Dr Konior price. Should I do it?

[Cap88]

Hey guys, first time user here. I just got a price offer from Dr. Konior for a 3000 graft FUT procedure. He wants $18,500 for it. I also checked the Shapiro website, and it seems like they will do it for $14,000.

 

I like Dr. Konior and his results, but the price is quite steep. What do you guys think I should do?

 

edit: I decided to go with Dr. Konior as he offered to do it for his old fee, since that is what we had discussed about a year ago. I think that was very honorable of him.

Edited August 22, 2017 by Cap88

[UKLad81]

Hi Cap88, I'm not sure about Shapiro as I have not researched him as much as I have Dr Konior but i think you've made a great choice. His work, his dedication and his results are amazing. I'm sure others would agree as well. You wont be disappointed.

 

I'm also looking to meet him in person for a consultation next month.

 

Just out of curiosity, the $18,500 quote was that unshaved procedure?

[Cap88]

Hi UKLad81, I believe that was with a shaved graft zone.

[Dr. Glenn Charles]

Both doctors you mentioned do very high quality work. So whoever you decide to go with will be a good decision. Just have realistic expectations, Live healthy and be patient.

[Transhair]

Did Konior raise his price?

I wanted to go to him for my eventual repair but this may have completely priced me out

[Castillo]

$18500 for 3000 grafts! :eek::eek:

[Bill - Seemiller]

Well based on my calculations, it seems like the price has gone up however, her transplant surgery is an elective procedure. And Dr. Konior is one of the best just as Dr. Shapiro is. So regardless of price, I would say do it because you're making a lifelong assessment and you're selecting one of the best.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

[Castillo]

U can get a 3000 ufs Fue hair transplant for a half of price in Europe!

Not low cost, a reputable clinic!

[goodwally]

U can get a 3000 ufs Fue hair transplant for a half of price in Europe!

Not low cost, a reputable clinic!

 

Agreed. European dr.s are cheaper and better quality than US drs. Apart from Europe try turkish drs too. Seen good quality work from them and theyre cheaper than Eurpoean too.

[mav23100gunther]

Agreed. European dr.s are cheaper and better quality than US drs. Apart from Europe try turkish drs too. Seen good quality work from them and theyre cheaper than Eurpoean too.

 

You lost me at better quality. Although I agree the procedure is cheaper in Europe, I'd ask if you can name a European surgeon who is better quality than Dr Konior or Dr Shapiro?

 

If the OP can afford the cost of Konior, then my advice is not to let costs drive the choice of surgeon. If he lands at Dr Konior being the best choice quality wise, then that's the answer.

[Castillo]

You lost me at better quality. Although I agree the procedure is cheaper in Europe, I'd ask if you can name a European surgeon who is better quality than Dr Konior or Dr Shapiro?

 

If the OP can afford the cost of Konior, then my advice is not to let costs drive the choice of surgeon. If he lands at Dr Konior being the best choice quality wise, then that's the answer.

 

Is not to hard to answer your question!! im not from USA, i always watching these forum and the spanish forum!

 

Doctor konior and shapiro are top notch surgeons definitely!

 

But answering your question.... which European doctor is better and cheaper than konior? Is my personal opinion.....and FUE not FUT

 

1- Doctor Freitas from Spain.

2- Doctor Maras from Cyprus

3- Doctor Keser From turkey

 

The cost of a hair transplant in the United States is too high, nowadays have appeared very good doctors with affordable prices for many people.

[mav23100gunther]

Is not to hard to answer your question!! im not from USA, i always watching these forum and the spanish forum!

 

Doctor konior and shapiro are top notch surgeons definitely!

 

But answering your question.... which European doctor is better and cheaper than konior? Is my personal opinion.....and FUE not FUT

 

1- Doctor Freitas from Spain.

2- Doctor Maras from Cyprus

3- Doctor Keser From turkey

 

The cost of a hair transplant in the United States is too high, nowadays have appeared very good doctors with affordable prices for many people.

 

The OP was talking FUT, so that's the basis for my question. You will have a tough time arguing that European surgeons are of higher quality than Konior and Shapiro. I also only asked about better. I did not ask about who is cheaper. Now if we are talking FUE, then I actually am of the opinion that one could find FUE surgeons in Europe equal to and perhaps better than those of the US - and a lot cheaper too. When I one day get stripped out, I will definitely strongly consider Europe with the likes of Lorenzo, Erdogan and Ferudini.

[goodwally]

Although I agree the procedure is cheaper in Europe, I'd ask if you can name a European surgeon who is better quality than Dr Konior or Dr Shapiro?

 

Dr. Couto from Spain!!! The best !!!

[HarryHonolulu]

Exactly -

US doctors might give you less “wow” results but that’s because they are preserving your donor area for future transplants and waiting to see how your hair loss progresses.

 

5000 grafts in one swoop a la Erdogan scares me because it doesn’t leave almost any donor hair

[mikeyhwk]

Exactly -

US doctors might give you less “wow” results but that’s because they are preserving your donor area for future transplants and waiting to see how your hair loss progresses.

 

5000 grafts in one swoop a la Erdogan scares me because it doesn’t leave almost any donor hair

 

so the Euro docs who get better results aren't looking out for patients donors or futures, that's what you'd like us to believe? Dr Lorenzo, Bisanga, Feriduni, Couto, DeFreitas, Keser are leaving wakes of mangled donors and patients hooped in their future progression??? not even close... They get less wow results in the us cause they're not as good across the board as the Euro docs. You got maybe 2 docs in the us who can match Euro fue results at best. These Euro docs aren't using numbers outside the numbers the American docs are and the donor areas are immaculate and they are all (the ones mentioned) highly ethical docs.

 

Even Erdogan, who uses higher graft counts right off the bat than most docs, have you read his patient reports? do you see how often the patients getting these large counts still have huge numbers in the bank, almost universally. The doctor takes big numbers because he can get big numbers. Lorenzo and Erdogan have set the standard among fue docs in their ability to maximize grafts. I've found that many American docs are taking a we'll see approach as to how many grafts they can get, they have a ball park idea but they can't be sure, they play it safe cause they're not sure...as the procedures roll along that number clears up as the visual makes it clear for them, that's why you see so often when somebody asks in a patient report how many grafts did you doc say you have left, they'll quote a number and then the next procedure they were able to draw out 1500 more than they thought...the docs figuring it out on the fly... but with the coverage value system, Erdogan and Lorenzo know from jump what they can get and they plan with those numbers in mind so it isn't as reckless as you're thinking it is. It just sounds scarier to you because he's comfortable jumping in higher than another doc may be.

 

I'm speaking strictly fue here.

[HarryHonolulu]

You make some very interesting points and it obviously sounds like you have experience.

 

I would love an FUE surgeon that does great, subtle work - and when I looked at Erdogan I just didn’t see that in many of his documented cases. Especially when compared to Konior. If there is a Konior-level FUE doctor out there I would love to meet him- unfortunately many of the euro docs I looked at aren’t very refined

 

so the Euro docs who get better results aren't looking out for patients donors or futures, that's what you'd like us to believe? Dr Lorenzo, Bisanga, Feriduni, Couto, DeFreitas, Keser are leaving wakes of mangled donors and patients hooped in their future progression??? not even close... They get less wow results in the us cause they're not as good across the board as the Euro docs. You got maybe 2 docs in the us who can match Euro fue results at best. These Euro docs aren't using numbers outside the numbers the American docs are and the donor areas are immaculate and they are all (the ones mentioned) highly ethical docs.

 

Even Erdogan, who uses higher graft counts right off the bat than most docs, have you read his patient reports? do you see how often the patients getting these large counts still have huge numbers in the bank, almost universally. The doctor takes big numbers because he can get big numbers. Lorenzo and Erdogan have set the standard among fue docs in their ability to maximize grafts. I've found that many American docs are taking a we'll see approach as to how many grafts they can get, they have a ball park idea but they can't be sure, they play it safe cause they're not sure...as the procedures roll along that number clears up as the visual makes it clear for them, that's why you see so often when somebody asks in a patient report how many grafts did you doc say you have left, they'll quote a number and then the next procedure they were able to draw out 1500 more than they thought...the docs figuring it out on the fly... but with the coverage value system, Erdogan and Lorenzo know from jump what they can get and they plan with those numbers in mind so it isn't as reckless as you're thinking it is. It just sounds scarier to you because he's comfortable jumping in higher than another doc may be.

 

I'm speaking strictly fue here.

[mikeyhwk]

You make some very interesting points and it obviously sounds like you have experience.

 

I would love an FUE surgeon that does great, subtle work - and when I looked at Erdogan I just didn’t see that in many of his documented cases. Especially when compared to Konior. If there is a Konior-level FUE doctor out there I would love to meet him- unfortunately many of the euro docs I looked at aren’t very refined

 

You have to look into clinics that have that model...Dr Konior isn't the doc you'd go to if you needed mega session work via fue...and you don't go to Erdogan if you just want to fine tune your hairline. Erdogans clinic can get you to a very good hairline from your starting point but if it doesn't get you all the way you may need to bring in a closer to finish the work. A number of us have talked about the idea that there isn't a best doctor but there could be a best doctor for your particular needs. If you're a nw 5 and you need to cover a lot of real estate and make sure it grows and want it done via fue who better to go to than Erdogan...if you end up at a nw 2.5 after one run with him and just need to finish it off, maybe you don't head back to him but go to a Konior type and end up with the best of both worlds, coverage + refinement at a savings. If you're asking me who I think are doctors similar to Koniors approach in Europe. Dr Keser who has the exact same approach, entirely hands on, stick and place and sticks to nw 3 type cases. Dr Pekkiner is the same as well, stick and place, hands on, he's newer on the scene but a name you'll be hearing a lot in a few years i suspect. Dr DeFreitas in Spain, his hairline work is immaculate.

[Gasthoerer]

Mikehawk is on point here. You need a clinic which suits you case. There is not the "best clinic".

 

If you are looking for hairline specialist in europe, I throw in Heitmann from switzerland.

He was associated with Feriduni (who I believe also performed the transplant of Heitmann himself) and does everything by himself. Disadvantage: Waiting list is very long and switzerland is expensive ...

[Speegs]

Konior is a spectacular doc in high demand, so you have to weigh if he's worth the wait and cost to you or if you want to explore other good doctors with greater availability and less expensive pricing, the choice is ultimately up to you.

 

But whatever you do don't let price be the absolute final determination of what you decide, you in large part get what you pay for, so weigh the prices of elite doctors against each other (and there truthfully are only a handful) but never let a low price from an unknown commodity enter the equation.

 

I can speak very highly of Dr. Konior as he is a very close and respected collegue of Dr. Gabel, who I trusted with my procedures, and can whole heartedly recommend you consult with either of these fantastic surgeons with full confidence.

[razzy]

Some good points made in this thread.

 

I agree with the comments regarding Dr. Konior. He does amazing work! Perfectionist.

[mrmane85]

Hey guys, I was quoted $17,000 for 2000 grafts via FUT. Does this seem right? I have had an FUT in the past, so this would include scar revision but I was under the impression that a 2nd FUT would automatically include this unless creating a 2nd scar is what would generally happen?

I want to go with Dr Konior but $8.50 per graft for FUT seems really high...

[TrixGlendevon]

1 hour ago, mrmane85 said:

I want to go with Dr Konior but $8.50 per graft for FUT seems really high...

Because it is.....

[Triple7]

There are 3 different doctors doing transplants at the Shapiro clinic and I am going to guess that all results from there are not alike. I would research the particular doctor that would be performing the surgery and not just the clinic. Dr. Konior also has Dr. Nadimi working at his clinic but it sounds like your price quote is with Dr. Konior. 

[Markee]

Might want to consider Rahal $6 a graph $4.25 a graph for anything over 2500 graphs plus all future graphs at the $4.25 a graph prices

Plus what makes this even sweeter is that this all in Canadian dollars so if your in US $6 Canadian = $4.52 USD  not a bad deal like half of what Konior gets 

[Spanker]

59 minutes ago, Markee said:

Might want to consider Rahal $6 a graph $4.25 a graph for anything over 2500 graphs plus all future graphs at the $4.25 a graph prices

Plus what makes this even sweeter is that this all in Canadian dollars so if your in US $6 Canadian = $4.52 USD  not a bad deal like half of what Konior gets 

My understanding is that Rahal pricing is USD for Americans. Someone who has had surgery with him have to confirm.