Do you seriously believe that in next 5 even 10 years new treatment will be release?

[ffar1989]

I am fallowing this subject for over 10 years and scenario seems the same over and over. “5 years from now” is typical story is ever told.

 

Aderans for example. Everyone was excited about it, so huge promises like now Replicel, Histogen or Follicia is promising. And it have failed and produce a …wigs But no pictures, no results shown(or if, very, very poor one) how can you be positive about it??

 

 

Takashi Tsuji did not present anything except experiment on mice’s and some theory.

 

I wish that I would be wrong, but fact is that no even average progress was done since Finasteride or Regaine.

[voxman]

If someone was hoping and holding off in 2007 for a miracle treatment in 10 years, they're still balding in 2017.

[ffar1989]

Truth, but that's not the point.

Edited August 9, 2017 by ffar1989

[Spanker]

PRP with A cell may be an improvement. FUE has gotten much better in the last 10 years. I don't think there will be a cure, but there continued to be advancement.

Edited August 14, 2017 by Spanker

[ffar1989]

Can I ask you, in what way FUE is getting better? As far as I remember Rahal or Hasson&Wong, were great ages ago already.

Edited August 12, 2017 by ffar1989

[mattj]

I like to think that I've been around this scene for a long time (which I have ) but FUE has been around even longer. It isn't by any means a new procedure and there have been improvements over the past ten years. Only small improvements, but improvements all the same.

[Bill - Seemiller]

Ffar,

 

Well I think that's a good question. And to start, I think there is a difference between released and invented. I believe there either is or likely will be something much better out there that can completely stop hair loss in its tracks or even regrow hair much more effectively than Propecia and Rogaine. But just because it exists, doesn't mean that it will ever be released to the public.

 

There are many reasons for that but in my opinion, it all comes down to money. Think about it, do you really think that they haven't invented an alternative fuel to gasoline that would run much cleaner, affectively and cheaper? Of course they have. But gasoline companies, who are many have stocks in will ultimately be illuminated and therefore, leaving a lot of people without jobs and in the poorhouse. And while I don't like to see people lose jobs, the fact that our environment will be in much better shape and this would likely create jobs as well, the people in power to invest in gasoline stocks are more concerned about their own wallets and usually buy out these potential he better fuels so that they can never be released

 

Now whether or not that happens in the hair restoration world, I would like to think not but I do suspect that we may be further along if there were someone with power in this profession working to stop it. After all, a cure for hair loss no more need for a hair transplant surgery, no more need for pharmaceuticals such as Propecia Rogaine, etc. that's a lot of people affected, and when pharmaceuticals begin to lose money, that's when action is taken to prevent progress all in the name of staying rich.

 

I realize that these are conspiracy type serious however, think about what we've been told. We've been told that hair multiplication and stem cell related were only 10 years away from being released however, it seems like we are still being told that and have been being told that for the last 20 years or longer. Will it ever happen? I believe so however, it's going to likely take a lot longer then projected so who knows when that'll be.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

[TakingThePlunge]

I'm not big into conspiracy theories either but I think there's a strong possibility that what Bill has proposed could be an obstacle to the availability of any future cure. We live in a society based on a subscription model. We subscribe to Netflix, ISPs, cell phone data packages, software upgrades and, like it or not, many of us subscribe to medical health by having to take long-term prescriptions for any number of ailments.

 

I don't think permanent solutions are financially desirable in the medical field. We don't seem to cure as much as we treat these days.

 

Who knows? I quit waiting for a cure or even better solutions years ago. At my age and with my hair, I'm pretty good to go for the duration.

[pkipling]

I'm no "flat earth conspiracy theorist" either, but I'm all aboard the conspiracy theory train when it comes to medicine. It's a business that's unfortunately driven by money, and as Bill and David pointed out, there's a lot more money to be made from treating diseases/ailments/etc. than there is from curing them. So while there may be some mild advances made over the next 10 years, I wouldn't hold my breathe for an outright cure or anything game changing.

[Gasthoerer]

Most conspiracy theories are nonsense!

 

If someone (=one company) finds a "cure", either permanent or non-permanent (= you would have to continuously take the medicine), this company would earn a mountain of cash. Probably would be the biggest company in the world for years to come.

 

The problem is that medicine is no real science yet, cause we do not understand much about the human body still nowadays. Most treatments from penicillin to Viagra to finasterid and minoxidil are found by coincidence (side effects of the actual purpose or just luck). Therefore we can have a cure tomorrow or in 50 years.

 

If you want to look in to conspiracy: In case someone will treat birth defects (and hairloss is sth similar) prenatal than the benefit of a cure will go down dramatically over time. Hence, no one will do research any more. We will die old and bald...

[ArochaAngel4247]

If a company had a "cure" they would be making crazy money selling it. If I had it- I would love to sell it. Sounds greedy, but who would not want to be rich? I've been hoping since 1999, seen many highly marketed products come and go. I suspect we will see more products come along with a "scientific breakthrough." I don't subscribe to conspiracy theory, too much greed would not allow it to stand.

 

ArochaAngel4247

[mattj]

If a cure is found, it would be the result of a huge amount of time and money by the pharmaceutical company. It doesn't make sense for them to then withhold that treatment and deny themselves the huge profits.

[Theodpliske8711]

It's less that there are vested interests in keeping the status quo, but just that it's more costly to find a new and more permanent solution than just keeping the current cash-cow going. Investments in new medicine or new forms of treatment are extremely expensive and have uncertain long-term profit scenarios. Besides doing the 10+ years or research, then comes the issue of trying to get it through the proper regulatory bodies that give it a stamp of approval and then getting it to market. Getting that kind of funding is really tough. It's much easier to just stick to what is happening now and get your money that way. It's a big problem in the health care industry and in many others as well (like in the energy field). Yes, vested interests can get in the way often, but I wouldn't think of a cabal of people coming together to block something; they really don't have to since the hill to climb to get something new is so high to begin with.

 

This is all the standard short-term profit margins getting in the way of long-term solutions.

[stefano1]

fellow hairloss sufferers

 

please sign and SHARE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN the petition for the commercialization of the brotzu lotion

 

thank you!!!

(Link removed)

[NEWHAIRPLEASE]

On 8/9/2017 at 5:37 PM, Spanker said:

PRP with A cell may be an improvement. FUE has gotten much better in the last 10 years. I don't think there will be a cure, but there continued to be advancement.

Completely agree with this Spanker. I remember when “ by the year 2000 “ was the cure. It’s obviously gotten so much better but a cure is gonna be tough

[Sean]

There probably are some functioning cures possibly.  I know in lab animals there are.   It takes years for fda to approve and review phases and trials.  This industry is just like the HIV business.  You have things that can kill those cells but there is money to be made.  Finasteride, rogaine, dutesteride, keto, tons of hair gauranteeing shampoos, creams, lotions, potions, vitamins.  You bring out a cure, then there is a multbillion dollar market cap that is now going down the drain.  

[Melvin- Moderator]

The only viable cure I could see happening within the next 50 years may be hair cloning, but I don't think that will be a reality for a long time, definitely not long enough for me to benefit from it.

[Schiller]

What would be considered a cure? For many of us, that would be unlimited donor hair. That may be closer than we imagine. One barrier to hair cultivation has been the tedious process of producing hair germs.  But now, hair follicle germs can be cultivated in large numbers in just days. Those germs can grow into hair follicles which produce hair. Sure, I know: mice again. But this is a discovery announced just this year. It's not a treatment, but it's very encouraging if you ask me.

[Bill - Seemiller]

On 3/13/2018 at 7:00 PM, stefano1 said:

fellow hairloss sufferers

 

please sign and SHARE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN the petition for the commercialization of the brotzu lotion

 

thank you!!!

(Link removed)

Stefani,

 I’m not sure actually what is lotion yes but I have no idea why anybody should sign a petition for the commercialization of it. Frankly, this sounds like a blatant promotion and we certainly aren’t going to allow that on this forum. On the other hand, if you would like to start a new topic and provide us with some information about the products and tell me what your involvement is, why you want it commercialized, etc. Perhaps we can discuss it as a community. But blatantly advertising is against the policies of this forum. 

Best regards,

Bill

[Bill - Seemiller]

 I started posting on this forum, well when it was the old Groupee / Infopop forum back in 2004. Back then, I was told that hair cloning would likely be available in 5 to 10 years. And guess what… It’s now 2018 and I’m being told that hair cloning is going to be available in 5 to 10 years.   It seems like things just aren’t working out the way those who continue to experiment with it, or whole thing. Many companies have tried, experimented and phase 3 trials just don’t go as planned.   So Lord only knows how long it will actually take for any of these so-called Shores to become available however, I’m certainly not holding my breath. 

Best wishes,

Bill

[NEWHAIRPLEASE]

I remember in 1992 when I started losing my hair that “ a cure for baldness will be here by 2000 “

 

Baldness cures are like the flying cars. Always 10 years away!

[Gasthoerer]

On ‎8‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 8:18 AM, Sean said:

You bring out a cure, then there is a multbillion dollar market cap that is now going down the drain.  

If one company finds a cure, this will be within a single day the biggest company in the world. Do you think that they would care for another company loosing their propocia profits?

Also, if there is a cure, the bald guys from that company would steal it in a milisecond if it is not commercialised. Just look what happend when the found that viagra had some side effects like serious boners.

Edited August 6, 2018 by Gasthoerer

[voxman]

A cure for baldness may indeed happen in the world of tomorrow but we live in the world of today so it would be a giagantic waste of your lifetime to wait it out when there are viable alternatives available today.  

[Panamera13]

Other than Replicel - which other companies are engaged in clinical trials to prevent baldness.

[harry_potter1]

On 8/1/2018 at 8:28 AM, Melvin-Moderator said:

The only viable cure I could see happening within the next 50 years may be hair cloning, but I don't think that will be a reality for a long time, definitely not long enough for me to benefit from it.

This, hair cloning is likely the most realistic cure of it. An infinite donor area that will likely keep the donor area almost virgin. 

How close we are to that? I've no idea. May be in next 10 years, may be in next century. 

As someone above said, medicine isn't truly a science yet. We have very limited knowledge regarding human body and we work based on statistics. That leave us frustrated with some of those results. Not just hair transplants but also other conditions.

I think we will get some improvements over the years, probably better techniques and clinics, better products etc