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I would seriously reconsider going through with this plan. So, without Finasteride you're going to continue to thin. In fact, implanting in between existing hair can exacerbate the loss of surrounding native hair. You could actually permanently shock out some of your native from the trauma of surgery. Your net gain wouldn't be very noticeable. Dr Diep extracts very high in the donor and what could be considered out of the safe zone. I don't believe you would have another 1000 left after getting 2000 from him now. Your donor already looks very thin. Dr. Diep uses a 1 mm punch and he doesn't particularly take a sensible approach to donor harvesting. He doesn’t extract uniformly and wherever he extracts from is going to be thin. You probably won't be able to keep your sides as short as you have them in the most current pictures. Just be careful man this is a slippery slope.


Bosley Dr. Krenitsky 11-2016 FUE 1407 grafts

Dr. Diep 09-2017 FUE 2024 grafts

Dr. Konior 03-2020 FUE 2076 grafts

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My donor definitely still has capacity. Especially when compared to how thin my top is. People are constantly getting transplanted n to areas that have native hair to reinforce density for an extremely positive net result. If this wasn't the case then people would only be getting transplants in areas where there is no native hair and the idea of "improving density" wouldn't exist. Hasson suggested the exact same number of grafts as diep and rahal. I've also had 1mm punches before from artas, and I was totally fine, my scars aren't even noticeable when my hair is cut to.5mm from those 1mm punches. I have had hair transplanted between native hairs before. You're over estimating how much permanent shock loss there is. Also I will demand my hair be extracted uniformly. Hw also said I would have more donor capacity after a 2000 graft surgery. So did erdogan, diep, and rahal. I disagree that my donor looks "really thin" sure it's not as good as it was before,  but it's definitely thicker than my hairline and crown, meaning I would have a net gain from a high yield redistribution of some of those hairs to my top. 1500 grafts in my see through and rounded hairline to make it dense and more sharp will make a big cosmetic difference to my forehead and face. Also most of the hairs in my hairline currently are transplanted anyway, they're not native hairs. Also I am willing to sacrifice a little bit of density in my donor in order to fix my crown in the future. What's the point of having a dense donor area if you're thin on top? Makes more sense to redistribute the hairs in my opinion. And idk I've seen some dense high yield looking surgeries from hasson for sure but idk I feel like from pictures and videos I've seen from diep that he gets a higher yield for the amount of grafts used. But I haven't made my decision for sure yet. I'm still considering hw too. I have awhile before a will decide for sure 

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A pretty good contrast between the two punch sizes. One of the reasons I was able to get 8300 punches out of my head without looking like a freak. .7mm -.8mm  the punches used on me. I would cringe at the notion of a 1mm punch unless I was always keeping my hair longer Or if you have really dense thick hair. 1FCA0E76-EF3E-4F13-A30A-CF18989887A5.thumb.jpeg.61baf53fbff253a522e98bb5a95816bd.jpeg

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Pretty incredible for only around 2500 grafts right here. Also I've had 1mm punch by artas and my scars were barely even noticeable when I shaved my head down for my 2nd surgery and they're completely undetectable even when I shave to.5 gaurd. Diep just uploaded this today on YouTube. 

 

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1 hour ago, Der3k7 said:

Pretty incredible for only around 2500 grafts right here. Also I've had 1mm punch by artas and my scars were barely even noticeable when I shaved my head down for my 2nd surgery and they're completely undetectable even when I shave to.5 gaurd. Diep just uploaded this today on YouTube. 

 

I gotta say, I do love Dr Dieps widows peak creations.

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2 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

I gotta say, I do love Dr Dieps widows peak creations.

I don't like widows peaks so I will be extremely clear to him on that haha

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1 minute ago, Der3k7 said:

I don't like widows peaks so I will be extremely clear to him on that haha

Haha to each their own I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

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10 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

Haha to each their own I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

They can be cool though like here

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5 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

How’s the nose? Any current photos?

I'd say the side by side Pic I posted earlier in this thread is the best Pic I have that shows the result 

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Here's a Pic I just took of myself lol for my nose. Donor area looks pretty bushy still thankfully. Haven't been able to cut it since barbershops are closed 

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48 minutes ago, Der3k7 said:

Here's a Pic I just took of myself lol for my nose. Donor area looks pretty bushy still thankfully. Haven't been able to cut it since barbershops are closed 

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Looks good man 👍🏻

Doc did a good job.

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Damn here's another great one by couto only 1500 grafts. Such high yield. Video linked as well

 

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25 minutes ago, Der3k7 said:

Damn here's another great one by couto only 1500 grafts. Such high yield. Video linked as well

This is a great result! The patient should be very happy. But it is in no way a stand out results from thousands of other clinic posted results in here. Neither density, nor naturalness are astonishing. The only crazy thing is the HGI of 2.9 for a hairline case. I am not sure if I have seen a higher value in such a case before. 

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Diep, Hasson, and couto are my tops right now 

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7 hours ago, Gasthoerer said:The only crazy thing is the HGI of 2.9 for a hairline case. I am not sure if I have seen a higher value in such a case before. 

Is this kind of a double edged sword in your opinion? Great donor quality but not great that not enough singles were used in hairline?

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6 hours ago, Der3k7 said:

Diep, Hasson, and couto are my tops right now 

I think you should also reach out to dr. Konior just to see what he says since you have a high budget and are willing to go anywhere to get this done right.

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He's the one in Chicago right? I looked at his work on his website and wasn't as impressed as hw and Diep or couto I thought 

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On 5/14/2020 at 4:21 AM, Sam818 said:

Is this kind of a double edged sword in your opinion? Great donor quality but not great that not enough singles were used in hairline?

No, this is not what I tried to say. I wanted to say that 1500 FU sounds low, but it is 4350 hairs. For an average patient it might require 2000+ grafts to get the same amount of hairs (and therefore coverage). As you have the chance to split multies, more multies do not automatically lead to an unnatural hairline.  

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Couto compilation. He's also $5.4 per graft vs $8.44 for diep but with plane ticket and extra hotel nights I'd only be saving about 4k but I care more about results than 4k lol

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Wow Diep is booked out for fue until next July right now 

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Hmm im still seriously considering couto. I forgot to ask Diep about taking my donor issues uniformly and symmetrical throughout my entire donor area target than from a patch so I have another quick consultation with him on the 29th. After that I'm gonna make my decision. I might call couto at the number they provide and set up the date for me to go visit him for an in person consultation like he said then he would be squeezing me in for my surgery over the course of that same week after he performs the surgeries of clients he already has scheduled. 

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