Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 19, 2016 I dont think i can grow my head hair for 6 weeks. After 1 week it all looks very uneven and the side stick out and the amount of white hairs i have begin to show and stick out. Thats why within a week i trim down the back and sides to number 1 and keep overall short blended look! See some body hair pictures 7days growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 19, 2016 Administrators Share Posted February 19, 2016 The body hair looks kinda sparse to be honest, I think the beard hair will be your best bet, can you wear hats for a month? I really honestly believe that the length and the lighting is making your donor look worse than it is, I bet if you grew it out for weeks and let it get bushy the doctors would have a better assessment in person. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Hasson & Wong. The Doctors have reviewed your photos but they are not suitable for the purpose of the recommendation process. Could you please email me back some photos of your donor hair from the back and sides in natural light with no flash. We need to see what the density is like at the back and sides and also the photos of the sides of your scalp need to be taken level to your head not pointing down at the top of your head. It needs to be seen how far your sides have dropped around the crown. They are the only few who have asked this. My cousin took the pictures standing on the bed using iPhone with flash and room light on. I had the most body hair but after a lot of laser treatment it's become thin and reduced alot. I think it was the heat of the laser as this is the case near my beard line which becomes visible when I trim it down to number 1. I need to let all the hair grow then go for the consultation. Edited February 19, 2016 by Rashid35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 Hello, Unfortunately your loss is extensive and you do not appear to be a good candidate as further loss is highly likely. We highly recommend you be very careful and do not rush into anything. You could start minoxidil and finasteride for a year and see how your loss stabilises however HT surgery is not recommended. Due to the demand being far to great. Please let me know if I can help further. Warmest regards, Spencer Stevenson ( Spex ) Patient Advisor DR. FERIDUNI HAIR CLINIC www.hairdocs.info <Startseite> Tel.: +44 7704 364731 Website: www.spexhair.com <Hair Transplant UK, Dr Feriduni hair transplant - Spencer Stevenson> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 >Dear Sir, >We would like to thank you for your interest in our clinic. > As you may know Dr Serkan Aygin is one of the most well-known Hair >Specialist in Turkey and also a dermatologist, so he uses his experience >for many years. >We have received your photos but we >noticed that you are not suitable for the operation. >Your donor part is not strong enough to cover your needs, while the area >that needs to be transplanted is wide. >So in case of operation your donor part (back hairs) will be damaged. >Any operation will not satisfy you. >So we do not advise any hair transplantation for >You. >Best Regards , >Tuğ?e BENER >Kadıoğlu >Hastanesi, Fulya Cad. No:25, Cevahir AVM yanı, Mecidiyek?y / İstanbul / >T?rkiye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 Dear, thank you for your email and for your interest in our clinic. I apologise for the late reply, we just found your email back in our spam emails. Dr. Bisanga has seen your pictures, and based on what he sees you are not a good candidate for a hair transplant. The area of hair loss is bigger than what your donor area can offer in grafts. Doing a surgery will never give you the result you are hoping to have. If you keep your hair short, you might think about doing smp, to add coverage but with a sort of tattoo on the scalp. Should you have questions, do not hesitate to contact me. Kind Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 Dr Hakan Doganay Thanks for pictures... Our honest thought is you are not good candidate for Hair Transplant surgery All the best Hair Transplant Forum, Hair Transplant Blog,DR. Hakan Doganay AHD Clinic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 21, 2016 Administrators Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) Rashid, how do you expect to hear a different answer if you keep submitting the same photos? Hasson and Wong have already advised you that the photos are not suitable for the purpose of consultations, you have to allow the donor to grow at least a month and half and also go to a doctor in person, submitting the same photos are going to get you the same answers. None of these physicians saw you in person correct? I would really like to see your donor area once the hair is grown out, and I would like to see the photos taken not overhead but at eye view level, right side, left side, front view, back view, then one overhead shot where you are bending down and someone is taking a photo of you at eye level. In some of the angles you took the photos you appear a lot balder than I think you are, there is an angle where you shot the crown from a upside angle facing downward, If I were to take a picture like that I would look like I have no hair. You've heard the expression "the camera adds 10 pounds" well the camera angled up and downward with high flash on the balding areas adds a norwood level. Rashid, look at this video, do you think that you are balder than this man? to me you guys look to have the same level of hair loss. Notice in the beginning his hair is long and it looks thick and curly, he was able to get surgery because grown out the doctors could asses his hair better. Edited February 21, 2016 by Melvin-HTsoon I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member harin Posted February 21, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 Rashid, how do you expect to hear a different answer if you keep submitting the same photos? Hasson and Wong have already advised you that the photos are not suitable for the purpose of consultations, you have to allow the donor to grow at least a month and half and also go to a doctor in person, submitting the same photos are going to get you the same answers. None of these physicians saw you in person correct? I would really like to see your donor area once the hair is grown out, and I would like to see the photos taken not overhead but at eye view level, right side, left side, front view, back view, then one overhead shot where you are bending down and someone is taking a photo of you at eye level. In some of the angles you took the photos you appear a lot balder than I think you are, there is an angle where you shot the crown from a upside angle facing downward, If I were to take a picture like that I would look like I have no hair. You've heard the expression "the camera adds 10 pounds" well the camera angled up and downward with high flash on the balding areas adds a norwood level. Rashid, look at this video, do you think that you are balder than this man? to me you guys look to have the same level of hair loss. Notice in the beginning his hair is long and it looks thick and curly, he was able to get surgery because grown out the doctors could asses his hair better. I cannot agree more with above Rashid35. As I mentioned many HT specialists diagnosed me with retrograde alopecia just by looking at the shaved down/trimmed down hair. In person consultation and testing proved the diagnosis wrong. I think overall as HTsoon said, use cap or hat or whatever - grow your hair for 4-6 weeks and take pictures as instructed and then we will know!, though nothing can beat in person consultation. (after growing your hair). look at my pre-op pictures, if you think you have same amount or better hair than mine (pre-op) then in my ''personal'' opinion you could be a HT candidate. My Thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 21, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 >Dear Sir, >We would like to thank you for your interest in our clinic. > As you may know Dr Serkan Aygin is one of the most well-known Hair >Specialist in Turkey and also a dermatologist, so he uses his experience >for many years. >We have received your photos but we >noticed that you are not suitable for the operation. >Your donor part is not strong enough to cover your needs, while the area >that needs to be transplanted is wide. >So in case of operation your donor part (back hairs) will be damaged. >Any operation will not satisfy you. >So we do not advise any hair transplantation for >You. >Best Regards , >Tuğ?e BENER >Kadıoğlu >Hastanesi, Fulya Cad. No:25, Cevahir AVM yanı, Mecidiyek?y / İstanbul / >T?rkiye Rashid, dont give up hope just yet!! There's a doctor in the Los Angeles area who specializes in beard-hair and body-hair transplants. Go talk to him, lets see what kind of weird shit he can come up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 21, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 His name is DR. U :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 21, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 Dr. Umar https://www.dermhairclinic.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 Ok but look at the reply below; Dear Rashid, We thank you for sharing your pics with us. According to your pictures you can go for DHT : No of grafts : You need 2500 grafts for frontal part, 2000 grafts for vertex and 1500-2000 grafts for your crown area. So, total you need 6000-6500 grafts to cover your full head. For more information I have attached your pictures after mark on it. For look change, It will only require 3500-4000 grafts. Time : We can do 2500-3000 grafts in 1 day. 6000-6500 grafts grafts in 2 consecutive days. Donor area : We will use occipital area and beard area as a donor area. We can extract 4000-4500 grafts from your occipital area and rest we can take out from beard area. Cost : We charge Rs 70 per graft for scalp hair and Rs 75 per graft for beard hairs. For more queries please fell free to contact me or whts app me on 08826473333. Regards Pankaj 08826473333 Warmest Regards, Dr Pradeep Sethi MBBS, MDDermatology (AIIMS, New Delhi) Hair Transplant Surgeon ISHRS, USA Dr Arika Bansal MBBS, MD Dermatology (AIIMS, New Delhi) ABHRS, Diplomate of American Board of Hair Restoration Surgeons Hair Transplant Surgeon ISHRS, USA Head Quarters: New Delhi D15,1st & 2nd floor, South Ext part II, Gurgaon 935 p, Sector 51 www.eugenix.in, I don't know what dht is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member harin Posted February 21, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) I guess they mean for framing the face with thin coverage elsewhere it will only require 3500 - 4000 grafts. But full coverage would require 6-7k grafts. DHT = Direct Hair Transplant. Means the recipient cite incisions/holes are made first and then the grafts are extracted from occipital area and re-implanted immediately into the reciepient holes/slits,except for the hairlines where they wait till they can have some single grafts before planting the hairline. This way the time grafts spend outside the body is limited and this reduces the chances of grafts not growing. the price works out to 1.02 US Dollar per graft, generally for a good surgeon price in US ranges between 7-10$ per grafts and more for Beard or body hair Txp. The grafts quoted appears to be consistent with the difference of the grafts quoted by Dr. Umar and Dr.Arika when I consulted!, don't know the reason but Dr. Arika did quote less number of grafts than Dr.Umar and ended up implanting the quoted number of grafts pluss 300 odd more. Little more than 9000 grafts wereimplanted, since we had agree to around 8750-8800 I was not charged for 300 odd grafts which exceeded the estimate by 300/400. I would still say go by what HTsoon said, go to a local clinic after growing the hair for 4-6 weeks and get urself evaluated, and also send the pictures back to the surgeons who have previously agreed to do your HT,lets see what they say. Nothing better than in-person consult. Though I personally still think that u will be a candidate for HT given everything. You can always choose a different surgeon to do your HT, you dont have to go with the one who evaluated you personally. Edited February 21, 2016 by harin My Thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 Treatment reply ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mamzuka Posted February 21, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted February 21, 2016 Please see my pictures and let me know if I can restore my hair loss. I do not think you can get a whole lot of hair back but I'm sure something can be done for you that will make a world of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted February 21, 2016 Moderators Share Posted February 21, 2016 Rashid, Yes. That seems to be pretty much the graft layout that they are giving you. If you can get that many, it should come out looking rather decent I would think. Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 22, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 22, 2016 Please see the 3 pictures donor hair and hair analysis. Let me know what you think. When they were taken the person was saying i have 2s and 3s then when they were clicking on them they were all 1s and 2s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 23, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 Please Interpret these pictures for me as a matter of opinion. I'm an ex-boxer, i can take it, hit me with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrGio-WHTCClinic Posted February 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2016 You might want to maximize the scalp donor supply by donor recharging, but also maximize hair quality with Acell and PRP. My opinions are my own. I am one representative of MyWHTC Clinic's European branch. Consultation Dates & Cities for Dr. Patrick Mwamba London, United Kingdom - Available (Sat.) Zurich, Switzerland - Available (Saturday) Bologna, Italy - Available (Saturday) Brussles, Belgium - Available (Sun.-Sat.) *No Fee* Dr. Patrick Mwamba is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 24, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2016 You might want to maximize the scalp donor supply by donor recharging, but also maximize hair quality with Acell and PRP. Never heard of donor recharging ? Also I would like to know a reliable place in UK which would do prp with acell, if possible in London area ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 25, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 25, 2016 Rashid, have a look what Dr. Umar can do for a severe NW7. This is why I tell people to never give up hope, no matter how bald you are: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/170892-12-000-ugrafts-reverses-severe-baldness-norwood-7-patient.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 25, 2016 Administrators Share Posted February 25, 2016 Rashid, have a look what Dr. Umar can do for a severe NW7. This is why I tell people to never give up hope, no matter how bald you are: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/170892-12-000-ugrafts-reverses-severe-baldness-norwood-7-patient.html That's an absolutely amazing result, he had retrograde alopecia as well, you can see where is nape hair had receded. Rashid, if I were you, I would definitely not waste my time considering any other physicians, Dr. Umar definitely has the most experience with the most extreme baldness, I would say though, that it's probably best to start conservative, and do subsequent surgeries, you get better yield and your donor recovers better. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 25, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 25, 2016 It wont be cheap though. His 3 to 4 HT's will mostly be FUE, and he'll have travelling expenses to deal with as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted February 25, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 25, 2016 It wont be cheap though. His 3 to 4 HT's will mostly be FUE, and he'll have travelling expenses to deal with as well Well i must say that gives me some hope, thanks What to do if top surgeon tell you different things ? Risk and get treatment or go safe and have no treatment? Yes, then it's getting the money together but if the first treatment can get me going for some time then that way i have some chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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