Senior Member Petchski Posted December 27, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 27, 2015 The swelling is more likely if the doc uses a lot of anastaisia. Dr Rahal generally does use a lot, but all docs mentioned on this thread are top docs, and the difference between H+W, Shipiro and Rahal and Dr Jones is the difference between average and world class. If i were you, i'd take consults with all three, send pictures to them and they will evaluate from there and give you an idea of what's possible. -------------------------------------- My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Feller Dr Feller Jan '09 2000 grafts Dr Lorenzo Dec '15 2222 grafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member esrec Posted December 27, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 27, 2015 Like others said, put price and travel aside if you can. I left NY for Minneapolis. I did not plan on doing that initially. Truth is, there's a handful of docs that significantly increase your chances of a positive outcome. You only get one head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member lorenzo Posted December 27, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 27, 2015 I believe some of the doctors have consultants in Toronto. I believe Hasson and Wong has one can come see you and explain the procedure. If i were you, i'd take consults with all three, send pictures to them and they will evaluate from there and give you an idea of what's possible The more consults the better. Representative for Hasson & Wong. Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are esteemed members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. My opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Hasson & Wong. My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Hasson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted December 27, 2015 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 27, 2015 I believe some of the doctors have consultants in Toronto. I believe Hasson and Wong has one can come see you and explain the procedure Yup, there is. He's located on Queens quay in TO. I already left him a message Don't fool yourself this kind of garbage still happens. Although maybe not in the same doll hair effects. Many people come out of a transplant looking worse. Any person with a medical certificate can do transplants without any additional training. This is why its important to choose a doctor that is good. Websites like this assist you in making the smart and right decision Have you see Wayne Rooney?? He has all that money, and still came out with a horrible HT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mav23100gunther Posted December 27, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 27, 2015 Have you see Wayne Rooney?? He has all that money, and still came out with a horrible HT That's because he never went with a top surgeon. I've never been impressed with his results, and I scratch my head why he never went with Lorenzo or Feriduni seeing he elected FUE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mav23100gunther Posted December 27, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 27, 2015 Yup, there is. He's located on Queens quay in TO. I already left him a message Have you see Wayne Rooney?? He has all that money, and still came out with a horrible HT The other issue with Rooney is that he had his procedure very young when his hair loss was still progressing quickly, and I would bet you he is not on Propecia to help stabilize the loss of existing hair. After he got the HT, he continued to loose existing hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member lorenzo Posted December 27, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 27, 2015 At the beginning everyone thought Rooney hair transplant was amazing. This was because he wore a lot of concealer. Now he isn't wearing any everyone thinks its a failure. It does look very thin but as stated he is going to lose a lot more hair. A soccer player that just retired told us that Alex Del Piero was loosing his hair and didn't know what to do to maintain it. He was not allowed to take finasteride because of doping issues. So I don't believe Rooney is able to use it. There is a soccer player named Antonio Conte (Italian national coach and maybe Manchester United future coach) that had two horrible transplants. He finally had a proper transplant to repair it. Soccer player are too busy to research and assume all transplant doctors are the same. I have enclosed a picture of Conte to show his bad transplant and his repair. Representative for Hasson & Wong. Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are esteemed members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. My opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Hasson & Wong. My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Hasson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted December 27, 2015 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 27, 2015 There was a guy named Kennedy Bakircioglu who used to play for Ajax Amsterdam who had an absolute horrible HT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member exploresky007 Posted December 27, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted December 27, 2015 This is Rooney and his wife in 2015, his hair after the 2nd HT looks brilliant. Excellent density for a FUE procedure. Wonder who was the doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mav23100gunther Posted December 28, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2015 This is Rooney and his wife in 2015, his hair after the 2nd HT looks brilliant. Excellent density for a FUE procedure. Wonder who was the doctor. He wears concealer mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted December 28, 2015 Administrators Share Posted December 28, 2015 Yup, there is. He's located on Queens quay in TO. I already left him a message Have you see Wayne Rooney?? He has all that money, and still came out with a horrible HT That picture is from 2013, I believe he got his second procedure after that picture was taken, he has a better result now, as for concealer, I don't think there is any concealer that would last headhunting a ball with a bunch of sweat in your head, it would most definitely run and be visible whilst playing, his results looks good, of course I do think he'll another transplant down the line. Also, Wayne Rooney is young, the younger you are the less stable your hairloss typically, judging from your avatar if guess you're in your 50's-60's if that's true that makes you a better candidate. Wayne Rooney 2015 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted December 28, 2015 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2015 It does look like he got a 2nd HT which looks better. But IMO he still needs more work around the crown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted December 28, 2015 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2015 What I found interesting about Victor Hasson, he looks like he never had HT surgery himself. Maybe he doesnt care for it?? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member don174 Posted December 28, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2015 Dutchie , did you look into dr Ferreira at Seager in Toronto ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member esrec Posted December 28, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2015 How's the scheduling of consults coming along? If you hustle you can organize conversations quickly. I recall speaking to 6 doctors in about a 10 day stretch. Many of these docs try for a quick escape around the holidays so don't worry if responses are slow right about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted December 28, 2015 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2015 How's the scheduling of consults coming along? If you hustle you can organize conversations quickly. I recall speaking to 6 doctors in about a 10 day stretch. Many of these docs try for a quick escape around the holidays so don't worry if responses are slow right about now I left H&W Toronto's affiliate a voicemail, but they are off till Jan. 4th 2016. Havent heard back from them yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted December 28, 2015 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2015 Dutchie , did you look into dr Ferreira at Seager in Toronto ? No, I havent. I heard Dr. Seager was a bit like Bosley. A bit of a mill. Is that true?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted December 28, 2015 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2015 I just took a better pic of my forelock (tuft). I'm very lucky to have this because forelocks never fall out, and they are perfect to help disguise a transplant hairline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Stig Posted December 28, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2015 What I found interesting about Victor Hasson, he looks like he never had HT surgery himself. Maybe he doesnt care for it?? :confused: My best guess is that he would only get a HT procedure with the best in the world, and seeing even he can't perform a HT on himself ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Stig Posted December 28, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2015 I just took a better pic of my forelock (tuft). I'm very lucky to have this because forelocks never fall out, and they are perfect to help disguise a transplant hairline Dutchie, it looks like you have a big area to cover. Therefore I would recommend FUT with Dr Hasson or Dr Ron Shapiro. Dr Hasson to get a large number of grafts, or Dr Ron due to his more mature hairlines and excellent use of grafts. However, I wouldn't go with Dr Rahal for your case. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member don174 Posted December 29, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 29, 2015 I just took a better pic of my forelock (tuft). I'm very lucky to have this because forelocks never fall out, and they are perfect to help disguise a transplant hairline Dr Seager passed away few yes ago. Dr Ferreira now does it. Used to be part of sure hair. Very honest guy. Iam still 6 wks post op so can't comment on results yet, but he had good bedside manner and approachable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted December 29, 2015 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 29, 2015 Dr Seager passed away few yes ago. Dr Ferreira now does it. Used to be part of sure hair.Very honest guy. Iam still 6 wks post op so can't comment on results yet, but he had good bedside manner and approachable Thanks very much, Don. I'll add Ferreira to my research list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted December 30, 2015 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2015 As far as hair density is concerned, would I get about the same density results from Dr. Rahal as I would from Hasson & Wong?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted December 30, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2015 It really depends on what the goal or objective is with the individual patient. If the goal is to gain as much material coverage on the scalp surface, then many times the surgeon will make the recipient incisions more of a hyper-acute angle so that the regrowth is more close or flatter against the surface. The trade-off would be to not attain as much of visual fullness or body. As the angulation is brought up, the hair shafts are not as flat to the scalp surface. IMHO, the goal especially in the frontal zone would be to match the angulation of the native hair. If there is no native hair left in the recipient zone, then a subjective angle of roughly 30% produces a good result. So even though the same number of grafts or grafted density is used, there can be a varying degree of visual coverage depending on the skill and methodology of the surgeon. Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted December 30, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2015 This thread started on Dec 26th and rarely seen one take off like wildfire! And IMHO there is no way that 50% of all HT patients would regret their decision to have the procedure done....far from it. Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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