Senior Member SWdan Posted August 14, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 12:11 PM, LordBaldwin said: See, here's the thing, though. There's a major difference between coming onto someone's thread in an attempt to provide support (since, as we all know, hair restoration is a stressful journey) and joining in the conversation with inflammatory language to make them feel worse. Kraistoff was uncertain and needed support and guidance...not for anyone else to use his result as a prop to bash a clinic against which they have a personal vendetta (these people know who they are). Obviously, we should be honest, but there are constructive ways of telling the truth that show sensitivity to the struggles of the individual/OP. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all" seems to apply. Basic rule of thumb? Use the same social skills you'd use if you were talking to the person face-to-face. If someone's result looks good to you, tell them, as I'm sure they'd appreciate it. If they don't look good to you, stay quiet and only make this opinion known if the OP asks for it (and do it in a way that's helpful, like a suggestion about how to improve the situation); for the purposes of determining whether or not a clinic is outputting good results, let the pictures speak for themselves. If people on this thread had been more sensitive to Kraistoff's needs and not their own, he wouldn't be asking to leave. I feel the exact same way. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Kraistoff Posted August 15, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 15, 2019 Hello all, i had another hair cut today and a blow dry and a good comb this photo is in direct sunlight with no concealer I realise that I must style my hair for a hair transplant to look how I expect. Might sound strange but I never used to style my hair I would just let it grow and be a mess , but you cannot let it be a mess with a hair transplant as it won’t look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member VicTNYC Posted August 15, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 15, 2019 Look real good. How long is your hair on top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member DEB1982 Posted August 15, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 15, 2019 Looks unreal mate! First Transplant: 5000 FUE grafts with Dr Koray Erdogan ASMED, December 2016 First Hair Transplant link: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185564-5000-grafts-fue-13th-14th-december-asmed-dr-erdogan.html Hair loss regime Propecia 1mg daily Saw Palmetto 450mg daily Biotin 1000ug daily MSM 1500mg daily Pumpkin Seed Oil 1000mg daily 1% Nizoral shampoo weekly Lasercomb x 3 weekly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Kraistoff Posted August 15, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 15, 2019 It’s just under 3cm on top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member VicTNYC Posted August 15, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, Kraistoff said: It’s just under 3cm on top Really? It looks much longer that 3cm on top...googled and that’s about 1.18-inch, to me it looks about 3-inches on front/top hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Craig2412 Posted August 15, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 15, 2019 Mate your hair looks awesome styled like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Kraistoff Posted August 15, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, VicTNYC said: Really? It looks much longer that 3cm on top...googled and that’s about 1.18-inch, to me it looks about 3-inches on front/top hmm It’s not 3 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted August 15, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 15, 2019 Looks fantastic , I’m glad you’re maximizing your results by styling it. Every hair transplant patient should do this. Why pay thousands of dollars and not try and make it look good? Never understood this. That said, if the imperfections bother you, by all means add a little density in those areas. Glad you’re already seeing things from a healthier perspective. Cheers 🍻 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Der3k7 Posted August 15, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) Dude it actually looks really good now you can't see your scalp and the line is solid. Definitely better than the results I got. Hopefully my warranty procedure is better in 3 months. This gives me more hope. Compared to where you came from that's a great improvement Edited August 15, 2019 by Der3k7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member VicTNYC Posted August 15, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, Kraistoff said: It’s not 3 inches Well if it’s not 3 inches on top then the density now looks much better when your hair is short and styled, and that’s a good thing. Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted August 15, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Kraistoff said: Hello all, i had another hair cut today and a blow dry and a good comb this photo is in direct sunlight with no concealer I realise that I must style my hair for a hair transplant to look how I expect. Might sound strange but I never used to style my hair I would just let it grow and be a mess , but you cannot let it be a mess with a hair transplant as it won’t look good Looks fantastic in these pics, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Kraistoff said: It’s not 3 inches I think your hair looks great in the styled pics but I’d agree there’s no way your hair is 3cm. If the stylist told u that it’s a lie. At least in the front it’s not from what I can see. I’d guess it’s 6cm in the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Kraistoff Posted August 16, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2019 I measured it last night and it’s actually 4.5cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Der3k7 Posted August 16, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Kraistoff said: I measured it last night and it’s actually 4.5cm It's not the size that matters... It's the motion of the ocean. 😉👌😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BjornBorg Posted August 16, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2019 You have found your sweetspot length and styling. That is also a part of the journey. My results - 2486 grafts FUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Kraistoff Posted August 17, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS no fiber , style with lifting paste since My last hair cut I feel like a complete £&@? for complaining about my result. It really has changed my life I don’t think I’ll bother filling mid scalp in at the moment, I’d rather keep the 4400 grafts I have remaining for future loss ! It’s actually good that it was planted at lower density at mid scalp, it would have been a waste to do it any denser as it doesn’t need it . I call it decent donor management Edited August 17, 2019 by Kraistoff 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Craig2412 Posted August 17, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 17, 2019 Looks slick 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted August 17, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 17, 2019 Looks like a home-run to me man, I agree, if you can style your hair and get away with looking like that why even bother adding more density. You may need those grafts for the crown some day. I think the single most important thing that isn't mentioned enough is the NATURALNESS! We get caught up in density, and it's definitely important, but how natural the hairline looks lis equally if not more important and your hairline looks so freakin natural it's quite amazing. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack B Nimble Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 11:53 AM, DEB1982 said: We are working with a limited number of grafts to provide an illusion of density. Illusion of density?. I'm new to this forum but the results I've seen on here from Erdogan don't look like "illusions" to me. If hair wasn't present beforehand in a certain area and it appears (and stays) after the procedure, then, by definition, its not an illusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack B Nimble Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 6:35 AM, Kraistoff said: I had another hair cut today and a blow dry and a good comb It looks good, friend. Pretty thick & wavy too. As @LordBaldwin stated, assessing results based on where you started and where you are at present is the proper approach. And, on that basis, your results are impressive. Your future plans and mid scalp comments make sense. Arguably, you still have about 7 more months for improvements. Happy for you man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member LordBaldwin Posted August 17, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Jack B Nimble said: Illusion of density?. I'm new to this forum but the results I've seen on here from Erdogan don't look like "illusions" to me. If hair wasn't present beforehand in a certain area and it appears (and stays) after the procedure, then, by definition, its not an illusion. Yep. It's not an illusion when you have more density than you did before the procedure in the balding area. I think what they're trying to say is that you have less hair on your head, total (taking into account harvesting of the donor area) and you still don't have the same native density you had before your hair loss started. The art of the successful transplant is balancing donor and recipient area densities enough so that neither appear thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Kraistoff Posted August 18, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Jack B Nimble said: Illusion of density?. I'm new to this forum but the results I've seen on here from Erdogan don't look like "illusions" to me. If hair wasn't present beforehand in a certain area and it appears (and stays) after the procedure, then, by definition, its not an illusion. They call it an illusion as you can make all parts look dense . If you don’t style your hair or brush it is a certain way it looks thin . If you brush it a certain way and shine light off the scalp it will look thin . I think my thread proves this. I have good photos like recent ones where I have the styling spot on, but I have posted many photos with my hair not styled , messed up and under very harsh lighting - and the result doesn’t look as good. That is what is meant by illusion you won’t get native density back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Kraistoff Posted August 20, 2019 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 20, 2019 Here are some more photos ! Just that little bit behind the hairline that needs to get a little more dense and I’ll be over the moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Der3k7 Posted August 20, 2019 Senior Member Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kraistoff said: Here are some more photos ! Just that little bit behind the hairline that needs to get a little more dense and I’ll be over the moon Hey it turned out well for you after all hopefully my touch up has better results this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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