Regular Member Squidward Posted October 31, 2018 Regular Member Share Posted October 31, 2018 So I have narrowed down my search to these two Dr's. I have seen work I like from both of them. Yes, I would be saving a lot of money with Dr. Cinik, but with Nadimi I would be the only patient and her place and stick method with manual punch seems to be a good option. They both seem to be producing very good results. What I am asking for is if any patients that have had these Dr's that may not have posted or possibly something that I've missed (I've been scanning forums like a madman) Personally reach out to me with your experiences BAD OR GOOD because I am trying to get as most in depth as I can before I make my decision, its been about a year, year and a half in the search and after my skype and possibly in person meeting with Nadimi later this month, I will be booking with one of the two, thanks so much forum has been much help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payam Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I think its pretty simple, with Nadimi you know what you will get, good or bad you know that any result she has it was her that did it from start to finish. Having said that, I don't know about Cinik's operation but you should at least find out how many surgeries he does a day, the names of his techs, their experience etc so you don't get some nameless techs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted November 1, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted November 1, 2018 I say: You did not make proper reserach and (!) no one can help you. 1. These clincis are so fundamental different that it is not possible that these are your final 2 choices. If you say: Konior, Lupanzula, Keser or Nadimi, then yes: it is a debate. If you say ASMED, Cinik etc. then it is another debate. 2. There is not THE BEST clinic. There is just the best clinic for your case. We do not know your case (age, gender, amout of loss, goals, ...). No way we can give advice with this little input. By the way: I like the approach of Nadimi (for small cases < 1500 FU) and her tutor but you can search as much as you want. She is new in the field. There are basically no patient reports. 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Squidward Posted November 1, 2018 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 1, 2018 These are my pictures, my hair is wet out of the shower straight under the bathroom light and flash, The results I have seen from Dr. Cinik here, and on the international forums have been really good, and though they are few, Nadimi's results that I have seen have been great, plus she is Konior's student, and she does each graft extracted then implanted. I have been to a few Dr's for in person consultations as well after a reviewer thought I might have miniaturization on top but I have been clarified that I do not have any miniaturization, it is just the flash and the lighting of the bathroom with wet hair, no doctor's have yet to recommend me start on propecia as they have said my hair that I have looks very healthy, however, $10 a graft is just not in my price range. I have thought that Dr. Cinik's results have been very good, which why I had him as one of my prospects and the e-mails have been consistent, informative and quick in response. Nadimi' as well has been very helpful and she does seem very knowledable on what she is doing, furthermore every result I have seen from her it looks as though pretty much every graft has grown and that in itself is important, but like always very open to input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Squidward Posted November 2, 2018 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 2, 2018 And Dr. Cinik does 6 patients a day if anyone wants to know, he also says his tech's all have experience of at least 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mick50 Posted November 2, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted November 2, 2018 34 minutes ago, Squidward said: And Dr. Cinik does 6 patients a day if anyone wants to know, he also says his tech's all have experience of at least 8 years. Dr clinic Clinic does seem to be closest comparison to Asmed although he has adopted the new model in Turkey of offering different packages one where Doc has no involvement apart form drawing the hair-line ,and a higher price where he does the incisions as well ,of course he is much cheaper ,seems to get good results it must be said . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted November 2, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) If your one choice is Nadimi, the other in turkey is Keser, HLC oder Kaan (former HLC) who all have a similiar approach as Nadimi. Kaan would also similiarly unknown as Nadimi? Edited November 2, 2018 by Gasthoerer 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted November 2, 2018 Administrators Share Posted November 2, 2018 So far, I’ve seen clean work for Dr. Nadimi, but I can’t honestly say I’ve seen many fully manifested results. However, she looks promising, I’m not aware of the other clinic, but one clinic is hands on and the other is tech driven. Both can offer good results, but if you’re looking to be a patient and not a number go with Nadimi. With that said, I’m not saying one is better than the other, it just depends on your goals and finances. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mrmane85 Posted January 8, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 Did you end up seeing Dr Nadimi in person @Squidward or have you made a decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Squidward Posted January 8, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 I had a Skype meeting with Nadimi, she seemed to really know what she was talking about and confident in her work, She really believes I will need no more than 1200 grafts to fill in my temples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted January 8, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) I am still stunned how you can end up with Nadimi and Cinik as your two last clinics?!?! Totally different approach. If 1200 FU for the temples are your goal, a nice clinic group could be: Nadimi (Konior), Baubac, Keser, Lupanzula, Hei(t)mann etc. All different clinics with similar approaches (almost no tech involvement) but different pricing due to location. Or maybe you can add HLC and Kaan. One of the cheapest alternative might be Demirsoy. Another approach would be hairlines specialist who use techs like: H&W, Rahal, Feriduni. But well, Nadimi seems very talented. Would like to see more results 🙂 Edited January 8, 2019 by Gasthoerer 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Squidward Posted January 9, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 9, 2019 Honestly Nadimi was the first to quote me such a low amount of grafts, I guess that makes a big difference, so I am actually considering some other Dr's now. My approach has always been to fill in the temples, but Cinik, and Erdogan both quoted me in the 2k' range, I am still waiting to hear back from a few clinics before I make my choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Squidward Posted January 14, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 14, 2019 I just got my quote back today from Dr. Rahal, I have heard a lot of good things about him, and his quote is for 1600 grafts, and it is in my range of being able to afford, with his guarantee and track record I am strongly leaning towards him, can anyone shed some further light on this Dr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RecessionProof Posted January 14, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted January 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, Squidward said: I just got my quote back today from Dr. Rahal, I have heard a lot of good things about him, and his quote is for 1600 grafts, and it is in my range of being able to afford, with his guarantee and track record I am strongly leaning towards him, can anyone shed some further light on this Dr? Both are excellent choices. Rahal is considered world class, probably on the more aggressive side, and you can see tons of his results on here and his site. Nadimi is newer and not as thoroughly documented, but all of the work I've seen by her so far has been great looking and natural. She was also trained by Konior and I'm pretty sure she follows his philosophy of doing most of the procedure herself (including graft placements), whereas most other doctors use technicians and aren't always as involved. https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/53836-2338-grafts-with-konior-hairline-restoration-fut/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Squidward Posted January 15, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 15, 2019 How involved is Rahal in the procedure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Squidward Posted January 24, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 24, 2019 So after all my consults, for his track record of results, ease of contact, (his patient advisor Aaron was so quick and helpful with responses) price, and the fact that my work is mostly around the hairline, I have decided to go with Dr. Rahal, made my deposit today, and in May I am heading to Ottawa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Markee Posted January 24, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted January 24, 2019 Good luck Squid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I hope you’re not talking about Aaron bugayong. I honestly hated dealing with that guy. Hands down most annoying person I ever dealt with in all my consults. Would call me constantly during work hours and when I didn’t answer he would ring again. Then would follow up with generic cut and paste marketing emails starting with “WE WONT GIVE UP ON YOU, WE WANT U TO GET YOUR HAIR BACK.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Squidward Posted January 24, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 24, 2019 haha no different Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member brickellmoto Posted January 25, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Squidward said: So after all my consults, for his track record of results, ease of contact, (his patient advisor Aaron was so quick and helpful with responses) price, and the fact that my work is mostly around the hairline, I have decided to go with Dr. Rahal, made my deposit today, and in May I am heading to Ottawa! i'm looking at rahal myself, in addition to others, but idk there's something holding me back. i just don't see enough patient reviews and detailed talk about his procedures, like you do with others. also, there's been a rep chasing me down for a consultation since visiting the site, (where as another doctor i've consulted with, straight up said we don't need your money lol). i know he's considered world renowned and recommended on here, but i just don't know, i've read mixed reviews. Edited January 25, 2019 by brickellmoto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Markee Posted January 25, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 hours ago, brickellmoto said: i'm looking at rahal myself, in addition to others, but idk there's something holding me back. i just don't see enough patient reviews and detailed talk about his procedures, like you do with others. also, there's been a rep chasing me down for a consultation since visiting the site, (where as another doctor i've consulted with, straight up said we don't need your money lol). i know he's considered world renowned and recommended on here, but i just don't know, i've read mixed reviews. You took the works right out my mouth hanging back waiting looking for more solid patient reviews or a better option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Squidward Posted January 25, 2019 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 25, 2019 What really sealed the deal for me is the growth guarantee, everyone knows any dr. can have a great, subpar, or even bad result, I just couldn't find myself pulling the trigger with that kind of money on a doc with no growth guarantee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mrmane85 Posted January 30, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) On 1/15/2019 at 10:00 AM, RecessionProof said: Both are excellent choices. Rahal is considered world class, probably on the more aggressive side, and you can see tons of his results on here and his site. Nadimi is newer and not as thoroughly documented, but all of the work I've seen by her so far has been great looking and natural. She was also trained by Konior and I'm pretty sure she follows his philosophy of doing most of the procedure herself (including graft placements), whereas most other doctors use technicians and aren't always as involved. I've been told that Nadimi also uses Koniors team when performing HT surgeries and the main technician has been with him for 20 years. I have a consult with her next week so I'll be able to confirm this, but if true that goes along way in helping to replicate great results. Edited January 30, 2019 by mrmane85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted January 30, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted January 30, 2019 8 hours ago, mrmane85 said: I've been told that Nadimi also uses Koniors team when performing HT surgeries and the main technician has been with him for 20 years. I have a consult with her next week so I'll be able to confirm this, but if true that goes along way in helping to replicate great results. Yeah she does. I was told this by the tech you refer to. 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mrmane85 Posted February 24, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2019 Yep, confirmed by Dr Nadimi during my Skype consult. Had a really good consult, gave me a lot of confidence that she is the right choice for my surgery. Will be doing FUE with her in 12 months time, 1500 via scalp and 500 via beard with 300 of these to placed into an old FUT scar. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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