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Hi all,

 

I want to perform FUE hair transplantation in Dr.Rahal clinic.

 

I have searched in the forum regarding FUE hair transplantation of Dr.Rahal but i did not find many posts. (only older post before 5-10 years).

 

Do you recommend on him by doing FUE HT in his clinic ?

 

If you know the most specialist doctor in FUE technique, i would glad to hear who is it.

 

If someone has done here FUE HT Rahal`s clinic in the recent years would glad to hear.

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You'll get varying opinions but imo Rahal is a good choice for fut I would not use him for fue. I think there are simply better fue options out there. Who I would say is better depends on your willingness to travel but you'll find better options within Canada, the US and Europe so how far are you willing to go

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Hi,

 

thanks for you answer.

 

Do you have names of doctors that are the best in FUE (i know that i will spend some money for the traveling if needed,but in the end i hope it worth that)

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I've personally PM'd patients who have had poor FUE results from Rahal's FUE. It seems like they can be a big hit or miss. One of the things i find inconsistent with the Rahal Clinic is that the technicians do the extractions.

If I was doing FUE, I would want someone who has done FUE for years and a doctor who can do the extractions themselves.

I would recommend Konrior

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I want to perform FUE hair transplantation in Dr.Rahal clinic.

 

 

you are not qualified to perform FUE hair transplantation ;)

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Hey stephcurry30,

 

Need to call you out of a few things. But before I do, a little about me

 

1) I've had three hair transplants over 15 years. My first was when FUE was "just" getting started. ---- was the player in town. And Arphy was the "voice" for younger guys. Vets here will know what I mean.

 

2) I'm a Rahal FUE patient - a happy Rahal patient. Dr. Rahal saved my life, literally. He repaired my hair transplant for free. Yes, for free over two years. I am forever in his debt.

 

3) I'm a repair patient (my life was literally put on hold after my HT was botched my a well-know doctor. At one point, I'll talk more about this.

 

4) I'm on Rogaine 5%, Proscar, Nizoral.

 

5) I'm not an employee of Rahal. But I do help Rahal will some marketing, web. So there is full disclosure on my end. I'll add to my signature.

 

Now what I need to call you out on...

 

1) Rahal's practice is mostly FUE. Yes patients still get strip. But most are FUE.

 

2) FUE results are consistent and high-quality. Period. The private PM's you talk about don't exist. Yes. You made it up.

 

3) I'm happy to debate, technician vs. doctor (and who does the extractions). But I also happen to know that most of the doctors who "say" they do the extracts, don't. That's a fact.

 

Though I really don't care who does personally. Why? It's the results that count.

 

And Rahal's FUE results are some of the best, period.

 

It's been a battle. A shiity hair transplant... Dr. Rahal fixing it... my life on hold after I was botched. So I take this a little personally. I know what's out there. The great docs from the shitty. The A-listers, from the B-listers.

 

I won't accuse you of being a shill. Though having been around the HT community for a bit now, I'm great at detecting "shots" like yours. Just enough to raise doubt.

 

What I mean is, stick to the facts.

 

I'll post my results soon. And more of my story.

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2) FUE results are consistent and high-quality. Period. The private PM's you talk about don't exist. Yes. You made it up.

.

 

I don't know what he's heard or not but I can tell you I've heard the Rahal fue horror stories as well, and talked to patients who have had botched fues on the forums so if he's making them up he's found a lot of people to play along and push the story along.

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Hey stephcurry30,

 

Need to call you out of a few things. But before I do, a little about me

 

1) I've had three hair transplants over 15 years. My first was when FUE was "just" getting started. ---- was the player in town. And Arphy was the "voice" for younger guys. Vets here will know what I mean.

 

2) I'm a Rahal FUE patient - a happy Rahal patient. Dr. Rahal saved my life, literally. He repaired my hair transplant for free. Yes, for free over two years. I am forever in his debt.

 

3) I'm a repair patient (my life was literally put on hold after my HT was botched my a well-know doctor. At one point, I'll talk more about this.

 

4) I'm on Rogaine 5%, Proscar, Nizoral.

 

5) I'm not an employee of Rahal. But I do help Rahal will some marketing, web. So there is full disclosure on my end. I'll add to my signature.

 

Now what I need to call you out on...

 

1) Rahal's practice is mostly FUE. Yes patients still get strip. But most are FUE.

 

2) FUE results are consistent and high-quality. Period. The private PM's you talk about don't exist. Yes. You made it up.

 

3) I'm happy to debate, technician vs. doctor (and who does the extractions). But I also happen to know that most of the doctors who "say" they do the extracts, don't. That's a fact.

 

Though I really don't care who does personally. Why? It's the results that count.

 

And Rahal's FUE results are some of the best, period.

 

It's been a battle. A shiity hair transplant... Dr. Rahal fixing it... my life on hold after I was botched. So I take this a little personally. I know what's out there. The great docs from the shitty. The A-listers, from the B-listers.

 

I won't accuse you of being a shill. Though having been around the HT community for a bit now, I'm great at detecting "shots" like yours. Just enough to raise doubt.

 

What I mean is, stick to the facts.

 

I'll post my results soon. And more of my story.

 

 

 

You are absolutely full of crap. Those private messages do exist. I’m part of them. and now it’s public because you have the balls to come on here as a Rahal rep and deny the people who’s lives Rahal has ruined. You just opened a can of worms of unhappy Rahal patients. You should’ve talked to your boss before you made a statement like that. Dr. Rahal put my life on hold for 2 years and Dr. Cooley did his absolute best to fix me. Don’t you dare prop Rahal up as some fue expert. There is hardly any physician oversight, and mike, the lead techncian is a butcher.

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The post above is categorically false. I'm one of the members of these "make believe" private messages whose life has been upended by Dr. Rahal. There are many others. Check with your boss the next time you decide to post lies. Don't even try to come back at me with accusations of me being disingenuous. You will open up a can of worms I'm sure your boss wants buried.

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The reputation out there is to go with Rahal for amazing FUT results but not for FUE.

 

I believe for FUE you should go elsewhere, Bisanga, Erdogan or Konior (if you can get the Dr. K booking & have the funds).

Best of luck.


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Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others

 

HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal

HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto

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The reputation out there is to go with Rahal for amazing FUT results but not for FUE.

 

I believe for FUE you should go elsewhere, Bisanga, Erdogan or Konior (if you can get the Dr. K booking & have the funds).

Best of luck.

 

This is accurate.

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Sorry guys. But a couple of unhappy patients does not mean majority of results are not great. It doesn't not work like that. Especially from years back.

 

I know first hand that most are... the majority are happy. Having been a repair patient myself (and the clinic leaving me dry), I know the difference between a doc who stands by his patients vs. a doc who does not.

 

... and that's my point. Not only does Rahal stand by his patients. His FUE is among the best.

 

Every A+ clinic will have some unhappy patients. Meaning the clinic will do everything right and the patient will still not get the results he/she hopes for.

 

... that's a fact. Not up for debate. If you're not willing to accept that fact. Don't get a hair transplant. Period.

How about this? I'll pay $10,000 to any clinic who comes forward and says they get it right 100% of time time. Consistent: that's the keyword here.

 

What's important is this... how did the clinic handle the patients concerns. In Dr. Rahal's case, amazing well. The patient is always right, be it a refund or touch-up. Does not matter. It's the patient that counts.

 

But to say that Rahal's FUE is not among the best is a lie - when the majority of patients are happy.

 

I can back this up with results. Lots of happy patients. Again a fact.

 

I'll go a step further... for hairlines, Dr. Rahal is #1. For FUE, he is by far the best in North America. I have some picks in Turkey, too.

 

Why do I say the above? I base this on 1) my results (compared to my previous HT), and 2) having seem 100's of FUE results in person.

 

Now if you want to debate "technical" - why you should choose one over another. Let's debate. I'm up for.

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p.s. I've seen great results from Koray, Feriduni, Lorenzo, Lupanzula, too.

 

p.p.s. Dr. Rahal and Koray, Feriduni, Lorenzo, Lupanzula share FUE tips all the time.

 

If you're comparing Rahal's FUE years ago to now... you need to learn how technically the procedure has advanced.

 

Donor management... punch size... magnification... keep... wow... sharp... dull. Let's talk technical.

 

Lets have a debate. But let's also stick to the facts.

 

p.p.p.s no shills allowed

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HairLossMentor, I will make sure to open the floodgates of unhappy Rahal FUE patients if you post one more absurd post like this again. I'm not sure who let you off your leash, but run back to your boss and ask him if I'm bluffing. Don't try me. Rahal and his lead technician Mike Lara have consistently over harvested patients' donors and I'll be happy to point people in the direction of a number of physicians who will corroborate this.

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Dr. Rahal is not even close to the best FUE surgeon in North America. He barely performs the procedure, beyond making incisions and designing the hairline. There is very little physician oversight with a Rahal FUE procedure, with his head technician Mike Lara, doing the bulk of the work. In most states, it is illegal for technicians to extract grafts or to make incisions in patients. You want to talk technical, let's talk about the turnover rate of Rahal technicians and where Mike was trained. What the mean extraction to FUE attempt ratio is. What holding solution he uses. Why he takes grafts from a dense compact region of the scalp as opposed to homogenizing the extraction pattern like Cooley, Bisanga, Baubac, Umar etc. Why he has a consistent pattern of over harvesting donor areas. Let's get Sean, Sharkman, Bridget Jones, The Flyer, Marco (FUT), etc to chime in here. A very quick search of Rahal bad results will reveal far more consistently bad results than most other top tier recommended physicians on this site. While I won't comment on the specifics of my case in public any longer, anyone can feel free to message my directly, and I'll be happy to speak with you. If you want an FUT, Rahal has produced some consistency good results, but there are still better options.

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Hi jbl2093,

 

Thanks for the questions. I'll need to confirm a few with Rahal. But answer the ones I know.

 

First, I get it man. You're angry at your result. I don't know the specifics. But based on your experience... years ago... you feel that Rahal is not consistent. When that's simply not true. Your situation, which shity, is not the norm.

 

Without knowing the specifics, I can 100% guarantee Rahal did the right thing. Be it refund, touch-up, whatever. That's who he is - ethical. Dr. Rahal stands behind all of his patients. Maybe he's too humble to say it. But I will. And for you to imply anything else is wrong.

 

I'm going to post hundreds of A+ FUE results soon - including my own. As with anything, results are what count. And i'll back what I say with results.

 

Now, you're questions:

 

Some good ones.

 

Looks like you might have been mislead. Most of the info you stated is not true. Some of your questions I can answer with exciting advancements.

 

let's talk about the turnover rate of Rahal technicians

 

There is no turnover. I know the team, personally. Most have been there 10+ years. Others 20+ years. There are only a few less than 2 years. And I think another (maybe two) less than 6 months - though they are in training. So you're 100% wrong about this.

 

What the mean extraction to FUE attempt ratio is.

 

Great question! There are 3 any clinic should measure. 1) Total, 2) Partial, 3) Tissue.

 

There is some debate in the FUE community that "partial" is OK. Even a skill which sets the pros from amateurs. Some also say that it's OK to leave a 1-hair (for example) so the donor area does not look thin.

 

As for Rahal's partial, it's under 3% - and measured "every case." It's also used to decide on the type of punch used during the case. If the patients skill is tough and partial transection is 4% for example - they will switch.

 

Total and tissue are even less. Less than strip actually. I don't know the #'s. But i'll get for you. And the #'s are not out of my ass. I'll ask Patient Care to pull some charts over the last year. Data is data - and #'s don't lie.

 

One thing I should point out here is 1) Rahal uses 8x magnification for extraction - the highest in North America.

 

What holding solution he uses.

 

Awesome question. A combination of "HypoThermosol and Adenosine Tri-Phosphate." The solution "per procedure" is around $800. A big investment other clinics don't. It's the same solution they use preserve organs for transplants.

 

Why he has a consistent pattern of over harvesting donor areas.

 

Have you heard of coverage value? More here

 

Dr. Rahal uses for every case. It was Dr. Lorenzo who created and shared. And prevents what you're talking about it. I'm not sure if it was used 3 years ago, as in your case. But it's standard now. And prevents what you're saying.

 

There is very little physician oversight

 

Not true. There are two FUE extractions: Miguel and Dr. Gibbons, Dr. Rahal.

 

Dr. Rahal decides on the punch to use, depth, etc. Starts the extractions, then monitors transection real-time. He also does all the incision, hairline design, etc. So he does majority of the case.

 

Dr. Gibbons also does extractions. But I don't really care who does them. I care about transection, plus experience. And you should too.

 

Since we are talking technical...

 

Dr. Rahal uses the smallest punches in North America. Most are .8. He also uses the highest magnification in North America. Plus uses sharp or WOW, depending on needs. KEEP for implanting - basically EVERYTHING you need to perform A+ FUE.

 

On top of that... he shares tips and travels to Turkey, spending time. Koray, Feriduni, Lorenzo all of the time.

 

What I'm getting at is... you're procedure was years ago. Things have changed.

 

How about this...

You have some great questions. How about visiting Rahal and seeing for yourself.

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Jbl2093 and stephcurry,

 

If you both wish to share your own personal experience, we encourage you to do so. However, to make statements that you know and have talked to many others (privately or publicly) that are NOT HAPPY with their results is grossly unfair. If a patient wishes to come forward and share their concerns or dissatisfaction, they are welcome to do so. But it's damaging to a physician's reputation to discuss alleged "poor" cases when the patient isn't here to discuss their concerns for themselves. If there are indeed so many patient reported concerns however, I'm surprised we haven't seen them here on this forum.

 

Again, please stick to sharing your own experiences.

 

That said, since you have brought up that there are so many "FUE horror stories" from Dr. Rahal, I now ask that you email me privately and prove it. You can email me at help@hairtransplantnetwork.com.

 

If you are genuine, you will have no problem sending me the detail because I can then investigate it and discuss these concerns with Dr. Rahal. If I don't get emails from either of you with proof of these FUE horror stories, I will assume your posts are not genuine.

 

Best Regards,

 

Bill


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Bill,

I believe that JBL2093 has already given you info on unhappy Rahal patients in a previous post;

 

"Why he has a consistent pattern of over harvesting donor areas. Let's get Sean, Sharkman, Bridget Jones, The Flyer, Marco (FUT), etc to chime in here."

 

 

I think most forum members who have been around for awhile are very much familiar with Sean's unfortunate experience with Dr Rahal.

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Bill,

I believe that JBL2093 has already given you info on unhappy Rahal patients in a previous post;

 

"Why he has a consistent pattern of over harvesting donor areas. Let's get Sean, Sharkman, Bridget Jones, The Flyer, Marco (FUT), etc to chime in here."

 

 

I think most forum members who have been around for awhile are very much familiar with Sean's unfortunate experience with Dr Rahal.

 

As a member of the HRN since 2010 I agree with this statement and have read these stories and posts.

 

If they have been edited, modified or deleted or if someone is trying to say these stories never existed in some type of coverup, then I'm here to attest to the fact that something very fishy is going on, at least previously such testimonials and patient accounts existed here on HRN.

 

Do your research carefully folks, especially when people are trying to cover up negatives about a certain clinic.


go dense or go home

 

Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others

 

HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal

HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto

(*indicates actual experience with doctor)

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My FUE result with Rahal is top. I wouldn't consider anyone else. In North America that is.

 

Since my disappearance and new role as a father, I'll say this. Keep in mind this is my observation.

 

"Why he has a consistent pattern of over harvesting donor areas. Let's get Sean, Sharkman, Bridget Jones, The Flyer, Marco (FUT), etc to chime in here."

 

Before my FUE Rahal I researched every clinic here and a couple in Canada. When I narrowed it down to Rahal, I researched the shit out of it. Spoke to patients, on and off this forum. Asked the right questions.

 

And my conclusion: Dr. Rahal does the best FUE in USA/CAN. I bet my head on it.

 

I also notice the same guys saying the same crap. Like "consistent pattern of over harvesting donor areas" yet they list strip patients.

 

Let's take,

 

- sharkman (no photos to back it up, and strip).

- sean, maybe expectation played a role. but did dr. rahal refund or pay for him to go somewhere else. Not sure which. But that's a class act.

- BridgetJones... these are comments from forum members,

BridgetJones, I really don't like to jump on an unsatisfied patient, but your write up and your photos don't synch up. Your hair looks just the way I would expect it to look after 1400 grafts from where you started.

What????

Your hair looks nice and I think that your HT is far from being a failure.

 

I also noticed that all of the patients are from years back. Not that it matters. When you use works like butcher, seems you have an agenda. I did my research. And you're all full of shit - in my humble opinion :) I'll share my results.

 

Doctor Rahal is the man. The BEST at hairlines and why I look forward to styling my hair in the morning. For fue. only two others I would consider.

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1) Rahal's practice is mostly FUE. Yes patients still get strip. But most are FUE.

 

 

 

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This wasn’t the case 2 years ago when I got my prouder dons with him. He was doing two a day, one usually strip, and the other FUE. The online Rahal account even posted on this site recently that the clinic performs about half and half. I’ll try track down that post.

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