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3 minutes ago, Sydney1 said:

we can agree or disagree and leave it be, or we can keep going around in circles, we clearly do not agree and you have made up your mind, I wish you nothing but great results , i really do. I just pointed out the very clear fact that over the past 2 years satisfacation of results has clearly been declining, it is still above 3 and its a great, and you seem to be ok with that, and you have your assumptions about a mysterious X factor...... the analysis might need to get deeper homie. 

 

I appreciate the well wishes.

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You playing with fire here. The warning signs are shouting. This is not something you would want to chance. You only have one scalp and limited donar supply. 

From my own analysis i think Erdogan is one these doctors who doesnt actually care what the patients new hairline looks like after surgery aslong as the patient has had 5000 grafts placed.

Hair grafts are meant to be angled closely to the scalp to give a natural look. If angles are wrongly placed like some of the results on here you get a see thru hairline giving a low density look. This is a big scam in the hair restoration industry. By placing grafts at the wrong angle, requires more hair grafts overall per cm. More money for the doctor and clinic. Touch ups are calculated into the 2.5euro charge because they know they will have lots of unhappy patients. Thats a warning sign alone.

 

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4 minutes ago, ATM110 said:

Hair grafts are meant to be angled closely to the scalp to give a natural look. If angles are wrongly placed like some of the results on here you get a see thru hairline giving a low density look. This is a big scam in the hair restoration industry. By placing grafts at the wrong angle, requires more hair grafts overall per cm. More money for the doctor and clinic. Touch ups are calculated into the 2.5euro charge because they know they will have lots of unhappy patients. Thats a warning sign alone.

 

Do you have any foundation to this claim? I've never heard of this before.

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3 minutes ago, ATM110 said:

You playing with fire here. The warning signs are shouting. This is not something you would want to chance. You only have one scalp and limited donar supply. 

I think you chance it anytime you have a surgery with any surgeon.

3 minutes ago, ATM110 said:

From my own analysis i think Erdogan is one these doctors who doesnt actually care what the patients new hairline looks like after surgery aslong as the patient has had 5000 grafts placed.

Have you been to this clinic yourself?  Also, doesn't hair direction gradually change as a result of how it's styled over time?

3 minutes ago, ATM110 said:

Hair grafts are meant to be angled closely to the scalp to give a natural look. If angles are wrongly placed like some of the results on here you get a see thru hairline giving a low density look. This is a big scam in the hair restoration industry. By placing grafts at the wrong angle, requires more hair grafts overall per cm. More money for the doctor and clinic. Touch ups are calculated into the 2.5euro charge because they know they will have lots of unhappy patients. Thats a warning sign alone.

 

Can't really comment on the first part of this, as I've never heard it before.  As far as the pricing is concerned...um...would you say the same about Konior, who charges like 8 USD per graft?

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1 minute ago, LordBaldwin said:

Also, doesn't hair direction gradually change as a result of how it's styled over time?

I thought the same thing, and that you can train your hair to sit in a direction. It just takes time

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Nope that is not the case the hair graft will change slighlty over time by training the hair, if hair graft is vertically placed it will always give a offish un natural look no matter how long you train. Clinic and doctors will always say over time it will change but never does. They just get 1-2 years longer away from unhappy patient. By that time the patient gives up and moves on.

Phil any legitable honest doctor will tell you this. I can honestly tell you their is not many about. More grafts is more money.

Dont be fooled with pricing. It will cost you.

 

 

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1 minute ago, ATM110 said:

Nope that is not the case the hair graft will change slighlty over time by training the hair, if hair graft is vertically placed it will always give a offish un natural look no matter how long you train. Clinic and doctors will always say over time it will change but never does. They just get 1-2 years longer away from unhappy patient. By that time the patient gives up and moves on.

Phil any legitable honest doctor will tell you this. I can honestly tell you their is not many about. More grafts is more money.

Dont be fooled with pricing. It will cost you.

 

 

I'm honestly just curious ... if you can provide more info I'd appreciate it.

My own hair naturally sits up now after years of styling it that way, so much so that I have to use gel to push it down. So from personal experience I would believe that hair direction can be altered though styling. 

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16 minutes ago, ATM110 said:

Phil any legitable honest doctor will tell you this. I can honestly tell you their is not many about. More grafts is more money.

I'd be interested to hear where you heard this.

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Good luck on the upcoming surgery LordBaldwin; you've clearly researched and considered your options very carefully. Im still utterly impressed. I wish you amazing HT results

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