Regular Member acman1882 Posted May 3, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted May 3, 2016 Hey everyone, Long time reader, first time post here. I just wondered if someone can tell me if anyone's ever died or had brain damage etc from a hair transplant? Whenever people talk about the risks of hair transplants, the only ones I hear about are a bad scar, not getting good coverage etc. What are the real risks from a hair transplant? This is surgery ultimately. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member lorenzo Posted May 3, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 3, 2016 I heard of one case in India. The doctor claimed the patient has underlying issues. Most doctors use the same freezing as a dentist so it is quite safe. I wouldn't want to be knocked out for surgery. Your odds of dying driving to the clinic are much higher. Representative for Hasson & Wong. Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are esteemed members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. My opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Hasson & Wong. My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Hasson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member JohnnyBald Posted May 3, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted May 3, 2016 Most doctors use the same freezing as a dentist so it is quite safe. . How many people died at a dentist's clinic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member acman1882 Posted May 5, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 5, 2016 Thanks for the replies. Would be great to see the evidence - where would I find records about this sort of thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Shampoo Posted May 5, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 5, 2016 I've wondered about staph infection in regard to hair transplants? Especially with FUT and that size wound...has anyone ever heard of someone getting a staph infection via their donor strip? Dr. Dow Stough - 1000 Grafts - 1996 Dr. Jerry Wong - 4352 Grafts - August 2012 Dr. Jerry Wong - 2708 Grafts - May 2016 Remember a hair transplant turns back the clock, but it doesn't stop the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Shampoo Posted May 5, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 5, 2016 How many people died at a dentist's clinic ? A rough estimate is that one dental patient dies every other day in the United States. Hair transplant deaths can't be anywhere near that kind of number, in fact I doubt it is one a decade. Source: " A dental patient dies about every other day in America, according to a first-of-its-kind estimate by The Dallas Morning News" Deadly Dentistry: Elusive Numbers Dr. Dow Stough - 1000 Grafts - 1996 Dr. Jerry Wong - 4352 Grafts - August 2012 Dr. Jerry Wong - 2708 Grafts - May 2016 Remember a hair transplant turns back the clock, but it doesn't stop the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member California Posted May 6, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 6, 2016 Well, since the topic has come up, I did some quick research which yielded that there certainly has been one death reported so far, possibly related to an HT procedure but this did not happen in India.....believe it or not, it happened in Southern California. Found this topic from 2007 on HRN: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/156145-death-cosmetic-surgery-2.html Best regards, California North America Representative and Patient Advisor for: Dr. Tejinder Bhatti, Darling Buds Hair Transplant Center, Chandigarh, India. Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 California I vaguely remember hearing about this. I lik what Dr. Mejia, recommended by our community had to say. I've pasted it below for everyone's reference... ---- This case is very interesting. It is difficult to interpret the facts of a case or jump to conclusions without in depth understanding of this persons medical history knowledge and details of the case other than what is reported. "A 52-year-old Southern California man who died during a routine hair transplant procedure was administered three times the normal dosage of lidocaine, a local anesthetic, according to a wrongful-death lawsuit filed by his widow.... Within an hour of going in he was dead." While it APPEARS and is written the patient had an overdose, we really do not know what happened. As I illustrated in my post above, I myself could have been victim to an alleged lawsuit if my patient decided to wait an extra hour or two to have his heart attack. However, let us look at what is reported. 1. The death occured within an hour of arriving at the clinic. From all of you who have had a hair transplant, how many of you recall being anesthetized that quickly. Usually, in my office, we have another consult to review the plan, mark the areas, cut and shave the appropriate areas of hair , take photos. By the time we are ready to go depending on patient questions etc, it could take an extra 30 min to one hour before anesthesia. 2. Within the first hour, most hair transplant physicians are anesthetizing only the donor area and removing the donor area. 3. Three times the normal dose of lidocaine:... hhmm. Physicians are aware of what the maximum limit is. Generally, it is approx 25 ml of 2% lidocaine with epinephrine or 50 ml of 1% lidocaine with epi or even more volume if you are using diluted tumescent type solutions. Assuming you used a concentrated solution, that would be 75 ml of 2% lidocaine to be administered in the first 1 hour. This is a huge amount especially since the first part of the procedure is to anesthetize the donor area. If this were true, yes there is a case for malpractice. But it does not make sense from a physicians standpoint in the first hour. If it was a long 12-hour megasession, maybe. . Generally most physicians use volumes in the order of 6-12 ml of diluted solutions 1% or less to anesthetize the donor area. Some do use volumes of 50 to 100 ml of saline or salt water to super tumesce the donor area. .If the allegations are correct, a serious error had to have occurred where 2% lidocaine was used instead of saline and they were supertumescing the donor area. This is the only way I can conceivably see this error from occurring and it is hard to imagine. Most physicians have protocols in place to prevent fatal errors. It is unfortunate this happened irrespective of the cause or error. It is important to recognize that any procedure carries risks. Chucky, we do have emergency protocols should a patient have a bad reaction other than just dialing 911. In my office,we do have a "crash cart", automatic defribillator, oxygen and I am trained in Advanced Cardiac Life Support Measures. Most physicians do the same and at our conferences we do review emergency protocols. Ricardo Mejia MD, FAAD Hair Transplant Network Physician Jupiter FL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted May 6, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 6, 2016 The Vancouver streets are littered with bodies from patients who died from hair transplants. It just so happens that most those corpses were found near Hasson & Wong's offices. Coincidence, I think not. I cant prove anything right now, but the evidence is clearly pointing towards H&W. This post might be deleted soon because I fear the mods on this site are in on the whole thing. You've been warned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted May 6, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 6, 2016 I remember reading about the patient from California which was directly related to how he was treated during the procedure. I remember another one I think occurred in India whereby the patient was administered general anesthesia by his request and experienced cardiac arrest during the procedure. Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Shampoo Posted May 6, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 6, 2016 I remember another one I think occurred in India whereby the patient was administered general anesthesia by his request and experienced cardiac arrest during the procedure. I am not a doctor....I guess it is done in some major life saving organ replacement type surgeries, but I would think it would not be wise to be under general anesthesia for something as optional as an 8-10 hour hair transplant surgery. Isn't being under general anesthesia that long border on dangerous? Dr. Dow Stough - 1000 Grafts - 1996 Dr. Jerry Wong - 4352 Grafts - August 2012 Dr. Jerry Wong - 2708 Grafts - May 2016 Remember a hair transplant turns back the clock, but it doesn't stop the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member StaggerLee123 Posted May 7, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 7, 2016 Yes. Of embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Dutchie, I suppose this is some weird attempt to be funny? I'm not sure I understand the humor. I don't know if the joke is about the fact that virtually nobody has ever died from a hair transplant or if the joke was about Hasson and Wong or if the joke is about the moderators. Nonetheless nothing is true about what you said. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted May 9, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 9, 2016 I was kidding. Of course the Vancouver streets arent littered with bodies, come on now I have never heard of anyone dying from a HT. If they did there must have been some underlying condition. I dont see how you could die from minor surgery like that. Anyways, I have a pretty crazy sense of humor. Not everyone appreciates it. I'll try to tone it down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted May 10, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 10, 2016 I am not a doctor....I guess it is done in some major life saving organ replacement type surgeries, but I would think it would not be wise to be under general anesthesia for something as optional as an 8-10 hour hair transplant surgery. Isn't being under general anesthesia that long border on dangerous? From what I remember the patient requested general anesthesia for supposedly a strong phobia regarding the sight of blood. Still I agree with you and I also remember reading that there was not a licensed anesthesiologist present for the procedure, vitals were not being tracked properly, etc, etc. Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Shampoo Posted May 10, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 10, 2016 I also remember reading that there was not a licensed anesthesiologist present for the procedure, vitals were not being tracked properly, etc, etc. Wow....how recckless is that? BTW... Question: "Is There a Safe/legal Time Limit for General Anesthesia in an Accredited Outpatient Setting?" Answer: Most sources generally consider 6 hours as the upper safe limit for outpatient surgery, whether it is performed in a hospital or surgery center. After 6 hours, the rate of post-operative complication rises.... https://www.realself.com/question/there-safe-legal-time-limit-for-general-anesthesia-in-accredited-outpatient Dr. Dow Stough - 1000 Grafts - 1996 Dr. Jerry Wong - 4352 Grafts - August 2012 Dr. Jerry Wong - 2708 Grafts - May 2016 Remember a hair transplant turns back the clock, but it doesn't stop the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted May 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2016 In the USA, a licensed anesthesiologist is required whenever general anesthesia is used. Hard to say what the laws are in India, but still, the lack of tracking his vitals among other things is obviously very irresponsible to say the least!...:rolleyes: Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member California Posted May 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2016 In the USA, a licensed anesthesiologist is required whenever general anesthesia is used. Hard to say what the laws are in India, but still, the lack of tracking his vitals among other things is obviously very irresponsible to say the least!...:rolleyes: Guys, with all due respect, the laws governing medical practices are pretty strict in India. However, there is less accountability as compared to the US as it is easier to file a law suit against the doctor/practice in the US. That said, we have been hearing about this case in India where an HT Patient passed away during the procedure. I have yet to see any documentation to back it up. On the other hand, the case that happened in Sothern California is documented. Best regards, California North America Representative and Patient Advisor for: Dr. Tejinder Bhatti, Darling Buds Hair Transplant Center, Chandigarh, India. Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted May 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2016 Oh sure, we all understand how you feel California...:rolleyes: Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member California Posted May 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2016 My friend, It really is not a question of "how I feel". It is a bigger question of a blanket statement that might create a wrong impression about an entire country. India has a population of 1.2 billion peeople. Hundreds of HT centers. My point is that if a patient did lose his life during an HT procedure, then it has to be documented somewhere. It might have hapoened but I have yet to see the facts backing up this "assumption" Best regards, California North America Representative and Patient Advisor for: Dr. Tejinder Bhatti, Darling Buds Hair Transplant Center, Chandigarh, India. Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted May 13, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2016 Sure I understand. I don't think most people would judge an entire country based on one case. And what I read was not a "blanket statement" but quite a long story that I hardly think was made up. But at the same time what I read did not have legal documentation to the case. And that's not hard to understand being the case was not in the USA where documentation may be more public or more accessible because of the regulations of physicians here. It would be nearly if not absolute impossible for someone in the USA to get the legal documentation in India unless they were the ones involved and had the assistance of legal counsel. Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Paulygon Posted May 14, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 14, 2016 I agree with Bill & Dr. Mejia, The Anesthetic is always a risk. Didn't Kanye West's mom die during cosmetic surgery, in California as a result of general anesthesia in combination with underlying issues heart issues? Anyway, I seem to remember that in my case, my surgeon (Dr Mohebi) only used local anesthesia. That's a big difference... unless I was knocked out for a while and don't remember some of it.. It just seems like I was awake for a lot of the surgery time, watching movies and eating the kabobs they ordered for me. Paulygon is a former patient of Dr. Parsa Mohebi My regimen includes: HT #1 2710 grafts at Parsa Mohebi Hair Restoration in Los Angeles in 2012 Rogaine foam 2x daily, since 2012 (stopped ~10/2015) Finasteride 1.25mg daily, since 2012 (stopped ~12/2015) HT #2 3238 grafts at Parsa Mohebi Hair Restoration in Los Angeles in Jun. 2016 Started Rogaine and Propecia in July. 2016 after being off of them for about a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Senior Member Torip Posted May 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted May 24, 2016 I heard of a case of death from HT, in a relatively small town in India, from my hair dresser. Apparently the patient got severe infection or something after HT and died from it. I am not sure whether the HT was done by a licensed medical practitioner. From what the hair dresser was saying it didn't appear like a legitimate doctor. Perhaps a nurse or a technician with some expertise in HT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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