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21 hours ago, hairlossPA said:

@kw877 @munich @MHR84 you all went to ASMED???

 

will admit these definitely leave a lot to be desired... but wait the 12 months. That's all the advice you'll get from the moderators and community until 12 months hit.

 

If people can afford touchups, I definitely agree with the previously stated advice of going to a more refined/hairline specialist. ASMED seems to have more high NW cases which can provide coverage very well, but not as much attention to detail around the hairline like stated in this thread and others.

 

Hang on...

yeah i went Asmed

here is my thread

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/52366-fue-4512-grafts-at-asmed-dr-erdogan/

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About splitting grafts. Lots of surgeons including mine mine consider splinting multi hair grafts to be a bad idea. So, sometimes surgeons (in this case techs) just do the best they can for their patient with what that have. Lot's of mediocre results here on this thread. Not horrible...no failures. But not amazing, that's for sure. I guess results are a strong word....most of this is not final results. Sit back and wait til a year and assess what is the issue. Could be think hair, not enough grafts, bad work, patient continuing to bald. 

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On 2/6/2019 at 11:59 PM, hairlossPA said:

@kw877 @munich @MHR84 you all went to ASMED???

 

will admit these definitely leave a lot to be desired... but wait the 12 months. That's all the advice you'll get from the moderators and community until 12 months hit.

 

If people can afford touchups, I definitely agree with the previously stated advice of going to a more refined/hairline specialist. ASMED seems to have more high NW cases which can provide coverage very well, but not as much attention to detail around the hairline like stated in this thread and others.

 

Hang on...

How is that an excuse? Even if you look past the hairline design and multigrafts in the hairline, the root issue here is that Asmed has terrible graft survival despite using inordinate number of grafts in very small areas.

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47 minutes ago, Payam said:

How is that an excuse? Even if you look past the hairline design and multigrafts in the hairline, the root issue here is that Asmed has terrible graft survival despite using inordinate number of grafts in very small areas.

That’s what I feel the issue is, grafts not surviving. With the amount of grafts in just hairlines I expected a lot more density. Not native, but still higher than what I and others have ended up with. I keep hoping time will make a difference but so far it hasn’t changed in months, and others like yourself who are further enough along to assess the HT as either successful or not, don’t seem to have improved so what hope do I have :(

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On 2/6/2019 at 8:56 PM, jonnyalex said:

This is very similar to my result from Asmed. They seem to have got it totally wrong with hairlines. I am happy with the rest of the work they did however. 

My advice to anyone is consider Asmed for big jobs, anything behind the hairline. For hairlines, you need a surgeon who does the entire thing himself, no tech's, just the artistry of the surgeon. Your hairline is what frames your face and makes the biggest difference to your appearance - don't let tech's do that. Also, don't try and convince your surgeon to lower your hairline too much, it will never look good. 

You'll have to pay more but you get what you pay for. 

That is sound advice. I've looked into transplants for a few years now and I've always got the impression ASMED are a good option for guy's with more extensive hair loss. More often than not, guys with that kind of hair loss are coming out the other end looking cosmetically better after a procedure at ASMED. Yes, refinement may be lacking in some cases, but overall the end result in these cases seem to leave the patient in a better position imo. Personally, if someone is looking to Turkey for surgery, for me it would be any case that is a NW3 and below, Dr Keser. Anything NW4-NW6, ASMED.

Totally agree with you on the point regarding lowering of hairlines. Recently seeing a few examples of young guys lowering their hairlines and makes me uneasy seeing this trend of guys committing 3000 odd grafts to lowering hairlines and filling in temple points. 

For me, this is almost going beyond the realms of hair restoration and sometimes feels as though guy's are after the perfect 'designer hairline and temple points', an ideal in their minds as to what they want to look like/hairstyle they want to achieve and I totally understand that thinking when a guy is younger. However sometimes there needs to be a trade off between what they want and whats best for them long term. I may be wrong, but that's just the impression I get.

Now if someone wants to go ahead with that, fair enough it's their choice but they need to do some thorough research and be consulting as many surgeons as possible. Even if a top surgeon is way out the budget, I'd be getting an opinion. Unfortunately, seeing as HT's are now so accessible and relatively affordable nowadays, sometimes feels guy's are maybe rushing into things and taking the plunge without arming themselves with the right/enough information.

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On 2/6/2019 at 3:56 PM, jonnyalex said:

This is very similar to my result from Asmed. They seem to have got it totally wrong with hairlines. I am happy with the rest of the work they did however. 

My advice to anyone is consider Asmed for big jobs, anything behind the hairline. For hairlines, you need a surgeon who does the entire thing himself, no tech's, just the artistry of the surgeon. Your hairline is what frames your face and makes the biggest difference to your appearance - don't let tech's do that. Also, don't try and convince your surgeon to lower your hairline too much, it will never look good. 

You'll have to pay more but you get what you pay for. 

Hi. Have you created a post of your progress?...is there a link you can post?

Thanks.

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On 2/11/2019 at 9:00 AM, VicTNYC said:

Hi. Have you created a post of your progress?...is there a link you can post?

Thanks.

I will try to provide some. I have recently said I was unhappy with the work he did, but having looked back at my before photos, it is hard to complain about a dodgy hairline when the rest the work was pretty great. 

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32 minutes ago, jonnyalex said:

I will try to provide some. I have recently said I was unhappy with the work he did, but having looked back at my before photos, it is hard to complain about a dodgy hairline when the rest the work was pretty great. 

Please do, it could be very helpful to share before, during, and after photos you may have that had you feeling unhappy then to feeling the work was as you say, pretty great.

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56 minutes ago, VicTNYC said:

Please do, it could be very helpful to share before, during, and after photos you may have that had you feeling unhappy then to feeling the work was as you say, pretty great.

I am unhappy only with the hairline. It is not noticeable to most people, but it bothers me. There is a very clear doll hair effect in real life, with 1 CM gaps in between the hairs. A combination of Dutasturide, Oral Minoxidl and a 4500 HT has served me well however as you can see from the photos. I need a higher quality camera to make the issue that bothers me very clear, but it is similar to the complaints posted on this thread. 

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7 minutes ago, jonnyalex said:

I am unhappy only with the hairline. It is not noticeable to most people, but it bothers me. There is a very clear doll hair effect in real life, with 1 CM gaps in between the hairs. A combination of Dutasturide, Oral Minoxidl and a 4500 HT has served me well however as you can see from the photos. I need a higher quality camera to make the issue that bothers me very clear, but it is similar to the complaints posted on this thread. 

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sfsef.jpg

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sasada.jpg

HT.jpg

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When did you have your surgery? Did you take up the matter with Asmed? What did they say? Too many questions but i am really worried about outcome of my surgery! Having same problem as yours, big gaps in the hair line 

 

btw do you know diameter of your hair

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Just now, MHR84 said:

When did you have your surgery? Did you take up the matter with Asmed? What did they say? Too many questions but i am really worried about outcome of my surgery! Having same problem as yours, big gaps in the hair line 

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4 years ago. 

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1 minute ago, jonnyalex said:

4 years ago. 

Can you share link of your thread? If you made one??? Did you take up the matter with the clinic?

 

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I didn't make one. To put it simply, the experience wasn't great, the results were good other than the hairline which was terrible. My face-time with the actual doctor, Koray Erdogan, was about 45 minutes. . . and no, I didn't take it up with them. He doesn't refund people, only sometimes agree's a repair. I don't want technicians touch my hairline ever again

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If you aren’t happy then you aren’t happy and I’m not going to dispute that but I think your hair in the second and third photo looks amazing. Looking at where you started I would say it is an amazing cosmetic improvement. Your frontal lock looks very dense. 

I like you wanted a little more density in the hairline. I guess i’ll find out what the outcome of mine is in a few months. Considering you are four years post op I personally think it’s looks great. 


First Transplant: 5000 FUE grafts with Dr Koray Erdogan ASMED, December 2016

 

First Hair Transplant link: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185564-5000-grafts-fue-13th-14th-december-asmed-dr-erdogan.html

 

 

Hair loss regime

 

Propecia 1mg daily

Saw Palmetto 450mg daily

Biotin 1000ug daily

MSM 1500mg daily

Pumpkin Seed Oil 1000mg daily

1% Nizoral shampoo weekly

Lasercomb x 3 weekly

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Just now, DEB1982 said:

If you aren’t happy then you aren’t happy and I’m not going to dispute that but I think your hair in the second and third photo looks amazing. Looking at where you started I would say it is an amazing cosmetic improvement. Your frontal lock looks very dense. 

I like you wanted a little more density in the hairline. I guess i’ll find out what the outcome of mine is in a few months. Considering you are four years post op I personally think it’s looks great. 

Yes, to be clear I am happy with everything but the hairline and the service in the clinic. Please be aware that Dutasturide and Oral Min had a hugely positive effect on my hair too. I'm going for 500 grafts with Keser.. I am hoping it is enough as the last thing I want is a moth-bitten donor .

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8 minutes ago, jonnyalex said:

I didn't make one. To put it simply, the experience wasn't great, the results were good other than the hairline which was terrible. My face-time with the actual doctor, Koray Erdogan, was about 45 minutes. . . and no, I didn't take it up with them. He doesn't refund people, only sometimes agree's a repair. I don't want technicians touch my hairline ever again

Bro, you take dut? How long have u been doing so? I wanna start taking it but damn afraid. Read some horror stories...

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1 minute ago, mosd said:

Bro, you take dut? How long have u been doing so? I wanna start taking it but damn afraid. Read some horror stories...

3 years. Let me tell you, in my case, it was WAY more effective than fin. Fin seemed to do nothing whatsoever for me. 

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1 minute ago, jonnyalex said:

3 years. Let me tell you, in my case, it was WAY more effective than fin. Fin seemed to do nothing whatsoever for me. 

can i pm you so this thread is on topic?

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@jonnyalex thanks for sharing your photos!

My honest opinion, I think your hair looks great, minus the obvious slight lack of density in the hairline, especially for 4-years post op and the medications are working great for you.

Good luck and good choice on choosing Keser for the hairline “touch-up” hope you make your own progress thread on the forum with it.

Thanks!

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