1200 Fue hairband for $10,000 . Is it worth it ? Please advise

[Legend007]

Hi .. My surgery is in 3 weeks with a surgeon in Beverly Hills .. I’m ready to drive the 6 hours for the consultation n transplant same day during Christmas holiday . It’s my Christmas present to myself ..

I’m 38 . No known history of baldness in family .. brothers all have thick hair n Norwood 1 .im a Slow balder. Was a Norwood 1 last year .. this year a Norwood 2 .. even worse is all the hair on top has gotten really thin .. n the front has receded now.. just started taking propecia for almost 3 months .. I’m scared since all my top hair is thin , I might go balder later in life ..

But for now .. I want to fix my hairline n temples .. I have a big forehead so I always comb my hair forward to cover it.. but since I don’t have mucb hair on the hairline anymore it’s difficult to comb n look good ..

Anyone that has knowledge or have an opinion please help..

I’m planning on shaving the recepiment n implanting hair . 1 inch in height n 4.5 inches wide ..

1. Will the 1200 hair give me good density for that area?

2. Will I lose my native hair especially the forelock when I implant there . It’s really thin n I might get permanent shock loss?

3. What Norwood am I ? N what do u think I will be ?

4. Is it worse that my hair is thin all up top ( diffused ) but with less recession . Or someone with a lot of recession but thick hair up top . More successful with a transplant ..

5. Lastly should I wait for my hair to get worse , recede even more then have a bigger transplant ?

6. How does my crown n top look ? Is it heading into baldness ?

7. Also what questions should I ask my doctor when I email him this week .. I barely asked any questions when we had a video conference before ..

Thanks for help ..

..

[Spidey]

I think I speak for most people on here when I say, don't do it! Your hair looks like its in great shape.

[Legend007]

Thanks spidey .. I agree with you 6 months ago .. I wouldn’t imagine myself spending $10K for a hair transplant months ago .. but my hair has thinned out n the recession has made it hard to comb. . I know it’s cosmetic at the moment .. but my hair has been bothering me for the last two years .. n the Christmas season is the only chance I have to take to two weeks off to recover from a transplant .. if I don’t do it now I will have to wait till next Christmas to get it done .. that means another 1 year of not feeling confident with myself .. n another year of looking ugly while I wait for my transplant to grow in .. even if finasteride help my hair I won’t ever get the inch of strong hairline again .. right now I just have coverage of my scalp . But not good hairstyle .. if I do this .. at least I will have a strong hairline base to work with .. imma have to do it sooner or later .. so why not do it now right ? I just recently sold my house n made good money so I’m able to budget a hair transplant to feel confident in myself again . Also , I think my doctor agrees with u too .. since they haven’t contacted me n Stuff .. they don’t want to hard sell me. They want me to make my own decision ..

.. n actually seeing ur hair transplant spidey , is one of the reason I want to have my transplant .. you got great results with ur 1000k grafts .. that’s exactly what I want .. only thing is u are younger than me n ur native hair is still thick .. mines has thinned out a lot .. so it’s fine n flat .. not easy to comb .. so how has your transplant treating u ? U still like it ?

Anyone else have thoughts or can answer some of my questions ? Please respond .. I’m nervous , my transplant is coming up n I’m so unprepared ..

[Legend007]

First pic is me last year at 37 .. 2nd pic is me today at 38 .. my hair has gotten so thin n flat so quick .. my density is so gone . Feeling like I be bald in a few years .. is it just old age or MPB hitting me hard all of a sudden?

Last pic is my current donor .. it’s a lot of hair to work with ..

[Mountinvan]

Tis the season---treat yourself. Yes, your hair looks good.But can it look better? I think so in the hands of the right surgeon----and you can fix the areas that bother you. What's the downside? Cost and a few weeks of healing for long- term improvement, If there is no more balding, you will have just improved a maturing hairline. This is cosmetic surgery. Do what makes you feel good.

[Gasthoerer]

Cancel the surgery immediately and wait 9 more month to see if FIN works and the add MINOX.

 

If this doesn't work, than you can think for surgery.

[Rwethereyet]

I agree I would wait and see how you respond to the non surgical treatments fin, minoxidil etc. You need to give them time to work. It took me over 6 months to see the benefits. In the early stages you often look worse than before you started due to shedding. I also use ketoconazole shampoo twice a week and the hairmax lazer combe. I find they help but others do not.

 

Your hair looks pretty dam good for a guy of your age. I went through surgery 4 months ago and it's not a simple easy thing to go through its a big commitment both money and time. Have you read through people's write ups on there surgery to see what's involved? If I were you I would wait until i were more bald before surgery. I think you cover up the little balding you have well and no one would realise you're loosing your hair. I waited until I was struggling to cover up the balding (when I was well in to Norwood 3). You can see my story on my posts if you like.

 

I'm not you though and you have to make your own mind up the above is just my 2 cents worth.

[Rwethereyet]

One other thing, you probably think your hairloss is much worse than it is. When I told friends and family I was getting surgery they were surprised as they didn't think I was going bald. It wasn't until I pulled my hair back and they saw my receding hair line that they realised I was balding. I doubt anyone would look at you and think he's loosing his hair

[Mick50]

Who is the doc you're booked in with ? .,I would urge you to have consultations with other recommended on here ,I have seen guys with your comparatively minimal hair loss end up must worse after a transplant.

[BlessUp]

my opinion is you should get on finasteride and minoxidil and see if non surgical methods work first. their are potential risk of doing this the biggest would be permanent shockloss of your existing hair since your transplanting into area that already has bunch of hair. its supposedly a low risk but youll end up worse if it happens that before.

 

surgery should be your last option try non invasive stuff first. your hair look good imo your over thinking it.

 

also lets be real man you wont be bald in a few years that unreasonable assumption. if you were going to be nw 6 or 7 you would be their before 38. you prolly have a very minimal progression of mpb for your age. mpb can halt or slow down so just because you lose some hair doesnt mean your destine to be slick bald. people can bald to norwood 3,4,5 and stop their. if you had a aggro form of mpb youll know it long before your 38th birthday

[Legend007]

Hi everyone thanks for the support and thoughts ..Everyone’s opinion has been been appreciated.. n I can understand everyone’s point of view.. some days I wake up n feel like my hair is okay .. it’s tolerable .. sure it’s not thick n dense anymore .. but at least I have coverage n no bald spots .. even though it’s hard to comb n look good . But then again I’m already 38 . My hair is just catching up to my age .. most people would pay good money to get coverage ..

N yes I’ve tried rogaine , natural supplements n a laser cap . For the last six months .. it seemed to make it worse .. the rogaine especially .. I tried it on my hairline n temples . N it made the miniaturized hair thicker .. but also caused inflammation n dandruff . N made the surrounding hairs easier to fall out .. I can tell cuz when I tried to flick the dandruff off 3-4 hairs just came right off .. That scared the crap out of me .. so I stopped wasting time n got back on propecia 3 months ago .. I just returned my capillus laser cap , paid $799 for it .. with a 6 month warranty .. so I’m returning it n get my money back minus a 25% restocking fee .. I don’t know if it helped or hurt .. but my hair is worse now than it was 6 months ago.. must of been the shedding from rogaine . Check out the pics below .. first one is in July 20th 2017 .. n second one is today .. i was a Norwood one with thinning hair .. n now a Norwood 2 with even thinner hair .. that’s what scares me .. gosh hair can go so quick ..

.. I appreciate everyone for sharing their stories and thoughts of their hair loss .. I’m still open minded about my upcoming surgery .. lookin to hear more thoughts .. I got one week left before I change my mind n get my $1000 deposit back .

I respond back to some of your guys other questions later .. thanks for sharing ..

P.s notice how my hairline was thinning but still strong enough for me to comb it up in July .. n now when I comb it up its just flat .. 3rd pic is why .. cuz I lost an inch of my hairline from rogaine shed .. it’s like every time I try to do something for my hair .. it just makes it worse . That’s why I’m nervous of a transplant .. trying to make things better only to make it worse .. but gosh a transplant is the gold standard of improvement of your hair . So I’m still willing to take a chance .. cuz doing nothing is not good enough ..

[BlessUp]

To me you look fine in the pics man. Your 38 and you hair is better than avg person your age.

I mean if your deadset to get a transplant I recommend going for a minimum of 3 consultations to hear what the doctors feel about your case. Make sure you pic doctors that are Reputable and have to experience. The iahrs website is a good start along with personal customer reviews here.

 

Would you be willing to try finansteride for a year to see how you respond.

[Legend007]

Hi again .. thanks for the comments.. n concern

My transplant surgeon is with dr. Jae Pak / William rassman in Beverly Hills .. they are not on the recommended list of doctors but they know their stuff .. they are pioneers of the industry but a bit conservative which is fine with me since my procedure is small n I rather not have them Fuk up .. I want to lower my hairline and do my temporal points to make my forehead look smaller .. then for once in my life I can comb my hair up , instead of hiding behind my bangs .. .. I’m getting married next year to my 25 year old girlfriend .. that’s why I want to do my transplant now , so in October 2018 I be good to go . I look young right now , So no one can tell my tell true age .. if I let my hair recede to a Norwood 3 . I’m going to look my age . N there’s no way imma feel confident in myself to be with her .. confidence goes a long way.. that’s y I’ve always been able to date younger girls ..

Also I chose them because they will do a bulk measurement hair check . N miniaturization test to see where I’m balding .. to have a master plan in the future .. ideally if this transplant goes well .. I won’t need another until 5 years hopefully ? Then I will choose a cheaper doctor that’s top notch that’s on the recommended list of this site .. going international for my 2nd transplant to save money .. a couple months ago I felt very depressed .. I went to general doctor n dermatologist at kaiser .. I knew more about hair transplant than them .. I felt so sad .. felt like my hair is just falling out n no one to help me .. this website has given me a lot of hope n knowledge .. so now I have a game plan ..

please provide your comments n experience with your own hair loss or transplants .. thanks

[jjsrader]

Don't go to Rassman in Beverley Hills. There's a reason those two surgeons you wrote about are not recommended.

 

If I were you I would get a consultation with Gabel in Oregon and Hasson & Wong in Vancouver.

 

Dude, you have so much hair left - don't screw up the very front w/an inferior surgery.

 

What I would give for that native hair. Please listen to the guys on this message board w/alot of years behind them.

 

Get your deposit back and take your time w/this. Get back or stay on the finasteride minimum of 8 months and see where you are again without use of Nizoral and Rogaine and Laser.

 

Good luck.

[Legend007]

Yeah I hear u guys .. I’m getting doubts myself .. thought of having surgery is making me nervous .. what’s wrong with jae pak ? R they bad ? I couldn’t find any negative reviews bout them .. n honestly , the thought of having surgery then being stuck with future transplants really sucks .. hurts the wallet n time ..propecia seem to help .. hair fall has been a lot less .. I just don’t know still .. it be nice to have new hair ..

I’m not really a wait it out n just to do it later kinda person .. if I’m planning on doing something I rather do it now kinda guy ..

But yeah when I look in the mirror I don’t see someone that needs a transplant right now . Just someone that feels like a transplant will bring back 5 years of my youth .. so why not just do it now ? Propecia won’t give me back the hairline that I loss.

[JayLDD]

Yeah I hear u guys .. I’m getting doubts myself .. thought of having surgery is making me nervous .. what’s wrong with jae pak ? R they bad ? I couldn’t find any negative reviews bout them .. n honestly , the thought of having surgery then being stuck with future transplants really sucks .. hurts the wallet n time ..propecia seem to help .. hair fall has been a lot less .. I just don’t know still .. it be nice to have new hair ..

I’m not really a wait it out n just to do it later kinda person .. if I’m planning on doing something I rather do it now kinda guy ..

But yeah when I look in the mirror I don’t see someone that needs a transplant right now . Just someone that feels like a transplant will bring back 5 years of my youth .. so why not just do it now ? Propecia won’t give me back the hairline that I loss.

 

Keser in Ankara does some of the best work for small procedures. Look into him. Don't opt for Jae Pak, him and Rassman do shit work quite frankly and shit work for a ridiculously high price.

 

Like the others here I mirror that you don't really need it though. Your hair is great, not just for your age but in general.

[Legend007]

I did see the dermatologist at kaiser to get a prescription for prooecia 3 months ago .. the first thing he said to me when he first saw me, he said I was going to be bald . , like Bruce Willis .. I was like really is it that bad ? Im 38 n I have no known history of baldness in my family .. me n all 3 of my brothers are Norwood 1. I didn’t even think I had mPB I thought it was just my bad nutrition n me smoking n drinking all the time.. he’s a young doctor ,, a dermatologist with no hair loss .. he doesn’t specialize in hair .. dude didn’t even check my hair for miniaturization or do anything..when I told him I wanted a dht test before I started prophecia so I can have a baseline measurement to see if propecia is working for me after 1 year ... he said there is no dht test .. so I googled it for me him .. then he felt stupid .. n got me the test ..( which came out normal not high n not low .. same with my testosterone level , when I left his office he was like I’m the most knowledgeable patient he has that knows about hair .. in my mind I was like dude this is not what I want in a doctor .. u need to know more than what I can research online .. or don’t be my doctor n telling me imma be bald .. but yeah I can see where he’s coming from I’m having a lot of miniaturized hairs all up top n In the hairline .. I lost a lot of density in the past year .. but bald ? Like Bruce Willis , n Mr burns ?N why he got to say it so mean . .. that’s why I be feeling like imma be bald n started to look into a hair transplant ..

.. I also went for a hair consulation with the local doctor that had a 4 star review in my city .. I didn’t even get to speak with him .. had a 10 minute consultation with the sales manager that said yeah You thinning on top n tried to get me to try their artas robot 8.50$ graft n $1500 for PRP.. I got the heck out of there .. it was obvious they don’t care bout me , it was just the money ..they weren’t hair specialists, they just do it on the side ..their main business was facial treatments n boob jobs ..

... I had an online consultation with dr William Rassman , he didn’t rush me into a transplant n wanted me to get a face to face consultation first to do the hair check test n miniaturization test to see where I’m thinning n future hair loss will be n wanted me to be on prophecia first to prevent shock loss ..n also check out their open house to see results of their past patients . But I live 6 hours away.. since Rassman only does FUT , his partner Jae Pak does the FUE so he Pak would do the surgery . n when I talked to Dr. Pak he seemed like a straightforward guy .. when I said I wanted to do the artas robot .. he said I shouldn’t .. that manual FUE was better .. even though they could of made more moneh with the robot $8.50 for the Artas n $8 for the manual fue .. n they also hold patents on the robot .. they helped invented it .. that showed me they don’t need the extra money but rather have me get good results .. so I feel I can trust them with my hair .. I just don’t like that the techs do most the work he just draws the hairline n do the incisons..

I’ haven’t cut my hair for 3 months now so If I have my hair transplant now I can cover up the surgery easily by combing my hair forward n no one will know I had Surgery.. they also fit my schedule .. since I booked it 2 months ago n it’s not too far of a drive .. i don’t want to travel to far at the moment .. I be all by myself n it be a major hassle ..

.. if I were to go somewhere else .. Dr. Nader seems kool, he’s cheaper n does most of the work ..

[JayLDD]

I did see the dermatologist at kaiser to get a prescription for prooecia 3 months ago .. the first thing he said to me when he first saw me, he said I was going to be bald . , like Bruce Willis .. I was like really is it that bad ? Im 38 n I have no known history of baldness in my family .. me n all 3 of my brothers are Norwood 1. I didn’t even think I had mPB I thought it was just my bad nutrition n me smoking n drinking all the time.. he’s a young doctor ,, a dermatologist with no hair loss .. he doesn’t specialize in hair .. dude didn’t even check my hair for miniaturization or do anything..when I told him I wanted a dht test before I started prophecia so I can have a baseline measurement to see if propecia is working for me after 1 year ... he said there is no dht test .. so I googled it for me him .. then he felt stupid .. n got me the test ..( which came out normal not high n not low .. same with my testosterone level , when I left his office he was like I’m the most knowledgeable patient he has that knows about hair .. in my mind I was like dude this is not what I want in a doctor .. u need to know more than what I can research online .. or don’t be my doctor n telling me imma be bald .. but yeah I can see where he’s coming from I’m having a lot of miniaturized hairs all up top n In the hairline .. I lost a lot of density in the past year .. but bald ? Like Bruce Willis , n Mr burns ?N why he got to say it so mean . .. that’s why I be feeling like imma be bald n started to look into a hair transplant ..

.. I also went for a hair consulation with the local doctor that had a 4 star review in my city .. I didn’t even get to speak with him .. had a 10 minute consultation with the sales manager that said yeah You thinning on top n tried to get me to try their artas robot 8.50$ graft n $1500 for PRP.. I got the heck out of there .. it was obvious they don’t care bout me , it was just the money ..they weren’t hair specialists, they just do it on the side ..their main business was facial treatments n boob jobs ..

... I had an online consultation with dr William Rassman , he didn’t rush me into a transplant n wanted me to get a face to face consultation first to do the hair check test n miniaturization test to see where I’m thinning n future hair loss will be n wanted me to be on prophecia first to prevent shock loss ..n also check out their open house to see results of their past patients . But I live 6 hours away.. since Rassman only does FUT , his partner Jae Pak does the FUE so he Pak would do the surgery . n when I talked to Dr. Pak he seemed like a straightforward guy .. when I said I wanted to do the artas robot .. he said I shouldn’t .. that manual FUE was better .. even though they could of made more moneh with the robot $8.50 for the Artas n $8 for the manual fue .. n they also hold patents on the robot .. they helped invented it .. that showed me they don’t need the extra money but rather have me get good results .. so I feel I can trust them with my hair .. I just don’t like that the techs do most the work he just draws the hairline n do the incisons..

I’ haven’t cut my hair for 3 months now so If I have my hair transplant now I can cover up the surgery easily by combing my hair forward n no one will know I had Surgery.. they also fit my schedule .. since I booked it 2 months ago n it’s not too far of a drive .. i don’t want to travel to far at the moment .. I be all by myself n it be a major hassle ..

.. if I were to go somewhere else .. Dr. Nader seems kool, he’s cheaper n does most of the work ..

 

You're are very, very bad at picking surgeons. Trust people here who have experience. Look at Feriduni, Hasson, and especially Keser in Turkey. You're already in a very good situation, go to that idiot Pak and it's likely you will look worse than you started off with.

[Legend007]

So yeah my main question is .. it’s not bout which doctor I should go to ..

But will 1200 follicular units at the hairline improve my hair .. or is the trauma too much n cause more hair loss ? I think with propecia it will thicken up the hair up top .. n with the hair transplant it will recover my hairline .. right now I don’t worry bout the money .. I sold my house made good money .. I want to treat myself ..n I don’t really care bout the miniaturized hair at the hairline .. they don’t grow long anymore so I have gaps in my hair when I comb it forward ..which makes me feel insecure ..I don’t care if they get shockoss n fall out I rather have new thicker hair transplanted in that area .. it’s rather should I wait for it to be totally bald at the temples so they don’t kill the blood supply of my transplanted hair.. or Will it be okay to transplant hair into there .. n if the native hairs survive then it will just look like I have more density n won’t need a 2nd transplant for many years to come .5-7 years ..

[Legend007]

I’m going to transplant In that area .. it’s my plan.. n lower the hairline a bit n do the temporal points ..

[JayLDD]

So yeah my main question is .. it’s not bout which doctor I should go to ..

But will 1200 follicular units at the hairline improve my hair .. or is the trauma too much n cause more hair loss ? I think with propecia it will thicken up the hair up top .. n with the hair transplant it will recover my hairline .. right now I don’t worry bout the money .. I sold my house made good money .. I want to treat myself ..n I don’t really care bout the miniaturized hair at the hairline .. they don’t grow long anymore so I have gaps in my hair when I comb it forward ..which makes me feel insecure ..I don’t care if they get shockoss n fall out I rather have new thicker hair transplanted in that area .. it’s rather should I wait for it to be totally bald at the temples so they don’t kill the blood supply of my transplanted hair.. or Will it be okay to transplant hair into there .. n if the native hairs survive then it will just look like I have more density n won’t need a 2nd transplant for many years to come .5-7 years ..

 

Go to a good doctor like Keser, Feriduni or Hasson and get the surgery and you will likely get a good result. Go to one of the shitty doctors you keep bringing up and you will almost definitely get a mediocre or bad result. End of story.

 

If you feel so strongly you should get the surgery, but don't be ignorant and go to a shitty doctor just because you're unwilling to accept new information. It's not about price either, you can pay $20 per graft it isn't going to get you a better result than with the doctors I mentioned.

 

Pak and Rassman are behind the times and you will regret it if you go there, especially because you require a dense packed hairline procedure with a high yield or else you may look worse than you began. Stop asking stupid questions and listen.

[Legend007]

Okay fine , I will reconsider a new surgeon .. n wait it out for propecia for a year to see if my hair thickens up .. then I might either go to Canada for hasson n Wong . Or Nader in Mexico, I don’t want to travel too far . But want to get good money value n excellent results .. surgery is a big deal .. .. I also have a Feeling my hairline won’t be as dense as I want going to Jae pak .. therefore $10k won’t be worth it .. so I have one more week .. to decide . Anyone else has opinions ? Besides which doctor I should use .. am I just wasting time not getting a transplant now .. only knowing I will need one soon .. either way I know I will get a transplant either now or next year .. n also why is doctor Rassman not on the list anymore ? He was on The recommended list before .. did they just decide not to pay the fee or they had bad work done ?

[Legend007]

I’m going to email them this weekend n ask for more details about their procedure n what they expect to achieve . N if I feel comfortable with them then imma go for it .. if not I’m going to ask for my deposit back and wait to see if proprecia is working good enough for me to wait till next Christmas to book with someone else..

[Legend007]

I really want to hear from others that had a transplant already .. n r they happy with it ? was it worth it ?

[jjsrader]

Jeez - pay ATTENTION! Although I really dislike JeanLDD 'cause he is such an anal prick - he knows his doctor info!

 

Dude - behind your vellous frontal hairline you have really nice terminal long thick hair. You would have to go with someone who can dense pack big time.

 

Have a consult in Los Angeles w/Dr. Baubac

 

Oh - and take a valium. How can your fiance deal with you? ; )