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The whole idea for me getting a hair transplant was to have nice hairline to frame my face and correct the receding temples. It took 2 years of researching a doctor to finally choose Dr Erdogan - I choose him based on previous work and was happy he could do the job.

 

I just feel the hair transplant i have received is not to the standard i thought it would be, it is to the fact that hair has grown and i have hair on my head, but the actual design of my new hairline and temples to frame face and how it stands up in harsh light is not quite as good

 

Hair transplants are meant to be undetectable if done correctly.

 

It may just need a touch up to correct problems so awaiting Asmed response with a date for live consultation.

 

people throw around the term "undetectable" with regards to hair transplants - and while a modern HT in the hands of a skilled surgeon can come out being undetectable, its never the same as what nature gave us and NEVER truly "undetectable" to someone with a trained eye ..... that's the real standard

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Post better pictures.

 

Preferably pulling your hair back gently enough to expose the hairline but not flatten the hair.

 

I can see your concern. Front looks see through around an inch in.

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it defiantly looks like im wearing a hair piece which has receeded. just not happy!!!

 

still awaiting response from asmed.

 

i have uploaded a few more pictures

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looks good to me man... 7k for 3k grafts is a good price. I may have missed it, but how old are you. The last thing you want is to use up all your donor hair to have a teenage hairline. Your hairline does not look like it has receded, but age appropriate. 99.9% of people won't even notice. The .1% that do notice, is you! All the replies here saying that the results are decent to good, and these are people that KNOW you had something done.

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Sorry to hear that you're feeling this way. But quite frankly, judging by some of the photos you posted, your hair looks really good.

 

However, I know everyone's opinion and expectations regarding their procedure vary. I hope everything works out for you.

 

 

 

 

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Thinking about possibly getting repair work to my new hairline how many grafts would it take to make hairline more natural? at the moment as soon as i expose hairline where it is so dense at 70cm2 it looks as if im wearing something on my head. looking to get rid of the uniform hairline and have more naturalness to it, only concerns are when i had hairline lowered i think its now 6.5cm above eyes would this be a problem? recommendations best doctor for repair work with natural finish?

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do you have a response from Asmed? you are not the first unhappy customers from ASMED, i think you are second this month, check with Hamburger, i hope will not rise the complains here.What everybody should undestand is in photos looks better then in real life. face to face it may look un natural. please let us know if you find a doctor to take over Dr. Koray.Most of patients they will go back to Asmed for touch up.

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Preferably pulling your hair back gently enough to expose the hairline but not flatten the hair.

 

I can see your concern. Front looks see through around an inch in.

 

 

I agree with the above comment.

 

I also think the fact that others have stated on here that the results look, "Great!" illustrates a clear difference in aesthetic acceptability. Moreover, the suggestion that the onus of patient satisfaction falls ultimately solely on the patient is morally and ethically abhorrent.

 

It is a simple thing for a doctor's office to say, "This is what you can expect: a lower hairline that is thinner in density than the rest of your hair and may not prove satisfactory, especially in direct or harsh light. A second procedure may well be required to fill in the density towards a more satisfactory outcome. Some patients have expressed concern over coarse or wiry hairs or even a pluggy hairline. Or, conversely, you may be totally satisfied with the outcome on the first try. Here are some photos of various outcomes."

 

I left my initial consultation with a brochure that promised a natural result with reassurances from the doctor with no mention regarding aesthetic limits of hair surgery. I went home and tried to find out more info online but didn't see much that I found applicable to my situation at the time (I think there's much more info now online) and so felt fairly comfortable after my consultation with the doctor and the brochure. Even if I had found more info online, I'm not sure I would have known what to look for in contrast to now that I've been through 2 surgeries. As a final point, when someone like Spanker, whose opinion and input I generally value greatly, says this is a great outcome, where do novices seeking out information find similarly experienced people who can provide a counter to say, "It's a good outcome, but look here and note the aesthetic limitations, so consider this before you undergo the procedure." For me it is not a satisfactory outcome. It's a good transplant, but aesthetically it fails to satisfy.

 

I will say HT0416 that Dr. Konior has suggested using nape hair to soften hairlines - a somewhat controversial position as others feel that nape hair is not as reliable as hair from the standard donor region. Still, I think it's worth considering. At the very least, added density I do believe will improve the aesthetic appearance, but I think you will still be disappointed by the coarseness/caliber of the transplanted hairs at the hairline unless you can use soft hairs like nape hair.

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The failure in this case is patient education/ expectations. The transplant is to today's standards.

 

Actually, this is Spanker's words regarding the outcome of the transplant. Spanker does not actually say it is great. When taking an hour to type a well thought out response at 2 in the morning, remembering exactly what others have posted sometimes can be a bit tricky.

 

Sorry if I misrepresented your sentiments, Spanker!

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I also think the fact that others have stated on here that the results look, "Great!" illustrates a clear difference in aesthetic acceptability.

 

As you are right in general, you are wrong here IMO.

You agree that the front looks see through...the TO seeking to reduce (!) the hairline density and make it more uneven.

 

From what the pics show, this is a successfull result. Could it be more soft...maybe. But this is not what this particular clinic is know for. For the way the TO wears his hair it is not an issue anyway. It clearly (!) does not look like a wig.

 

This discussion of out of proportion for such a result. Maybe anothe type of Dr than a hariloss specialist is recommended here.

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I agree with the above comment.

 

I also think the fact that others have stated on here that the results look, "Great!" illustrates a clear difference in aesthetic acceptability. Moreover, the suggestion that the onus of patient satisfaction falls ultimately solely on the patient is morally and ethically abhorrent.

 

It is a simple thing for a doctor's office to say, "This is what you can expect: a lower hairline that is thinner in density than the rest of your hair and may not prove satisfactory, especially in direct or harsh light. A second procedure may well be required to fill in the density towards a more satisfactory outcome. Some patients have expressed concern over coarse or wiry hairs or even a pluggy hairline. Or, conversely, you may be totally satisfied with the outcome on the first try. Here are some photos of various outcomes."

 

I left my initial consultation with a brochure that promised a natural result with reassurances from the doctor with no mention regarding aesthetic limits of hair surgery. I went home and tried to find out more info online but didn't see much that I found applicable to my situation at the time (I think there's much more info now online) and so felt fairly comfortable after my consultation with the doctor and the brochure. Even if I had found more info online, I'm not sure I would have known what to look for in contrast to now that I've been through 2 surgeries. As a final point, when someone like Spanker, whose opinion and input I generally value greatly, says this is a great outcome, where do novices seeking out information find similarly experienced people who can provide a counter to say, "It's a good outcome, but look here and note the aesthetic limitations, so consider this before you undergo the procedure." For me it is not a satisfactory outcome. It's a good transplant, but aesthetically it fails to satisfy.

 

I will say HT0416 that Dr. Konior has suggested using nape hair to soften hairlines - a somewhat controversial position as others feel that nape hair is not as reliable as hair from the standard donor region. Still, I think it's worth considering. At the very least, added density I do believe will improve the aesthetic appearance, but I think you will still be disappointed by the coarseness/caliber of the transplanted hairs at the hairline unless you can use soft hairs like nape hair.

 

You don't actually say what the issue is though. Guarantee if he posted these same photos from a Belgian or Spanish surgeon you wouldn't be saying that because quite frankly its 100% baseless unless your expectations are way off the mark, which by the sounds of things they appear to be.

 

You say it's wrong for a doctor to admit that transplants aren't a magical cure-all, and then that your own doctor basically promised the world and it would be perfectly natural acting like this is a better alternative. Makes absolutely no sense. Are you honestly naive enough to believe that it is possible to achieve the same density and hair texture of the natural hairs prior to hairloss? This is just silly.

 

"It's a good transplant, but aesthetically it fails to satisfy."

 

What does this mean though? I don't think the hairline design is perfect, however Koray looks over it twice, including before and after the hair is shaved. He specifically asks for input, as do the patient assistants. He isn't a child, this result is consistent with other work from top surgeons and Koray, if he didn't like his hairlines he could have looked elsewhere and more importantly he had the ability to offer input, which he didn't. He even said he wasn't happy about the design so asked his assistant but made no comment on it himself. He also says he didn't say anything because he didn't know anything about how it should look, but as soon as it was created he magically knew perfectly well he wasn't happy. On top of this earlier in the thread he says he can see through it and it doesn't stand up to harsh lighting, yet in the last page he says its so dense that it looks like he is wearing something on his head. Huh?

 

Come on, this guy was a problem patient waiting to happen. Red flags galore.

 

"where do novices seeking out information find similarly experienced people who can provide a counter"

 

If you don't like it, choose a different surgeon. The nape hair option is a bad one because typically they are well known to be less stable in regards to miniaturisation than the rest of the donor which you admit yourself. Very few doctors dispute this, which is why they typically avoid this. You can't get hairline hair to place in the hairline once you've lost it to begin with so it will never be as natural as pre-hairloss. Some people have significant differences in hair texture, thickness and colour in separate parts of the scalp. This can't magically be fixed by a surgeon.

 

On top of this OP still doesn't post clear pre-ops despite being asked in multiple posts. Why does he hide the situation if he's so adamant that he has a problem? The reason is obvious.

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Honestly mate your hair looks really good and most blokes would be delighted to have hair like that.

 

What I will say however, is that the hairline is overly straight, which gives an unnatural appearance. This is typical of Erdogans hairline designs from what I have seen. Usually surgeons prefer to stagger the hairline slightly to make it look more natural.

 

If you really wanted to, you could get a couple of hundred grafts into the hairline to stagger it a little.


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Do u realize how dense n thick ur hairline is ? U had 3000 grafts , which means u were at least a Norwood 3 to 4..

U lucky to get that kind of hair in one procedure ..

I’m a Norwood 1.5 heading to a Norwood 2 n 38 years old .. haven’t had any surgery but thinking about it .. I’m trying to get back my density to around what u got now .. be grateful n stop trippin.. u lucky u didn’t get a bad transplant or low yield , u barely spent Any money n got a full head of hair ..

Dude I’m bout to spend $10,000 in the United States for around 1200 grafts on my hairline n it still won’t look as thick as urs.. don’t jinx urself n get greedy . Be appreciative u got a great result ..

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Oh yeah one more thing.. the doctor can give u hair .. but it’s up to u to know how to style it n make it work for u .. sorry if i comin off kinda negative .. but after reading other people’s experience on here that had failed transplants or didn’t get the yield they want , n paid twice as much as u n yet they didn’t complain , they just want a solution . N hoping for a better outcome the second time around. N . u over here complaining about a great result . With thick ass hair that u didn’t had before .. kinda makes me upset . Of course it’s not going to be perfect .. but u got a lot of yield with a good hairline at a cheap price from a top notch doctor .. what more u want ? Comb ur hair better n make it work for u ..

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UPDATE -

 

Sorry about the lack of activity from my side. Since i wrote my last post 6 months ago (16 months post op) i thought that was my final result. Since then i can honestly say texture of hair has got a lot better. I have stopped using Alpecin shampoo as i think that was one of the main reasons i was disliking my new hair due to it making hair look different colour. Before my transplant i never used!!! I stopped taking fin at 1 year then resumed it for 1 month at 15 months. Both occasions I had many side of effects. Stopped taking since i do see odd hair in sink and shower in morning.

 

Overall I would say i am alot happier with my hair transplant from dr erdogan!!!!

 

Rating 7/10 (with a little touch up to hairline would improve rating to a solid 10)

Touch up would let me expose hairline.

 

Before my hair transplant i had never had any surgery done before, i was un prepared for the journey. It's not a easy journey so many ups and downs, months disliking hair the way it looks. If you thinking about getting a hair transplant be prepared of the rocky journey and dont expect a full result till 2 years like doctor recommends even if hair has grown. hair grafts changed alot over the months!!!!

 

Also it took me a while to style hair differently.

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i had a 3000grafts fue hair transplant done 16 months ago in Turkey. I was told when i had it done i was a suitable candidate because i had really thick hair and lots of donor supply. i was happy to get it done on these terms and because i was receding.

 

when i turnt up in turkey i was warmly welcomed when i turnt up at the clinic, i then sat down with doctor and he showed me hair line examples of past patients that would fit my face. all past ops looked really good and natural. i explained to him what i wanted a natural hairline that didn't show i was receding. he drew me a hairline which he explained was best for my face. not knowing to much on shapes of hairlines apart from just wanted to fill my receding areas up i went along with this. before i went into surgery the next morning, i asked my english translator if my hairline looked alright and assured me it was all good as i doubts on the way it looked i went along with it - i had the surgery.

 

after 2 months post op i noticed my left temple area was far back to my right side so i contacted the clinic to ask why. they said i needed to wait till the 8 month mark to see if it it grows out.

 

i waited to the 8 month mark no change. doubting each month on the way the hairline and temples looked.

 

hair started to fill my frontal and temples slowly after that.

 

after the hair filled and started to become dense. i was in my bathroom one evening as i had the light on i looked in the mirror and i could see the light shining down on to my scalp through the new hair transplants hair which looked really thin and wiry which i could count individual hairs when having hair slicked back also i could see a round redish circle when the new hairs were transplanted. i contacted the clinic and sent photos, they assured me everything is ok with hair transplant and that i have nothing to worry about also i should wait till 15 months mark for hair to mature.

 

15 month mark came i looked in the mirror my hairline still looked un-natural and too straight oddly wonky making head look square, my left sided temple is further back to my right side, temples both look oddly designed looking un-neutral, hair cant cope against harsh light when its not flat, i can see a round circle on forehead. hair is unmanageable to style as new hair looks way different to original - just not happy.

 

i have contacted clinic at the 16 month which took time to finally get hold off as all numbers were not getting connected , finally managed to get through to english translator through whatsapp to ask if they had seen my email at 16 month mark and what they think, they assured me everything is ok and that my hair transplant was one of the good results coming from the clinic.

 

i feel upset at this current stage as i have had to go through 16 months looking like ive had a serious illness to then see my results which im not too happy with.

 

pictures don't show the true reflection of my points as i recently found out pictures do hair transplants justice in terms of looking more natural.

 

i just feel spending ?7k on a hair transplant with a recommended clinic with one of the best doctors from this site i should at least be able to pleased with my new hairline and slick my hair back, instead due to the new transplant hair with look un-natural and thin i am unable to style how i want it.

 

am i expecting too much?

 

No you are not. After paying that much you are entitled to atleast this much. You should really take some action against this. It seems like they strung you along and now you have been hoodwinked.

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