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16 hours ago, munich said:

I don't think that this was the main goal. if yes then are 4500 grafts for the frontal third definitely to much. Especially the hairline should be  denser. 

Agree completly with you on this Munich! Ref. My comment above

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Agreed, there should be pictures of both environments, as people’s lives are spent in both settings.  I just wanted to point out that it is reasonable to hope for an HT that looks decent both ind

Although I understand what you’re getting at here, I would say that the pics he provided are in “normal lighting”, as people are routinely outside during daylight hours in their normal lives.   

Most balding people’s hair looks crap under harsh light. If I was going to stay inside and away from light bulbs I could’ve saved thousands and not needed a hair transplant ! 

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Here is preview of my hairline at little over 11 months after the surgery. The hairline is still quite weak and gappy. To be honest i dont expect any further thickness of transplanted grafts/hair. I will get back to my coordinator at Asmed after passing 12 month ( that will be in the mid of juli) mark to get their opinion. 

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1 hour ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

How does your hair look in normal lighting?

Although I understand what you’re getting at here, I would say that the pics he provided are in “normal lighting”, as people are routinely outside during daylight hours in their normal lives. 

 

Obviously outdoors/sunny lighting isn’t typically going to be as flattering a setting for an HT as indoor, non-overhead lighting. That doesn’t mean it isn’t “normal lighting”. And, wanting your HT to look natural when outside during the day is a reasonable expectation. 

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18 minutes ago, yesplease said:

Although I understand what you’re getting at here, I would say that the pics he provided are in “normal lighting”, as people are routinely outside during daylight hours in their normal lives. 

 

Obviously outdoors/sunny lighting isn’t typically going to be as flattering a setting for an HT as indoor, non-overhead lighting. That doesn’t mean it isn’t “normal lighting”. And, wanting your HT to look natural when outside during the day is a reasonable expectation. 

The vast majority of people work indoors, it’s a reasonable question to ask for pictures that reflect that.

There needs to be a combination of indoors and outdoors photographs, so we can see what his hair looks like in different circumstances/lighting.

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3 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

The vast majority of people work indoors, it’s a reasonable question to ask for pictures that reflect that.

There needs to be a combination of indoors and outdoors photographs, so we can see what his hair looks like in different circumstances/lighting.

Agreed, there should be pictures of both environments, as people’s lives are spent in both settings. 

I just wanted to point out that it is reasonable to hope for an HT that looks decent both indoors and outside. They are both “normal” conditions and you shouldn’t be expected to be satisfied with results that only look acceptable in the most optimal of conditions. 

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10 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

How does your hair look in normal lighting?

What is normal lightning ?

What if pics taken in "normal lightning"/one specific lightning look bit better? Does it mean ht is all of sudden success and we should ignore how it looks throughout the day.

I don't think it should matter as pictures taken before the ht are under harsh studio lights.

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3 hours ago, Kingbilla said:

What is normal lightning ?

What if pics taken in "normal lightning"/one specific lightning look bit better? Does it mean ht is all of sudden success and we should ignore how it looks throughout the day.

I don't think it should matter as pictures taken before the ht are under harsh studio lights.

Most balding people’s hair looks crap under harsh light. If I was going to stay inside and away from light bulbs I could’ve saved thousands and not needed a hair transplant ! 

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Any hair transplant  done properly should provide  a stand -alone outcome . I have noticed recently a lot of comments saying "well you will need a second procedure to add density to a gappy hair-line" etc as if this is normal.     ,but as I said a hair transplant done right should look natural and stand alone especially one year post op.

 

Regards lighting I can only speak for my own transplant ,in daylight/sunlight it looks great ,but in certain bright overhead bathroom lighting not so good ,but a bit of toppik and dermatch takes care of that anyway, I would imagine  anyone who was a high NW will notice that overhead bathroom lighting will make it look thinner than it does in normal everyday situations .  

  

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15 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

The vast majority of people work indoors, it’s a reasonable question to ask for pictures that reflect that.

There needs to be a combination of indoors and outdoors photographs, so we can see what his hair looks like in different circumstances/lighting.

I consider daylighting as a normal lighting and a hairtransplant successful which looks  equal  both under sun light and indoor light. 

 But to answer your quiries i wil upload some new pictures taken in indoor light both in wet and dry look. If you go through my pictures posted earlier on this thread, you will find them and which do not differ alot from situation right now.

And YES my hairline do look great if i stand under a zero watt bulb in a dark room. 

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23 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

How does your hair look in normal lighting?

Here are few more pictures taken inside of my house under «normal» lighting. Hope it clarifies any futher doubts. 

I have tried to be very honest and optimistic about my surgery outcome on my thread, but tbh now i dont expect any further improvement in my results. After 11 months of surgery from a top notch Clinic, with 4500 grafts i expected the results to be much better. 

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We both have absolutely identical results.. maybe we had the same "low-skill-level" techs. Two weeks ago I had a call with my asmed coordinator and they tried to convince me that I reached a very good result. After this I ask another clinic about their opinion and they said that I will need another 1000-1200 grafts in the frontal third. So it seems that I will reach a regrowth level of ca. 60-70%. In my opinion this isn't acceptable for the price what I paid for. 

Lately I have seen a lot more bad results from asmed, but I forgot that we present all our pictures only in very very bad light conditions.

They will offer you a free touch up. In best case you will save money...in the worst case you will lose some of your valuable donor reserves like in the first procedure.

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10 minutes ago, munich said:

We both have absolutely identical results.. maybe we had the same "low-skill-level" techs. Two weeks ago I had a call with my asmed coordinator and they tried to convince me that I reached a very good result. After this I ask another clinic about their opinion and they said that I will need another 1000-1200 grafts in the frontal third. So it seems that I will reach a regrowth level of ca. 60-70%. In my opinion this isn't acceptable for the price what I paid for. 

Lately I have seen a lot more bad results from asmed, but I forgot that we present all our pictures only in very very bad light conditions.

They will offer you a free touch up. In best case you will save money...in the worst case you will lose some of your valuable donor reserves like in the first procedure.

I really dont understand what good and bad lighting is? A result is either good or bad and looks same in all the conditions. A picture taken under day sunlight outside is not a bad lighting or harsh lighting. Its normal

On my thread i have tried to post pictures  under all conditions and in different looks(wet and dry). Dont know what more could one do to be more fair and honest in their review. 

 

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29 minutes ago, MHR84 said:

I really dont understand what good and bad lighting is? A result is either good or bad and looks same in all the conditions. A picture taken under day sunlight outside is not a bad lighting or harsh lighting. Its normal

On my thread i have tried to post pictures  under all conditions and in different looks(wet and dry). Dont know what more could one do to be more fair and honest in their review. 

 

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i hope I am wrong but your worries are the same as mine, mine is probably worse actually. 

Coorinator keeps saying I have time.m to improve. I’ve requested to talk to the Dr 

not sure what we can do. I assume we all went to the old clinic. How does the warranty work now that they have changed their working practices , have more surgeries a day and results have taken a plunge in quality ? 

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1 hour ago, MHR84 said:

Here are few more pictures taken inside of my house under «normal» lighting. Hope it clarifies any futher doubts. 

I have tried to be very honest and optimistic about my surgery outcome on my thread, but tbh now i dont expect any further improvement in my results. After 11 months of surgery from a top notch Clinic, with 4500 grafts i expected the results to be much better. 

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Thanks for providing different pictures. When presenting results it’s important to post different lighting, angles and conditions. We’re not always indoors and were not always outdoors. Do you mind posting a top down view picture with dry hair? 

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51 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Thanks for providing different pictures. When presenting results it’s important to post different lighting, angles and conditions. We’re not always indoors and were not always outdoors. Do you mind posting a top down view picture with dry hair? 

Here you go: Top down view

can also take some pictures in the daylight and post! Just let me know.

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Looks good in my opinion, there is a huge issue with guys expecting to have full density. I posted a thread a few months back showing how different my hair looks when it's wet in bright lights spread apart as opposed to styled regularly. I will try and find that thread.

 

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5 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Looks good in my opinion, there is a huge issue with guys expecting to have full density. I posted a thread a few months back showing how different my hair looks when it's wet in bright lights spread apart as opposed to styled regularly. I will try and find that thread.

 

Are you kidding me mate! Seriously this looks good to you. Am I blind or you looking someother thread. 

Dry hair will make hair look denser specially from top down view which you specifically asked for! 

And what about the pictures posted before. Don't you see thin gappy hairline there. Really curious what's your opinion about it.

Should this be the expected result after 4500 grafts and year of finestride use.

I genuinely think you guys need to take up these poor results with asmed rather than telling guys not expect fwhat they paid for and consumed their time and energy for. I am growing tired of this pattern of shit results from asmed and ppl being told silly stuff. 

He probably would be told 800 more grafts or to wait 4 more months like many others. xD ridiculous stuff going on here.

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@Melvin-Moderator Yeah melvin you are absolutely right 😂If someone is tall like shaq o' neal and he looks only down on the top of his dry head ... than it is a good result 😂😂 

I always thought you were one of us. Now have people have to deal  with such comments when they are dissatisfied and post honest pictures. Really weird that you are the only one who think it's a good result.

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Did you see the thread I posted? I am one of you, except I understand that hair transplants are an "illusion" not true density. Now, could the result look better? Yes, but is it horrible and a travesty? I honestly think a lot of guys will be disappointed with hair restoration in general if they expect to look like they never went bald in every situation i.e bright lights, wet hair etc.

That said, I am only giving my opinion. If you think this is a poor result than by all means that is your opinion.

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@Melvin-ModeratorOf course I saw your posted thread, but lets be really honest... Why we see this kind of pictures only from asmed patients in the last time? Not because they can't handle the reality that hair transplant is an illusion.. the real reason is that they are very dissatisfied with the density in the hairline area. For most of us its very difficult (maybe impossible) to style our hair like you in the video. 

I never said that he has an absolutely terrible result, but the quality for the price and a top surgeon doesn't fit together. For only 1000$ he could have the same (maybe better) result of a random clinic at the turkish hair mall. 

 

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You would also expect the transplanted area to have similar density all over . Of course there will be areas where the density isn’t as much as elsewhere, but I am seeing on a few cases density decent on one side and poor on the opposite . 

There should be better density in asmed compared to other clinics due to the high graft numbers (one of the reasons I went there)

how does the warranty work if they have now turned into a full blown mill and we don’t want to go back there ? 

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