Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 26, 2018 Regular Member Posted December 26, 2018 I mean look at those lines. How can I possibly get this fixed? Any advice appreciated!
Regular Member John Doe Posted December 26, 2018 Regular Member Posted December 26, 2018 Not great, but not horrible. I’d guess that could be fixed. Who did you go to 1
Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 26, 2018 Author Regular Member Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, John Doe said: Not great, but not horrible. I’d guess that could be fixed. Who did you go to Thanks for the reply, it was by Dr Russell Knudsen of Australia. I'm pretty sure that adding density will help a lot, but what I'm really worried about is the hairline - it's line looks so unnatural.
Regular Member hairaway Posted December 26, 2018 Regular Member Posted December 26, 2018 for me, it doesn't look unnatural. It looks like it's thinning. I also had a transplant 4 months ago and in the same boat. We will need to fill it up again however yours doesn't look unnatural to the normal eye, no. 1
Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 26, 2018 Author Regular Member Posted December 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, hairaway said: for me, it doesn't look unnatural. It looks like it's thinning. I also had a transplant 4 months ago and in the same boat. We will need to fill it up again however yours doesn't look unnatural to the normal eye, no. Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate your point of view.
Senior Member TrixGlendevon Posted December 26, 2018 Senior Member Posted December 26, 2018 It doesn't look unnatural - it just looks like it is lacking density. Which it is. Easy to fix. 1
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted December 26, 2018 Senior Member Posted December 26, 2018 To make a judgement of the transplant we need clear pre-, intra- and post-OP pics. Seems like density is missing, but without pics it is not easy to understand if it is a lack of growth (bad) or a lack of density planted (better). Also your pics are to poor to judge if the detailes of the hairline is good (e. g. singles or multies, micro iregularities) or not. The overall design appears OK. Nevertheless, regarding your age (sorry) it seems like you should have some donor left and this could be easily fixable with a great clinic. Maybe consider someone using implanter pen. However you need to travel in my opinion (EU, US, Canada, Turkey, India) 1 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni
Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 26, 2018 Author Regular Member Posted December 26, 2018 6 hours ago, TrixGlendevon said: It doesn't look unnatural - it just looks like it is lacking density. Which it is. Easy to fix. Ok sounds good thanks for the feedback.
Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 26, 2018 Author Regular Member Posted December 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Gasthoerer said: To make a judgement of the transplant we need clear pre-, intra- and post-OP pics. Seems like density is missing, but without pics it is not easy to understand if it is a lack of growth (bad) or a lack of density planted (better). Also your pics are to poor to judge if the detailes of the hairline is good (e. g. singles or multies, micro iregularities) or not. The overall design appears OK. Nevertheless, regarding your age (sorry) it seems like you should have some donor left and this could be easily fixable with a great clinic. Maybe consider someone using implanter pen. However you need to travel in my opinion (EU, US, Canada, Turkey, India) Good points. Unfortunately I don't have any great pre-op photos. I agree that I need to travel, is there a surgeon or clinic that you know of that might be suited to this? I'm in the research stage and its always great to get a recommendation!
Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Regular Member Posted December 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Phil36fromaus said: yeah i consulted recently with Knudsen as well - even some of his before and after pics on his website have this exact same problem. Do you know if you had an FUT or FUE? And what was the graft count? When was it done and do you also have any pictures of your donor area (back of your head)? It honestly looks like an easy fix. In the meantime I'd consider using toppik to add some much needed density to your hairline if it's troubling you Thanks for your comments. I had FUT - a total of 1300 grafts. I don't have any photos of the back of my head that show very much but see the one attached. I have had my hair pretty short but I haven't noticed any scars showing if that helps. I hope your right in it being an easy fix!
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted December 27, 2018 Senior Member Posted December 27, 2018 1300 grafts FUT for this case...This guy must be a butcher. Never go there again. If you have the laxity left, I would recommend another FUT - Hattingen - Hasson and Wong - Feriduni If you decide for FUE, I would go with specialists for diffused thing and use implanter pen or do work by themself - Lorenzo - Freitas - Lupanzula Good luck 2 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni
Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Regular Member Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Gasthoerer said: 1300 grafts FUT for this case...This guy must be a butcher. Never go there again. If you have the laxity left, I would recommend another FUT - Hattingen - Hasson and Wong - Feriduni If you decide for FUE, I would go with specialists for diffused thing and use implanter pen or do work by themself - Lorenzo - Freitas - Lupanzula Good luck Thanks for those names, I have contacted a few of them already and I'll try the others too.
Regular Member HairLossMentor Posted December 27, 2018 Regular Member Posted December 27, 2018 @davebot8888 What are your goals? Do you just want to increase the density? Are you happy with the hairline placement? 1
Senior Member Shera Posted December 27, 2018 Senior Member Posted December 27, 2018 Hi Dave, The actual hairline placement doesn't look too bad, I would just go for a 1200 or so graft top up surgery to strengthen the hairline. A very straightforward surgery that'll take no more than a day. Your donor looks good to go. Also, lots of Australians go to Dr Bhatti for their surgery, in fact the following Aussie patient's posts convinced me to go over 4 years ago. https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/31508-hair-transplant-with-dr-tejinder-bhatti-of-darling-buds-chandigarh-india/ I hope it all works out for you, feel free to contact me anytime. 1
Senior Member 1978matt Posted December 27, 2018 Senior Member Posted December 27, 2018 Hard to say if this is poor work without knowing the condition of your hair prior and how many month post op this is. 1300 grafts may have been appropriate but it just triggered permanent shock loss of existing hairs. You should ask the doc for his feedback and let us know. 1 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day
Senior Member pkipling Posted December 28, 2018 Senior Member Posted December 28, 2018 I agree that this is primarily a density issue and is easily fixable with the right surgeon. (Use this forum for recommendations and research, research, research!) That said, I see what you mean about the design of the hairline. It's not horrible, but it is quite linear and I think when having it touched up, focusing on finding a surgeon that really knows how to design a perfectly imperfect hairline will really serve you and make you a lot happier in the long run. 1 I am a patient advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi in Los Angeles, CA. My views/opinions are my own and don't necessarily reflect the opinions of Dr. Mohebi and his staff. Check out my hair loss website for photos FUE surgery by Dr. Mohebi on 7/31/14 2,001 grafts - Ones: 607; Twos: 925; Threes: 413; Fours: 56
Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 28, 2018 Author Regular Member Posted December 28, 2018 7 hours ago, HairLossMentor said: @davebot8888 What are your goals? Do you just want to increase the density? Are you happy with the hairline placement? Hey, HairLossMentor my goals are to just get it looking good and not fake like it does now. If that is achieved by increasing density and tweaking the hairline then that's what I want to do Part of the problem is that I don't know what it would actually take to make it look right.
Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 28, 2018 Author Regular Member Posted December 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Shera said: Hi Dave, The actual hairline placement doesn't look too bad, I would just go for a 1200 or so graft top up surgery to strengthen the hairline. A very straightforward surgery that'll take no more than a day. Your donor looks good to go. Also, lots of Australians go to Dr Bhatti for their surgery, in fact the following Aussie patient's posts convinced me to go over 4 years ago. https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/31508-hair-transplant-with-dr-tejinder-bhatti-of-darling-buds-chandigarh-india/ I hope it all works out for you, feel free to contact me anytime. Thanks for the comments. Do you think just strengthening the hairline with more 1200 grafts would work, or does it need a bit of making it look a bit more jagged or something?
Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 28, 2018 Author Regular Member Posted December 28, 2018 6 hours ago, 1978matt said: Hard to say if this is poor work without knowing the condition of your hair prior and how many month post op this is. 1300 grafts may have been appropriate but it just triggered permanent shock loss of existing hairs. You should ask the doc for his feedback and let us know. That's a really good idea to get some feedback from the doctor, I hadn't thought of that. Thanks BTW I'm nearly 3 years post-op
Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 28, 2018 Author Regular Member Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, pkipling said: I agree that this is primarily a density issue and is easily fixable with the right surgeon. (Use this forum for recommendations and research, research, research!) That said, I see what you mean about the design of the hairline. It's not horrible, but it is quite linear and I think when having it touched up, focusing on finding a surgeon that really knows how to design a perfectly imperfect hairline will really serve you and make you a lot happier in the long run. Thanks, I think you're absolutely right about going for a "surgeon that really knows how to design a perfectly imperfect hairline" I don't suppose you have any suggestions for any suitable surgeons? Regards
Senior Member pkipling Posted December 28, 2018 Senior Member Posted December 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, davebot8888 said: Thanks, I think you're absolutely right about going for a "surgeon that really knows how to design a perfectly imperfect hairline" I don't suppose you have any suggestions for any suitable surgeons? Regards Dr. Mohebi knocked it out of the park with me and gave me my ideal perfectly imperfect hairline. It was one of the things he was very adamant about educating me on when I had my consultation with him, and it's something he takes a lot of pride in. I remember him going into great detail about how designing a natural hairline is his own artistic outlet and how much joy he gets out of it. I'm happy to reach out to him for you if you want to do an online consultation, or you can reach out to him through his website. And no matter who you choose, the important thing is that you do lots of research, have consultations with your top choices, and then trust your gut when making the final decision on who to go with. 1 I am a patient advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi in Los Angeles, CA. My views/opinions are my own and don't necessarily reflect the opinions of Dr. Mohebi and his staff. Check out my hair loss website for photos FUE surgery by Dr. Mohebi on 7/31/14 2,001 grafts - Ones: 607; Twos: 925; Threes: 413; Fours: 56
Regular Member davebot8888 Posted December 28, 2018 Author Regular Member Posted December 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, pkipling said: Dr. Mohebi knocked it out of the park with me and gave me my ideal perfectly imperfect hairline. It was one of the things he was very adamant about educating me on when I had my consultation with him, and it's something he takes a lot of pride in. I remember him going into great detail about how designing a natural hairline is his own artistic outlet and how much joy he gets out of it. I'm happy to reach out to him for you if you want to do an online consultation, or you can reach out to him through his website. And no matter who you choose, the important thing is that you do lots of research, have consultations with your top choices, and then trust your gut when making the final decision on who to go with. Thanks so much. Great advice. I'll check out his work immediately :)) 1
LonelyGraft Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 15 hours ago, Gasthoerer said: 1300 grafts FUT for this case...This guy must be a butcher. Never go there again. If you have the laxity left, I would recommend another FUT - Hattingen - Hasson and Wong - Feriduni If you decide for FUE, I would go with specialists for diffused thing and use implanter pen or do work by themself - Lorenzo - Freitas - Lupanzula Good luck What is the benefit of utilizing implanter pens?
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted December 28, 2018 Senior Member Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, jj51702 said: What is the benefit of utilizing implanter pens? My understanding is, that the implanter pen: - Makes it easier to work in between existing hair - Makes it easier to dense pack as you can have smaller incisions (just as big as the implanter) = less trauma to surrounding hair On the negative side: - It is more difficult to get the angles and bending of the hairs right --> Hence I understand: Implanter pen is better for touch ups but worse on complete bald areas 1 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted December 28, 2018 Senior Member Posted December 28, 2018 11 hours ago, 1978matt said: Hard to say if this is poor work without knowing the condition of your hair prior and how many month post op this is. 1300 grafts may have been appropriate but it just triggered permanent shock loss of existing hairs. You should ask the doc for his feedback and let us know. Normally you are right, but: 1300 (!) FU Strip considering the age of this patient is not state of the art: Either it is to less hair for this area anyway, and also to small of a case to have a strip OR it is just to few grafts for the area covered AND for a strip. Either way it is not state-of-the-art work. Not having pictures pre-, intra- and post op by the clinic is just the icing of the cake. I would be very (!) surprised if there is a great explanation of the clinic. 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni
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