Senior Member Sean Posted July 16, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted July 16, 2018 Gatsu, Looking good man. Your journey with hair looks complete. Congrats. This is how a hair restoration outcome should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payam Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) The dream right here.. I was wondering though, why did you opt for Keser over Erdogan? Also do you have links to your first two procedures? Edited July 16, 2018 by Payam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted July 16, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted July 16, 2018 Great result. The issue with the darker hair on the sides is barely noticable with this length and it might even improve further.I doubt that anyone outside of a hair forum would recognize it. The rest looks amazingly natural (even the waves of the longe hair look perfect) and like a full head of hair. 9.5 out of 10 at the minimum from my point of view. I recommend that you do not spend more time on hair transplant forums but just enjoy your hair. 1 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 17, 2018 Administrators Share Posted July 17, 2018 The temple points look very natural and blended at that length, congrats it looks awesome man thanks for updating us with your progress. Warmest regards- Melvin 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rawkerboi Posted July 17, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted July 17, 2018 Journey to restore Hair is complete!! Enjoy your new Hair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gatsu Posted July 24, 2018 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) On 7/16/2018 at 9:15 AM, Payam said: The dream right here.. I was wondering though, why did you opt for Keser over Erdogan? Also do you have links to your first two procedures? I liked Kesers approach, just doing 500 grafts a day to ensure maximum growth. I also liked that he did everything himself. Top that with some killer results in his portfolio and there you go looked at the first thread here but it seems that the pictures doesn't work anymore. Dont think im allowed to link to a different hair site as well but you can google "dr keser 2065 grafts" and you should get it. Part 2 is here Edited July 24, 2018 by Gatsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payam Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 55 minutes ago, Gatsu said: I liked Kesers approach, just doing 500 grafts a day to ensure maximum growth. I also liked that he did everything himself. Top that with some killer results in his portfolio and there you go looked at the first thread here but it seems that the pictures doesn't work anymore. Dont think im allowed to link to a different hair site as well but you can google "dr keser 2065 grafts" and you should get it. Part 2 is here Wow, 500 grafts a day and comparing your first 4 month progress to mine I wish I had known about this guy before I did my transplant.. why did you opt for Lupanzula this time? And is it right that you've transplanted over 6500 grafts in total? Have you done any smp? Your donor looks great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gatsu Posted July 24, 2018 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, Payam said: Wow, 500 grafts a day and comparing your first 4 month progress to mine I wish I had known about this guy before I did my transplant.. why did you opt for Lupanzula this time? And is it right that you've transplanted over 6500 grafts in total? Have you done any smp? Your donor looks great Well to be honest i didn't want to go to Turkey anymore for privat reasons and i also wanted something closer and smoother. I dont know how good Dr.Keser is at Temple points per say but i know hes a master at hair lines. Yes i have transplanted 6543 FUE grafts in total with no SMP. Thank you :), im actually surprised and pleased my donor looks so good still . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payam Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Gatsu said: Well to be honest i didn't want to go to Turkey anymore for privat reasons and i also wanted something closer and smoother. I dont know how good Dr.Keser is at Temple points per say but i know hes a master at hair lines. Yes i have transplanted 6543 FUE grafts in total with no SMP. Thank you :), im actually surprised and pleased my donor looks so good still . I see, would you have gone with him had he been closer? Is he still that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted July 24, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted July 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, Payam said: Wow, 500 grafts a day and comparing your first 4 month progress to mine I wish I had known about this guy before I did my transplant... This is nonsense payam. Keser is a great clinic, but they had their share of bad results like all other clinics. Also, you cannot compare yourself to one of greatest results in this very forum. 95 % of all users will look bad against it. Even more important, you had 3600 grafts. How many sessions would that be with Keser? 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JayLDD Posted July 25, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Gasthoerer said: This is nonsense payam. Keser is a great clinic, but they had their share of bad results like all other clinics. Also, you cannot compare yourself to one of greatest results in this very forum. 95 % of all users will look bad against it. Even more important, you had 3600 grafts. How many sessions would that be with Keser? Not to mention he had close to 5000 grafts in the frontal third over the course of his procedures, most via stick and place. Plus 10 days of work spread across three procedures, 7 years and he paid 75% more on average than Payam across both Lupanzula and Keser. HT1: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/48494-asmed-koray-erdogan-3070-grafts-april-10th/ HT2: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/51224-3038-grafts-fue-asmed-koray-erdogan-30th-april/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JayLDD Posted July 25, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Gasthoerer said: This is nonsense payam. Keser is a great clinic, but they had their share of bad results like all other clinics. Also, you cannot compare yourself to one of greatest results in this very forum. 95 % of all users will look bad against it. Even more important, you had 3600 grafts. How many sessions would that be with Keser? Probably is the best result I've ever seen though, next to the 10000 graft Hasson result on here. HT1: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/48494-asmed-koray-erdogan-3070-grafts-april-10th/ HT2: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/51224-3038-grafts-fue-asmed-koray-erdogan-30th-april/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gatsu Posted July 25, 2018 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2018 @Gasthoerer and @JeanLDD are absolutely right. Dr.Keser wouldn't even do more than 1500-2000 sessions sense it would take to long to split up. He also told me he doesn't have the energy to make more than that. Its a small clinic and he does all the work him self so its understandable. More importantly, i have done this over many years and spent a small fortune as well, we are talking 26 000euro+ in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bman3082 Posted July 25, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2018 13 hours ago, JeanLDD said: Probably is the best result I've ever seen though, next to the 10000 graft Hasson result on here. how is your result coming these days, I got Rahal in 2 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payam Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 On 7/24/2018 at 11:16 PM, Gasthoerer said: This is nonsense payam. Keser is a great clinic, but they had their share of bad results like all other clinics. Also, you cannot compare yourself to one of greatest results in this very forum. 95 % of all users will look bad against it. Even more important, you had 3600 grafts. How many sessions would that be with Keser? Can you show these bad results to me? Also i wouldn't mind multiple sessions if it ensured graft survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JayLDD Posted July 26, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted July 26, 2018 15 hours ago, literalno said: how is your result coming these days, I got Rahal in 2 weeks Still about a week before the 3 month mark and no visible growth yet, but same situation last time. Very glad I chose to lower the hairline further and redesign it, previously far too much into mature hairline territory that still indicated hairloss in my opinion. HT1: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/48494-asmed-koray-erdogan-3070-grafts-april-10th/ HT2: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/51224-3038-grafts-fue-asmed-koray-erdogan-30th-april/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bman3082 Posted July 26, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted July 26, 2018 2 hours ago, JeanLDD said: Still about a week before the 3 month mark and no visible growth yet, but same situation last time. Very glad I chose to lower the hairline further and redesign it, previously far too much into mature hairline territory that still indicated hairloss in my opinion. great to hear! i got rahal in 2 weeks and I'm pretty nervous but excited! keep me posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted July 27, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted July 27, 2018 On 7/26/2018 at 11:19 AM, Payam said: Can you show these bad results to me? Also i wouldn't mind multiple sessions if it ensured graft survival. Nothing ensures graft survival. And no you wouldn't, cause you are not a thinner. You lost you entire frontal band. How would you make a plan for several session? a) Have one side first and then the other one month later? Then you have a crooked hairline for a year. b) Have a low density transplant on puropose and add density later. Great risk to look horrible for a more than a year and high risk as well. c) Have conservative hairline first and then lower it? You would waste a lot of singles which would be not the front anymore after the secone procedure or again look terrible for more than a year. A lot of cases from Keser are in a german forum with Keser having is own subforum. You need to subscripe though to see this part of the forum: https://www.alopezie.de/foren/transplant/index.php?t=thread&frm_id=16& Keser had lots of great, average and some few poor results. Worth noting: Due to his non-rotating/oscilating punch he has quite some cases where he was not able to extract properly and had to decline the patient during surgery. Same patients had great results going with some performing a different punch method. Another point: As you are a bigger case it is likely that he would have turned you down anyway. --> I recommed to discuss further in you own thread to not spam this great result. 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payam Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Gasthoerer said: Nothing ensures graft survival. And no you wouldn't, cause you are not a thinner. You lost you entire frontal band. How would you make a plan for several session? a) Have one side first and then the other one month later? Then you have a crooked hairline for a year. b) Have a low density transplant on puropose and add density later. Great risk to look horrible for a more than a year and high risk as well. c) Have conservative hairline first and then lower it? You would waste a lot of singles which would be not the front anymore after the secone procedure or again look terrible for more than a year. A lot of cases from Keser are in a german forum with Keser having is own subforum. You need to subscripe though to see this part of the forum: https://www.alopezie.de/foren/transplant/index.php?t=thread&frm_id=16& Keser had lots of great, average and some few poor results. Worth noting: Due to his non-rotating/oscilating punch he has quite some cases where he was not able to extract properly and had to decline the patient during surgery. Same patients had great results going with some performing a different punch method. Another point: As you are a bigger case it is likely that he would have turned you down anyway. --> I recommed to discuss further in you own thread to not spam this great result. Ok! I will check it out, thank you for the information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BjornBorg Posted November 15, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted November 15, 2018 On 7/27/2018 at 8:00 PM, Gasthoerer said: Keser had lots of great, average and some few poor results. Worth noting: Due to his non-rotating/oscilating punch he has quite some cases where he was not able to extract properly and had to decline the patient during surgery. Same patients had great results going with some performing a different punch method. Does this mean Keser won't operate on curly hair? Also, on the topic of the thread. Gatsu, do you have a pic of your hairline in it's absolute worst state pre any procedure? Congrats on your amazing results! My results - 2486 grafts FUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted November 15, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted November 15, 2018 4 hours ago, BjornBorg said: Does this mean Keser won't operate on curly hair? No, this is not related IMO. He just doesn't rotate his hand during the punch (or uses a device to get the rotation/oscilation). 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Zinedine Posted November 19, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 7/15/2018 at 9:23 PM, Gatsu said: Hi everyone! Closing in at 12 months so i though i would post a final update. Saved my hair so i have some length now. Im liked it this way so im going to stick with this style :). Gatsu, My friend, what an amazing result!!! One question, how come did Dr Kesser leave you with so many white dots? In the pre-photos I could see the scaring was very noticeable. How do you feel right now with ... sooo much hair up there? 🤩 Just superb work by Lupanzula. What´s unbelievable is that you still have another 2000-3000 thousand grafts left for the future ... so jealous!!! Enjoy the new look 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarsanUk Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 This is fantastic well done for choosing such a great doc. I might use him for my second procedure. I read somewhere that a patient was told they added 25% VAT tax to the total amount, is this true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raker Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Lupanzula charges FUT €2.5 per graph & FUE €4 per graph + 21% VAT - tax was introduced by the government because it’s a cosmetic procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gatsu Posted December 10, 2018 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 10, 2018 Hi everyone! Just a little update with some Christmas beard 😄. I'll answer your questions soon ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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