18, before the Noorwood Reaper came in on his wrecking ball, on a mission to ruin my self esteem (and dating life) forever. I acknowledge that I'll never look like this again unless hair cloning becomes mainstream in the near future: Here's what I looked like at 26, after loss was well underway but the hair still looked decent. This is what I'd like to get back to (and what I think is realistically within reach). And here I was at 30, when I finally decided things were out of control and I needed to pull the trigger on the transplant. Not to toot my own horn or anything, but I used to be a pretty decent looking guy before this all started. The loss of my hair was absolutely devastating. Hell, after it got this bad, I couldn't look in the mirror without getting hit by a wave of depression. Here I am now, again: As you can see, the difference between now and immediately before my surgery is stark, and I think I've already reached where I was when I was 26. The fact that I no longer have a "fivehead" transforms my look entirely; this is why any additional improvement would only be icing on the cake. Edited July 14, 2019 by LordBaldwin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Craig2412 Posted July 14, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted July 14, 2019 Yes I agree, the hairline is looking a lot closer to 26 now and a big improvement from 30. Hopefully things do carrying on improving for you. Haha I know the feeling, it’s only been the last few weeks that I’ve started to realise how just having a hairline can make such a positive difference to one’s appearance and framing the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 14, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Craig2412 said: Yes I agree, the hairline is looking a lot closer to 26 now and a big improvement from 30. Hopefully things do carrying on improving for you. Haha I know the feeling, it’s only been the last few weeks that I’ve started to realise how just having a hairline can make such a positive difference to one’s appearance and framing the face. Thanks. Yeah, I actually made a model to estimate how far along a person is in their growth at any given time (it's based in Excel, so I'm still trying to figure out how to share it with the community). Here's a snapshot from today: If this is accurate, I should still have a while to go. Microscopic photos taken yesterday support the idea that a lot of the hair still isn't matured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Craig2412 Posted July 14, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted July 14, 2019 Thanks for sharing with us and also sharing your detailed knowledge and stats which help people on the same journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 14, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Craig2412 said: Thanks for sharing with us and also sharing your detailed knowledge and stats which help people on the same journey. No problem. If you, or anyone else, wants to try the model (assuming you have MS Excel), you can PM me your email address and I'll send it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 18, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 Months Things are looking pretty good, I think. Had a haircut this past weekend, so the hair is on the shorter side. No Flash: With Flash: Intense Artificial Light (Mirror Selfie): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member MrBolo Posted July 18, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted July 18, 2019 Looking good - definitely improved. Have you thought about growing out your hair a little to get a better sense of density? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 18, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrBolo said: Looking good - definitely improved. Have you thought about growing out your hair a little to get a better sense of density? Eh, I've thought about it. The problem is that my hair gets puffy (kind of like a fro) if I let it get too long, and it ends up looking unruly as a result. Also, to be honest, I'm not that concerned about additional density at this point. Since I was suffering from diffuse thinning from the very beginning of the hair loss process, I can't even really remember what it was like to have a really dense look to my hair. That being said, it would still be nice if it did thicken up a bit more. Based on my model, I should be no more than 65% of the way to my ultimate result right now, so there's still a good chance it will get there. Edited July 18, 2019 by LordBaldwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 19, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 19, 2019 On 7/12/2019 at 8:48 PM, CosmoKramer said: Nice. Another little tip that may help if interested is that several months ago I purchased and added to the oils with each scalp massage was NOW brand 100% Peppermint oil and added some drops to the oils to better increase scalp circulation/blood flow. Alright, adding castor, and rosemary, and peppermint oils to the regimen. Like an idiot, I applied too much peppermint last night, which ended up dripping down my forehead and almost burning the sh*t out of my eyes. I did some some studies that support the claim that peppermint and rosemary actually do stimulate growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted July 20, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 9:56 AM, LordBaldwin said: Alright, adding castor, and rosemary, and peppermint oils to the regimen. Like an idiot, I applied too much peppermint last night, which ended up dripping down my forehead and almost burning the sh*t out of my eyes. I did some some studies that support the claim that peppermint and rosemary actually do stimulate growth. Yeah, definitely only use/mix pure essential oils in with a carrier oil, NEVER apply it alone directly to skin as you may get bad reactions. Yes, I’ve looked at some of those studies a while ago that support that these oils may have a positive growth effect on scalp and hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 21, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, CosmoKramer said: Yeah, definitely only use/mix pure essential oils in with a carrier oil, NEVER apply it alone directly to skin as you may get bad reactions. Yes, I’ve looked at some of those studies a while ago that support that these oils may have a positive growth effect on scalp and hair. Yep. It was a learning experience...heh. I'm mixing it with the castor and emu oils. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member keysersoze Posted July 21, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted July 21, 2019 Very nice and great write up. Look forward to seeing 16 month mark but already looking so good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 21, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 hours ago, keysersoze said: Very nice and great write up. Look forward to seeing 16 month mark but already looking so good!! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member zz333 Posted July 26, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted July 26, 2019 Nice one man, very relatable to the part where you said a recided hairline with a 5 or 6 head can completely ruin a faces symmetry and with no other way of putting it make you an ugly guy... even with every other part of your face looking great its a real deal breaker. Im only 21 and it took my awhile to put the connection together that my recided hairline did not at all compliment my face. It was only once i realised the reason wearing a hat made my face look good was it hid my hairline and that made all the difference. Its an unusual thing but luckily we took the plunge as i am 1 month post op at ASMED and am right in the middle of the ugly duckling stage. Hopefully the last time ill see my balding ugly head until I'm atlest 40. Then i may be okay with shaving it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payam Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 8 hours ago, zz333 said: Nice one man, very relatable to the part where you said a recided hairline with a 5 or 6 head can completely ruin a faces symmetry and with no other way of putting it make you an ugly guy... even with every other part of your face looking great its a real deal breaker. Im only 21 and it took my awhile to put the connection together that my recided hairline did not at all compliment my face. It was only once i realised the reason wearing a hat made my face look good was it hid my hairline and that made all the difference. Its an unusual thing but luckily we took the plunge as i am 1 month post op at ASMED and am right in the middle of the ugly duckling stage. Hopefully the last time ill see my balding ugly head until I'm atlest 40. Then i may be okay with shaving it off. You will not be able to shave it off due to the white dot scarring. A HT is a life long commitment and the vast majority of patients have to go through several transplants as their hair loss progresses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 27, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 11:13 AM, zz333 said: Nice one man, very relatable to the part where you said a recided hairline with a 5 or 6 head can completely ruin a faces symmetry and with no other way of putting it make you an ugly guy... even with every other part of your face looking great its a real deal breaker. Im only 21 and it took my awhile to put the connection together that my recided hairline did not at all compliment my face. It was only once i realised the reason wearing a hat made my face look good was it hid my hairline and that made all the difference. Its an unusual thing but luckily we took the plunge as i am 1 month post op at ASMED and am right in the middle of the ugly duckling stage. Hopefully the last time ill see my balding ugly head until I'm atlest 40. Then i may be okay with shaving it off. Yeah, it's amazing how much of a difference proper framing of the face makes. Completely changes everything. TBH, by the time you're 40, I'm sure hair cloning will be available. There was recently an article in The Atlantic about scientists working to 3D print cloned follicles/dermal papillae on a biodegradable scaffold on the scalp to fully restore hair... Seems like the most likely approach to succeed. Out of curiosity, did you make a thread to cover your progress? The more information everyone has about clinic results, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member zz333 Posted July 28, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted July 28, 2019 15 hours ago, LordBaldwin said: Yeah, it's amazing how much of a difference proper framing of the face makes. Completely changes everything. TBH, by the time you're 40, I'm sure hair cloning will be available. There was recently an article in The Atlantic about scientists working to 3D print cloned follicles/dermal papillae on a biodegradable scaffold on the scalp to fully restore hair... Seems like the most likely approach to succeed. Out of curiosity, did you make a thread to cover your progress? The more information everyone has about clinic results, the better. Yeah man here it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted July 31, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) Month 7.5 (Approximately) No flash (indirect natural light): Flash: Intense artificial light (mirror selfie): Direct sunlight: At this point, I should be about 60% of the way to my final result. Date of Surgery Speed of Growth Day Display Month Display Predicted Current % Complete 12/17/2018 Normal 226 7.4 57 Edited July 31, 2019 by LordBaldwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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