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I remember around 6-7 years ago, i would put all my money for dr Rahal. However right now i did not see much updates from him. Is he still consider to be hairline king? Who is his competition in this area??

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He is still a great doctor no doubt. I see no reason why things would have changed since a few years back. With that said, "hairline king" is highly subjective. He's a great surgeon with a long track record and consistent results.


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Freitas, Keser, Baubac, Hasson are some I would also consider.

Obviously it relates to preference also, much more important that you yourself can look at results of various surgeons and understand why and which you prefer. No surgeon can guarantee good results either, but I personally would have strongly considered Rahal if I was looking for FUT.

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I recently did a consult with Rahal and I found his recommendations  interesting but still kind of caught me off guard and I'm having a hard time getting completely on broad with them I really didn't  want to have to deal with incremental  HT's  or temporary ongoing procedures like  SMP's and find myself  still looking for a better alternative.  

Anyways here's some of what they had to say below along with a link to his pre and post op instruction and  treatment plans and resent picture of my hair-loss wet 

Wondering how his pre and post treatment plans compare to other doctors  I don't know if its just me but  do they seem a little intense ?

 

I ran your photos by Dr. Rahal and he agreed that it is a bit early to be targeting your crown area.  The diffuse thinning you are experiencing in that area means high risk of shock loss so they fear is you will not see enough benefit to be worth targeting the area. He is however more then happy to fill in your temple angles and strengthen your hairline and frontal zones. You should also consider adding our PRP with your hair transplant, and as an ongoing treatment to prevent future loss.The cost to add it with your procedure is $650 +hst. The other procedure we discussed was Scalp Micropigmentation (SMP). I know you weren't a huge fan of the idea but it can be a great way to add density to your crown area that we are not targeting with surgery SMP is a small semi-permanent pigment that we do on the scalp to help boost the illusion of density by minimizing the contrast between your hair colour and skin tone. It lasts about 5 years. The cost for a density treatment for the crown area is $2,800.00 CAD+tax. It normally takes 2 treatments designed as a layering effect to give the most natural appearance and duplicate the appearance of native hair follicles. If this is of interest we could coordinate this to be done when you make the trip for surgery. 

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tNfzdIOkxFUswS7eOXZG1seBKWuGVW6x

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1y54RNvN-aMLfYT3SelO-rRjyaT3QgpxF

 

 

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3 hours ago, Markee said:

I recently did a consult with Rahal and I found his recommendations  interesting but still kind of caught me off guard and I'm having a hard time getting completely on broad with them I really didn't  want to have to deal with incremental  HT's  or temporary ongoing procedures like  SMP's and find myself  still looking for a better alternative.  

Anyways here's some of what they had to say below along with a link to his pre and post op instruction and  treatment plans and resent picture of my hair-loss wet 

Wondering how his pre and post treatment plans compare to other doctors  I don't know if its just me but  do they seem a little intense ?

 

I ran your photos by Dr. Rahal and he agreed that it is a bit early to be targeting your crown area.  The diffuse thinning you are experiencing in that area means high risk of shock loss so they fear is you will not see enough benefit to be worth targeting the area. He is however more then happy to fill in your temple angles and strengthen your hairline and frontal zones. You should also consider adding our PRP with your hair transplant, and as an ongoing treatment to prevent future loss.The cost to add it with your procedure is $650 +hst. The other procedure we discussed was Scalp Micropigmentation (SMP). I know you weren't a huge fan of the idea but it can be a great way to add density to your crown area that we are not targeting with surgery SMP is a small semi-permanent pigment that we do on the scalp to help boost the illusion of density by minimizing the contrast between your hair colour and skin tone. It lasts about 5 years. The cost for a density treatment for the crown area is $2,800.00 CAD+tax. It normally takes 2 treatments designed as a layering effect to give the most natural appearance and duplicate the appearance of native hair follicles. If this is of interest we could coordinate this to be done when you make the trip for surgery. 

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tNfzdIOkxFUswS7eOXZG1seBKWuGVW6x

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1y54RNvN-aMLfYT3SelO-rRjyaT3QgpxF

 

 

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I'd be thankful Rahal's pre-op and post-op plans are "intense". So many things can go wrong with getting a HT, not to mention it's such a massive financial and emotional investment, so you'd want to choose a doctor that actually assesses you properly and plans things out. Anything else is utterly unacceptable IMO. (And if you want intense I heard Baubac has something like a 33 page post op document for his patients).

If you are worried about the crown I'd look at trying toppik or dermatch (concealers) first as your crown seems pretty good at this stage. The crown area is also the most responsive to medications (so in my limited understanding of things) I agree with Rahal's assessment to focus on the frontal zones first.

And so we don't hijack the original post Markee, in terms of high density hairlines I find Rahal's work utterly phenomenal, but I'd also add Konior there as well (stick and place doctors always achieve that next level of naturalness).

EDIT: Forgot Couto as well

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Thanks for responds. 


@Phil36fromaus Couto waiting list for consultation is over 3,5 years... and Konior? I did not see much results from him besides his website.  

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1 hour ago, ffar1989 said:

Thanks for responds. 


@Phil36fromaus Couto waiting list for consultation is over 3,5 years... and Konior? I did not see much results from him besides his website.  

I was going by the question for best hairlines, not the actual length of waiting lists per se. Although there is obviously a strong correlation between them.

Couto's hairlines and overall coverage are astounding IMO. I've watched his videos online in amazement. 

And Konior did my first HT. Best decision of my life - even managed to get film and advertising work from it. And there's a reason why his waiting list is around 14 months now (I believe)

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Yeah i wish there was more Rahal threads on here. I haven’t seen any recent ones lately...

I do like Rahals hairlines and also Dieps. 

 

 

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14 hours ago, JeanLDD said:

Freitas, Keser, Baubac, Hasson are some I would also consider.

Obviously it relates to preference also, much more important that you yourself can look at results of various surgeons and understand why and which you prefer. No surgeon can guarantee good results either, but I personally would have strongly considered Rahal if I was looking for FUT.

Baubac has amazing clinic posted results, but I have not seen any patient testimonials which is odd since apparently he received a reward for most FUE cases in the US or something like that, I'm trying to find some patient testimonials

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3 hours ago, ffar1989 said:

Do you have a link to video?

just google his name cuoto and hair transplant and you will find his clinic and videos (I am unaware of linking rules on this forum sorry)

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13 hours ago, Phil36fromaus said:

And Konior did my first HT. Best decision of my life - even managed to get film and advertising work from it.

Well i guess I understood this wrong :P

 

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43 minutes ago, ffar1989 said:

Well i guess I understood this wrong :P

 

loool im not posting my work here haha. and i had trouble with my last HT so I stopped working in that industry and decided to drink rum and get fat instead :)

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On 11/21/2018 at 12:39 AM, Markee said:

I recently did a consult with Rahal and I found his recommendations  interesting but still kind of caught me off guard and I'm having a hard time getting completely on broad with them I really didn't  want to have to deal with incremental  HT's  or temporary ongoing procedures like  SMP's and find myself  still looking for a better alternative.  

Anyways here's some of what they had to say below along with a link to his pre and post op instruction and  treatment plans and resent picture of my hair-loss wet 

Wondering how his pre and post treatment plans compare to other doctors  I don't know if its just me but  do they seem a little intense ?

 

I ran your photos by Dr. Rahal and he agreed that it is a bit early to be targeting your crown area.  The diffuse thinning you are experiencing in that area means high risk of shock loss so they fear is you will not see enough benefit to be worth targeting the area. He is however more then happy to fill in your temple angles and strengthen your hairline and frontal zones. You should also consider adding our PRP with your hair transplant, and as an ongoing treatment to prevent future loss.The cost to add it with your procedure is $650 +hst. The other procedure we discussed was Scalp Micropigmentation (SMP). I know you weren't a huge fan of the idea but it can be a great way to add density to your crown area that we are not targeting with surgery SMP is a small semi-permanent pigment that we do on the scalp to help boost the illusion of density by minimizing the contrast between your hair colour and skin tone. It lasts about 5 years. The cost for a density treatment for the crown area is $2,800.00 CAD+tax. It normally takes 2 treatments designed as a layering effect to give the most natural appearance and duplicate the appearance of native hair follicles. If this is of interest we could coordinate this to be done when you make the trip for surgery. 

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tNfzdIOkxFUswS7eOXZG1seBKWuGVW6x

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1y54RNvN-aMLfYT3SelO-rRjyaT3QgpxF

 

 

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i'm not a fan of SMP either, and was also recommended the service at an extra cost of course in my last procedure with Rahal .. 

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8 hours ago, home1212 said:

i'm not a fan of SMP either, and was also recommended the service at an extra cost of course in my last procedure with Rahal .. 

 

Definitely would help to see some more resent personal  reviews of the good doctors work 

How did your procedure turn out did you post your experience ?

 

Here's some newer dated Youtube videos posted by Rahal's people 

https://www.youtube.com/user/rahalhairtransplant/videos

 

 

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7 hours ago, home1212 said:

i'm not a fan of SMP either, and was also recommended the service at an extra cost of course in my last procedure with Rahal .. 

Not a fan either... seems to be largely hit and miss. Guess just like HT surgeries it comes down to the skill of the person doing it and the nature of your skin etc. 

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I dunno if Rahal is still the hairline king but I do know his patient coordinator named Aaron Bugayong with the Filipino accent was hands down the most annoying person I have ever dealt with at a ht doctors office. He would call me in the middle of the afternoon during work hours and if I didn’t answer he would dial again and again. He would leave the same voicemail message for me and even called me by the wrong name once. This was all before I had even scheduled an appointment for a consultation. Then he would follow up with a cut and paste email telling me “WE WONT GIVE UP ON YOU WE WANT TO HELP YOU GET YOUR HAIR BACK.” 

 

Horrible aggressive marketing strategy

 

 

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1 hour ago, jj51702 said:

I dunno if Rahal is still the hairline king but I do know his patient coordinator named Aaron Bugayong with the Filipino accent was hands down the most annoying person I have ever dealt with at a ht doctors office. He would call me in the middle of the afternoon during work hours and if I didn’t answer he would dial again and again. He would leave the same voicemail message for me and even called me by the wrong name once. This was all before I had even scheduled an appointment for a consultation. Then he would follow up with a cut and paste email telling me “WE WONT GIVE UP ON YOU WE WANT TO HELP YOU GET YOUR HAIR BACK.” 

 

Horrible aggressive marketing strategy

 

 

Yeah i delt with that guy  Aaron first contact back in Aug  then he transferred me over to some other dude James Freda he did my consult viewed me on cam took a day or 2 and they sent me there treatment plan after that I only heard from them one time asking me how I'm doing and if I  ready to schedule.  Replayed back told him still considering him against other doctors and asked him to  make me a deal I can't refuse :)

So what did you wind up doing ?

I want to get this done some time in 2019 just having trouble getting on -board with his particular doctors plan 

 

 

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18 hours ago, Markee said:

 

Definitely would help to see some more resent personal  reviews of the good doctors work 

How did your procedure turn out did you post your experience ?

 

Here's some newer dated Youtube videos posted by Rahal's people 

https://www.youtube.com/user/rahalhairtransplant/videos

 

 

Markee, I had 3 FUE procedures with Rahal - starting in 2014, 2k grafts to restore hairline, 2015 1.5k grafts to midscalp, and 2017 1k grafts toward rear and some crown but not full crown. I did post photos and my results on here, in fact, doing my research on here is how I went went Rahal, I did not want to do a strip procedure. I am from the NJ/NY area and originally consulted with Feller, but he offered no FUE option for my case. While I had to do it in stages with Rahal, I'm definitely happy with my decision, he's ethical and very conservative which is what I was looking for. I pay no attention to the marketing or consultants involved in the process, they are like independent contractors, and quite frankly, when you consult in person with Rahal the day before surgery, its never the same treatment plan as was prescribed by the consultant. 

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markee, i don’t see the concern with the plan just looking at that one photo you posted. The crown looks “intacked”. It doesn’t look thin (keeping the wet hair in mind). The front looks more sparse which is what Rahal said he would reinforce. What can’t you get on board with?

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On 11/21/2018 at 10:00 AM, hairlossPA said:

Yeah i wish there was more Rahal threads on here. I haven’t seen any recent ones lately...

I do like Rahals hairlines and also Dieps. 

 

 

I think Rahal recreates some of the most natural hairlines I've ever seen - almost mimicking the individual's God given natural hairline. If you look closely at Diep's work, at least to me, it seems to be a very similar hairline pattern for every patient, although the work and end result is usually good. Just my opinion and preference.

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8 hours ago, Markee said:

Yeah i delt with that guy  Aaron first contact back in Aug  then he transferred me over to some other dude James Freda he did my consult viewed me on cam took a day or 2 and they sent me there treatment plan after that I only heard from them one time asking me how I'm doing and if I  ready to schedule.  Replayed back told him still considering him against other doctors and asked him to  make me a deal I can't refuse :)

So what did you wind up doing ?

I want to get this done some time in 2019 just having trouble getting on -board with his particular doctors plan 

 

 

I Cancelled my consult. Yes I did talk to James and he was great compared to Aaron. At that time I was close to already setting up a surgery date with another doctor. But honestly Aaron’s actions painted a big negative pic for me from the start. Secondly I didn’t like the fact that they wanted to do a Skype call with a patient coordinator and not the doc himself to review my hair loss with me.

my complaint isn’t about rahal directly and I can’t speak about his work. But that Aaron guy... jeez...seemed like they brought him directly from a Filipino call center to do this job 

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