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On 2/14/2019 at 11:16 PM, xabi86 said:

Hi Payam,

Understand your disappointment totally. Will also take a look a the pictures that you post on the weekend.

Have you spoken to any other doctors to have a repair job? Dr Couto has some amazing results, shame he is not on this forum.

If you view the international forums, you'll see that Dr Couto is in fact very hit or miss. 

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Hey @Payam

Any update? Really curious especially after how things turning out with my procedure. Any ray of hope xD

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1 hour ago, Kingbilla said:

Hey @Payam

Any update? Really curious especially after how things turning out with my procedure. Any ray of hope xD

Yeah its about time mate

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@MHR84 @Kingbilla really sorry to keep you guys hanging, been dealing with some stuff in real life this past week so the update will have to wait until this weekend. I can pm you guys mobile pics, don't want to upload any more mobile photos here as mods have been second guessing them and claiming I'm deliberately making them look worse, also the digital camera shows the real unfiltered truth.

I'm sorry to crush your hopes like mine have been, but there has barely been any improvements in the past two months. I will take this horrible experience as a lesson in treading the murky waters of this business and the unscrupulous and unethical people who exist in it. I will also never relent on exposing clinics such as this who take inordinate risks to maximize profits, all at the expense of the poor guys who put their faith and trust in them.

Unfortunately you have some guys on here with decent progress who are completely blinded by the facts at hand and are fully immersed in the personality cult around Erdogan, but It would require olympic level mental gymnastics to not see that there is something very wrong with what is happening at Asmed currently. 

I will make an effort to make a large and detailed update this weekend with a digital camera like last time, again my apologies for leaving you hanging another week. 

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1 hour ago, Payam said:

@MHR84 @Kingbilla really sorry to keep you guys hanging, been dealing with some stuff in real life this past week so the update will have to wait until this weekend. I can pm you guys mobile pics, don't want to upload any more mobile photos here as mods have been second guessing them and claiming I'm deliberately making them look worse, also the digital camera shows the real unfiltered truth.

I'm sorry to crush your hopes like mine have been, but there has barely been any improvements in the past two months. I will take this horrible experience as a lesson in treading the murky waters of this business and the unscrupulous and unethical people who exist in it. I will also never relent on exposing clinics such as this who take inordinate risks to maximize profits, all at the expense of the poor guys who put their faith and trust in them.

Unfortunately you have some guys on here with decent progress who are completely blinded by the facts at hand and are fully immersed in the personality cult around Erdogan, but It would require olympic level mental gymnastics to not see that there is something very wrong with what is happening at Asmed currently. 

I will make an effort to make a large and detailed update this weekend with a digital camera like last time, again my apologies for leaving you hanging another week. 

Hi Payam be good if you could also take some pics from a more than  say just   a foot away sometimes showing pics  with more distance    can give a better overall impression of how the transplant looks ...of course close ups are good as well  ..if you can't get someone to take them for you ..you can use the timer .

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Hey Payam, 

could you please send me some progress pictures,too? I had my hair transplant with 3000 grafts also by asmed and my 6 month status looks similar to yours. My complete right Side shows very poor growth and the density in the frontal third is in some areas smaller then 10 Grafts per square centimeter.

 

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5 hours ago, Payam said:

@MHR84 @Kingbilla really sorry to keep you guys hanging, been dealing with some stuff in real life this past week so the update will have to wait until this weekend. I can pm you guys mobile pics, don't want to upload any more mobile photos here as mods have been second guessing them and claiming I'm deliberately making them look worse, also the digital camera shows the real unfiltered truth.

I'm sorry to crush your hopes like mine have been, but there has barely been any improvements in the past two months. I will take this horrible experience as a lesson in treading the murky waters of this business and the unscrupulous and unethical people who exist in it. I will also never relent on exposing clinics such as this who take inordinate risks to maximize profits, all at the expense of the poor guys who put their faith and trust in them.

Unfortunately you have some guys on here with decent progress who are completely blinded by the facts at hand and are fully immersed in the personality cult around Erdogan, but It would require olympic level mental gymnastics to not see that there is something very wrong with what is happening at Asmed currently. 

I will make an effort to make a large and detailed update this weekend with a digital camera like last time, again my apologies for leaving you hanging another week. 

Don’t listen to the doubters payam I’ve been following your progress from the beginning and the way you were treated at the start by a lot of people including mods, who were dismissing your claims and calling you a worrier was disgusting. You have every right to be upset and expose the shoddy work.

We are seeing more and more people from this clinic who are not satisfied with their result, something is going wrong 

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2 hours ago, PGDMMB said:

Don’t listen to the doubters payam I’ve been following your progress from the beginning and the way you were treated at the start by a lot of people including mods, who were dismissing your claims and calling you a worrier was disgusting. You have every right to be upset and expose the shoddy work.

We are seeing more and more people from this clinic who are not satisfied with their result, something is going wrong 

No, nobody is doubting payams intentions. Just asked him to make a update so we get to know his current status. Dont understand why are you getting so defensive on his behalf? And i think its quite a legit request as not any recent pictures have been posted from him

 

i m looking forward to more updates as he mentioned that he will be posting new pictures this weekend. Also asked him to PM. 

And to be honest i feel he should be regularly making updates in this thread as many of this forum members are following his thread. And also in regard to be fair to Asmed one should make regular updates

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26 minutes ago, MHR84 said:

No, nobody is doubting payams intentions. Just asked him to make a update so we get to know his current status. Dont understand why are you getting so defensive on his behalf? And i think its quite a legit request as not any recent pictures have been posted from him

 

i m looking forward to more updates as he mentioned that he will be posting new pictures this weekend. Also asked him to PM. 

And to be honest i feel he should be regularly making updates in this thread as many of this forum members are following his thread. And also in regard to be fair to Asmed one should make regular updates

Not talking about you talking about in the beginning of this thread 

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9 hours ago, munich said:

Hey Payam, 

could you please send me some progress pictures,too? I had my hair transplant with 3000 grafts also by asmed and my 6 month status looks similar to yours. My complete right Side shows very poor growth and the density in the frontal third is in some areas smaller then 10 Grafts per square centimeter.

 

Did you make any thread. If not can you please show us your pics. 

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On 2/16/2019 at 7:17 PM, jonnyalex said:

If you view the international forums, you'll see that Dr Couto is in fact very hit or miss. 

Hello mate - could please share those forums so that I can take a look at more of his results as you mentioned.

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I don't think the last 9 month photo looked that bad at all, I think things have been blown out of proportion. 

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Hey guys, really sorry for keeping you hanging but I have been dealing with some awful non hair-related shit in real life for the past month so I really couldn't find the time or willpower to do this properly, I took a new video in any case, here after a hair cut, 12 months: 

Compared to my 8th month:

I'm calling it failed at this point because it obviously is. I mean I'm not that poor guy Sanjar (I think that was his name?) but I don't really see how this could be considered anything other than failed at this point.. 

In any case really sorry for keeping you waiting and I will try to get you a proper one year update this week to also show the other side as well as the crown, hope the video will suffice until then

 

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Hey Payam

 

will you ask Asmed to rectify under the guarantee ? 

Has there been any comments from the clinic ?


 

 

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40 minutes ago, Payam said:

Hey guys, really sorry for keeping you hanging but I have been dealing with some awful non hair-related shit in real life for the past month so I really couldn't find the time or willpower to do this properly, I took a new video in any case, here after a hair cut, 12 months: 

Compared to my 8th month:

I'm calling it failed at this point because it obviously is. I mean I'm not that poor guy Sanjar (I think that was his name?) but I don't really see how this could be considered anything other than failed at this point.. 

In any case really sorry for keeping you waiting and I will try to get you a proper one year update this week to also show the other side as well as the crown, hope the video will suffice until then

 

Thanks for posting. Indeed that is failed by rectifiable so worry not

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If you look at your pre-op photos it looks like you have substantially more hair. The middle part of your head looks really thick in the video. If I was to part mine the way you have I would also be able to see my scalp. Perhaps not as much as yours and I'm not saying you should be happy if you aren't. 

It does seem that you are just focused on that specific area. Does that mean you consider the rest of the transplant a success and just this area a failure?? Be good to see a video of the entire head so we can see how it all looks. 


First Transplant: 5000 FUE grafts with Dr Koray Erdogan ASMED, December 2016

 

First Hair Transplant link: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185564-5000-grafts-fue-13th-14th-december-asmed-dr-erdogan.html

 

 

Hair loss regime

 

Propecia 1mg daily

Saw Palmetto 450mg daily

Biotin 1000ug daily

MSM 1500mg daily

Pumpkin Seed Oil 1000mg daily

1% Nizoral shampoo weekly

Lasercomb x 3 weekly

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And the clinic will say wait till 18 months no doubt. If they do . Tell them to not insult your intelligence contact i.ahrs and get the ball rolling in some sort of refund, use that money and go to a Dr. Who does all the work and has time for you. You have 1 chance now to sort this you need someone who's going to treat every remaining graft like gold and don't count on body hair it only grows so long it's not as simple as it seems.

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6 minutes ago, DEB1982 said:

If you look at your pre-op photos it looks like you have substantially more hair. The middle part of your head looks really thick in the video. If I was to part mine the way you have I would also be able to see my scalp. Perhaps not as much as yours and I'm not saying you should be happy if you aren't. 

It does seem that you are just focused on that specific area. Does that mean you consider the rest of the transplant a success and just this area a failure?? Be good to see a video of the entire head so we can see how it all looks. 

Are you being serious here? 

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6 minutes ago, jonnyalex said:

Are you being serious here? 

Look at his pre-op photos and then look at the thickness of hair that is swept across in the video. It looks really dense. I'm not saying that area he shows is satisfactory but I'm asking if this is the only area that he is unhappy with as it is the only area he presents on his video.

So I don't see what you are getting at? If I was showing the results, I would show different angles of my whole head. No?


First Transplant: 5000 FUE grafts with Dr Koray Erdogan ASMED, December 2016

 

First Hair Transplant link: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185564-5000-grafts-fue-13th-14th-december-asmed-dr-erdogan.html

 

 

Hair loss regime

 

Propecia 1mg daily

Saw Palmetto 450mg daily

Biotin 1000ug daily

MSM 1500mg daily

Pumpkin Seed Oil 1000mg daily

1% Nizoral shampoo weekly

Lasercomb x 3 weekly

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Payam, thanks for showing the video.  It legit shows concerns and i know you will be posting more updates in the days to come.  

Man oh man, you definitely can try to reach out to IAHRS or ISHRS but not sure how you will be taken.  Quite honestly, you should file with them but send that same exact copy of correspondence to the FTC titled under Marketing/Business Practices and Marketing Fraud.  Id urge anyone who has an issue with any clinic to do the same.  Federal prosecuters/investigators know how the game is played and how silencing occurs and or marketing misrepresentation or bias occurs due to business relationships as well.  The more information folks submit, the better it is for regulation of the industry.  You can file in Turkey to local boards but if doctors are part of US business entities, there is more power here via FTC.

lets see how it looks in photos a couple days from now.  Payam, i think majority is wishing you the best here.  This whole ordeal is no doubt not easy to go through. I think repair patients waiting to find a way to be repaired can feel the extreme pain.  It is very tough to go through all these things man.  Keep your head up.

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34 minutes ago, DEB1982 said:

If you look at your pre-op photos it looks like you have substantially more hair. The middle part of your head looks really thick in the video. If I was to part mine the way you have I would also be able to see my scalp. Perhaps not as much as yours and I'm not saying you should be happy if you aren't. 

It does seem that you are just focused on that specific area. Does that mean you consider the rest of the transplant a success and just this area a failure?? Be good to see a video of the entire head so we can see how it all looks. 

I agree with this, while that specific portion of the hairline may look sparse, the entire hairline was transplanted. I think it would be fair to show the entire result. The front, both sides and the crown. Also, to accurately assess the result we should be comparing your results now to how you looked pre-op. Payam, I know you have been dealing with some issues, but I am really interested to know what the entire result looks like.


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