Senior Member home1212 Posted February 20, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 20, 2016 before I'd start harvesting FUE grafts for my crown, I'd wait at least one full year for your current HT to your frontal zone to come in to ensure you don't need additional grafts in that area that may not have taken, need for additional density, etc. I wouldn't even be thinking about your crown at this point until you see what result you've ended up with in the most important part of any HT - framing of the face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JON86 Posted February 20, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 20, 2016 before I'd start harvesting FUE grafts for my crown, I'd wait at least one full year for your current HT to your frontal zone to come in to ensure you don't need additional grafts in that area that may not have taken, need for additional density, etc. I wouldn't even be thinking about your crown at this point until you see what result you've ended up with in the most important part of any HT - framing of the face Excellent advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 22, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 22, 2016 First stubbles are now coming through. I count about 50 of them. And thats after only 19 days since my surgery. This is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Garageland Posted February 22, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 22, 2016 Excellent advice by home1212, in theory you could have FUE at 6 months after your FUT but give yourself sometime to see how the results look and more importantly time to see how you feel. Maybe the crown won't bother you after restoring the front maybe it will but only after living with it for a while will you know. --- Former patient and representative for Hasson & Wong. Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are esteemed members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. My opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Hasson & Wong. My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Hasson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 22, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 22, 2016 You guys are probably right. I might even give it 16 months just to be sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spidey Posted February 22, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'm gonna assume these stubbles aren't your transplanted hair that had shed. Hair just doesn't grow that fast after a shed. Even if it was they would be so fine you wouldn't even notice it once transplanted hair starts to grow. It is probably hair that was buzzed down. My 1036 graft FUE with Dr HASSON. https://hassonandwong.com/timeline/fue-hair-transplant-timeline/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Stig Posted February 23, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 You've been given great advice to wait and see how your frontal third grows and matures before commencing crown work, just in case you need to use grafts to touch-up some areas or add density. As the crown area is virgin scalp, and you are switching to FUE, you can technically gets it done pretty early. Are you sticking with Hasson for your next procedure, or would you consider a FUE specialist like Lorenzo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 23, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 Do you really think dr. Lorenzo's FUE work on Norwood 6's and 7's is really that good?? https://vimeopro.com/user23345553/norwood-5-6-7 Because I think his results are spotty at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 23, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 I'm gonna assume these stubbles aren't your transplanted hair that had shed. Hair just doesn't grow that fast after a shed. Even if it was they would be so fine you wouldn't even notice it once transplanted hair starts to grow. It is probably hair that was buzzed down Cant be because they're in an area that was completely bald before. Remember I'm taking a supplement to help speed up regrowth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member delancey Posted February 23, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 Do you really think dr. Lorenzo's FUE work on Norwood 6's and 7's is really that good?? https://vimeopro.com/user23345553/norwood-5-6-7 Because I think his results are spotty at best Dr. Lorenzo gives us a very good idea of what someone with a high norwood pattern should expect. I can think of a few FUE surgeons who are as good as Dr. Lorenzo but no one who is better. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 23, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 Dr. Lorenzo gives us a very good idea of what someone with a high norwood pattern should expect. I can think of a few FUE surgeons who are as good as Dr. Lorenzo but no one who is better Dont mean to cherrypick but I think this is a poor result for someone who was given 5,100 grafts to work with: https://vimeopro.com/user23345553/norwood-5-6-7/video/82244306 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member delancey Posted February 23, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 5,100 grafts spread out over an area as large as 150-200 cm2 plus: a) poor hair characteristics (thin hair, short donor, more 1 and 2 hair grafts) b) Unforgiving lighting c) short hair d) high color contrast. should result in something similar to this. In some situations, this may be what some Norwood 5 patients should expect. Edit: I just watched the video again. The before pictures show a huge area of hair loss. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 23, 2016 Administrators Share Posted February 23, 2016 Dutchie, there are a lot of things that come in to play in hair restoration sometimes it's not just a matter of grafts, it's the size of the area i.e head size, the donor characteristics i.e hair diameter, and the density of the donor area, some unlucky guys get the worst end of the stick on all accounts, that video you posted is a prime example. Now take a look at this video, this guy is Norwood 6 fantastic donor characteristics thick wavy hair, good donor density, and a relatively small head, this transformation is nothing short of amazing, in my opinion Dr. Lorenzo's transformations of high norwoods is up there with H&W. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spidey Posted February 23, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 Cant be because they're in an area that was completely bald before. Remember I'm taking a supplement to help speed up regrowth Maybe.. I was on MIN, biotin, and MSM a week after my HT and still didn't get that immediate growth. Anyways, I am not the one to questions as it is your head, not mine... Just didn't want you to get your hopes too high, just like how you thought you were one of those lucky people who don't shed. My 1036 graft FUE with Dr HASSON. https://hassonandwong.com/timeline/fue-hair-transplant-timeline/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Petchski Posted February 23, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 5,100 grafts spread out over an area as large as 150-200 cm2 plus: a) poor hair characteristics (thin hair, short donor, more 1 and 2 hair grafts) b) Unforgiving lighting c) short hair d) high color contrast. should result in something similar to this. In some situations, this may be what some Norwood 5 patients should expect. Edit: I just watched the video again. The before pictures show a huge area of hair loss. Also it is only 6.5 month result, not the full ten months plus that most of the result before and afters are from Lorenzo. -------------------------------------- My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Feller Dr Feller Jan '09 2000 grafts Dr Lorenzo Dec '15 2222 grafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member delancey Posted February 23, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 Also it is only 6.5 month result, not the full ten months plus that most of the result before and afters are from Lorenzo. Efectivamente. I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 23, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 So who is everyone's top FUE doctors?? Please list your top 5 to 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mav23100gunther Posted February 23, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2016 So who is everyone's top FUE doctors?? Please list your top 5 to 10 Lorenzo, Erdogan, Feriduni in the top 3, and then Shapiro and Konior. Other notables are Bisango and Rahal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 23, 2016 Administrators Share Posted February 23, 2016 Lorenzo, bisanga, Erdogan, Diep I've seen some poor results from Feriduni, and when looking at most of his impressive results online I see there mostly FUT, Dr. Diep did my surgery and to be honest his FUE work is top notch. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Stig Posted February 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2016 Lorenzo, Erdogan, Feriduni in the top 3, and then Shapiro and Konior. Other notables are Bisango and Rahal. Couldn't have said it better myself. I would stick to the top 3 of Lorenzo, Erdogan or Feriduni. Once you go with Shapiro, Konior or Rahal - the price per graft just becomes too expensive whilst quality is not better than the top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member esrec Posted February 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2016 I searched the forum 50 pages deep prior to my FUT--much harder to do on this forum with FUE given the marked improvements that've most notably occured in the past 18-24 months. Go back a few years and ARTAS pops up everywhere. My question would be, who has the best, most recent FUE results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 24, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2016 So H&W dont rank at all on you guys FUE list so far?? Thats very strange. I've seen some excellent results from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mav23100gunther Posted February 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2016 So H&W dont rank at all on you guys FUE list so far?? Thats very strange. I've seen some excellent results from them They only just started officially offering/advertising it last year, so they are still relatively inexperienced at the procedure. I believe they sent two or so of their technicians to get trained in Turkey by Erdogan's clinic at the extractions. I personally would not get FUE with them until they season and demonstrate consistently high quality FUE results which will take a few years as they build up experience. The sense I get is that H&W is still a FUT strip clinic through and through that is only offering FUE to keep up with the market demands. I just don't know how much or if they have fully brought into the procedure. I believe that Dr Wong has embraced it more, and he attend the FUE conference in Turkey last year. Bottom line, these guys are and will continue to be a strip FUT clinic who will offer FUE when the situation warrants. Spidey seems to have had great success with FUE from Hasson, but that was only 1,000 grafts to the hairline. Dutchie, you are going for a much bigger procedure into the crown area, a black hole for grafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted February 24, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2016 Thanks everyone for your FUE recommendations. Its still a year away till I make my decision, so I'm in no rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mick50 Posted February 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2016 It's funny Dutchie mentioning Dr Lorenzo I was actually looking at his website a couple of months ago and thinking some of his high Norwood cases were not as sexy as one might expect,I guess it shows even with top Doc like Lorenzo no two result will be the same ,the result depends a lot on the patients individual characteristics, general health etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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