Regular Member CPR4Hair Posted June 6, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 I had an fue 6 days ago 3500 grafts and the pain from my donor area is unbearable. But whats most alarming is tousands of folliclea are coming out from my donor area. They feel like hard scales or bumps and when i rub them they fall out and they are clearly follicles with hears in them. Is this sever shock loss. I am loosing thousands of grafts from my donor area. And why am i in so much pain so 6 days after the operation?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairweare Posted June 6, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 That is not a normal or expected occurrence following FUE. Please consult with your doctor right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mav23100gunther Posted June 6, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 Who was your doctor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member CPR4Hair Posted June 6, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 Who was your doctor? Before I answer that can you tell me am I losing these hairs for good? I have already lost heaps they are very clearly follicles with hairs in them falling out from the donor site. If indeed I have lost these hairs for good im going to be incredibly thin around the donor almost non existant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member CPR4Hair Posted June 6, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 Is there anything I can do to stop them falling out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Alan Feller Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) I posted a video above that may explain what is happening to you. As for the possible shockloss you are concerned about take heart that there is a good chance most or all of the hair may return. The scalp is very resilient. OF COURSE GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR DOCTOR RIGHT AWAY FOR THE REASONS I EXPLAIN IN THE VIDEO ABOVE. Best to you, Dr. Feller Great Neck, NY Edited June 7, 2015 by Blake_Bloxham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Yiddo Posted June 6, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 What an Excellent video. This has really made me reconsider having a large fue operation. Hope this all turns out ok for you cpr4hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairweare Posted June 6, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 Your having a medical problem and you are asking lay people for advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member FUE2014 Posted June 6, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 Great video response Dr Feller! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Yonex Posted June 6, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 Your having a medical problem and you are asking lay people for advice? what's up with you and your constant 'lay people' references? is someone who went through medical school and has loads of letters after their name some kind of 'god' in your world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairweare Posted June 6, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 I hear you Yonex. If you should ever have a heart attack, don't call me call your lawyer instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Yonex Posted June 6, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 this is a hair loss website, hardly life or death scenarios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairweare Posted June 6, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 6, 2015 One could categorize your comments as dumb and dumber but I will just leave it at that. I hope this gentlemen gets off his computer and seeks competent medical attention ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Tav1 Posted June 7, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 7, 2015 I posted a video above that may explain what is happening to you. As for the possible shockloss you are concerned about take heart that there is a good chance most or all of the hair may return. The scalp is very resilient. OF COURSE GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR DOCTOR RIGHT AWAY FOR THE REASONS I EXPLAIN IN THE VIDEO ABOVE. Best to you, Dr. Feller Great Neck, NY Dr. F - I applaud your taking time on the weekend to respond to this person. A question, did you consider that this person had a previous strip procedure (as outlined in his profile) and factor that into your response, if warranted? And if so, is there anything from his prior work that could have exacerbated the situation beyond what I presume a one-day mega FUE would have otherwise? Lastly, I saw in your video the recommendation of immediate antibiotics. Is there any possibility of necrosis in the donor from a mega FUE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairJo Posted June 7, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 7, 2015 Wow I hope things turn out OK for this guy the sooner he gets seen the better . How is his hair in the recipient area I wonder? I have never heard of something like this but I am quite familiar with nerve pain in the scalp and it is truly horrible. I wish him all the best . Also thanks Dr. Feller for pointing out the reasons why this could happen it helps explain some of my own nerve pain. But besides the pain I would be in great despair if it also included donor hair loss. I hope everything turns out well for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairweare Posted June 7, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) Post op wound dehiscence can occur with strip surgery as was documented by a recent patient here. While infection and or necrosis is fortunately very rare after HT surgery regardless of method it can be a serious medical condition that requires immediate and expert medical attention. Not to scare anyone from undergoing elective surgery or panic should they experience unexpected pain and redness following a wound either by intent or accident, look up necrotizing fasciitis and MRSA infections. Always follow your doctor's post op instructions to the letter and contact him should anything occur in the post op period that is unexpected. Edited June 7, 2015 by hairweare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Tav1 Posted June 7, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 7, 2015 Post op wound dehiscence can occur with strip surgery as was documented by a recent patient here. While infection and or necrosis is fortunately very rare after HT surgery regardless of method it can be a serious medical condition that requires immediate and expert medical attention. Not to scare anyone from undergoing elective surgery or panic should they experience unexpected pain and redness following a wound either by intent or accident, look up necrotizing fascitis and MRSA infections. Always follow your doctor's post op instructions to the letter and contact him should anything occur in the post op period that is unexpected. I had necrosis on a virgin scalp following FUE, which I documented on this forum. Which was the reason I inquired with Dr. Feller. Dr. F did not address the potential for complications with mega FUE following (granted, a 2010) strip surgery, but I was curious if that prior strip could have in any way made a mega FUE less warranted for this person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairweare Posted June 7, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 7, 2015 Given the choice between 5000 total FUE grafts over 3 days by a FUE specialist on the West Coast or staged 8 month apart 1500 graft FUE procedures in Europe, my medical intuition led me to choose the latter. I have subsequently advised others who ask to go "low and slow" and to disregard the misleading fear tactic that the first session will have negative impact on the subsequent session. This is both safer and likely to result in a better aesthetic result than a single megasession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser-soze Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Is it just me or does anyone else find it a bit class less of dr feller to take this opportunity to yet again knock fue and big up strip? If this poor guys predicament was just down to the number of extractions and lack of blood supply we would see this type of case a lot more. We regularly see fue mega sessions of 4 or 5 thousand with no I'll effects on the donor area. I may be wrong but I think this guy may of also been having fue into his strip scar. I presume the cause of this is down to either poor skill doing extractions or infection or both. Let's put it this way I for one have seen far more complications from strip than I have fue. Scar revisions,SMP into scars and maybe in this chaps case fue into the strip scar. We've seen literally dozens of fue sessions with more than 3500 so numbers I doubt is the issue. Maybe over harvesting of a area may have caused this but that again would be down to the extractors skill level. This guy is obviously in great distress and for you to take this inappropriate time to knock fue dr feller with your shot gun blast to the back of the head line. Tottaly the wrong place to be pulling this kind of stuff. Really hope this guy is in the best of health in the shortest possible time and gives us a explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairweare Posted June 7, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 7, 2015 When considering advice on a forum such as this one always consider the source, look for the poster's biases and conflict of interests, their experience and background. Who is paying them or how do they get paid? Do they have any hidden agenda? While there is good info to be gleaned here, a lot is also prejudiced and slanted, not to mention the posters who have no clue as to what they are talking about. Remember as is has always been in the HT arena, caveat emptor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member fueguy Posted June 7, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted June 7, 2015 I had an fue 6 days ago 3500 grafts and the pain from my donor area is unbearable. But whats most alarming is tousands of folliclea are coming out from my donor area. They feel like hard scales or bumps and when i rub them they fall out and they are clearly follicles with hears in them. Is this sever shock loss. I am loosing thousands of grafts from my donor area. And why am i in so much pain so 6 days after the operation?? I'm willing to bet that you had Artas. A few concerns here: 1) were all of the grafts taken from the safe zone? 2) Artas uses blunt force, so there is a real danger that you damaged a lot of the graft during extraction 3) There is also a danger of over harvesting and having the appearance of the a see-through donor. 3500 grafts is one session is just too much. I would discuss all of this with your doctor. If it was Artas, I would also document everything and make a complaint. While I support FUE, I feel that a strip/fue combo is best for mostt guys. Most guys don't have enough life-time grafts for just FUE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member farmcat Posted June 7, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 7, 2015 I didn't consider 3500 grafts a mega session as I have regularly seen successful transplants of that number on this site. Is Dr. Feller saying that anything over 700 fue grafts is considered a mega session? I am hoping to have a couple 1500 - 2000 graft sessions over time and this worries me. I hope CPR sees his doctor quickly and gets a good recovery with good growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member FUE2014 Posted June 7, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 7, 2015 3500 FUE in one day is not necessarily too much. Depends on a lot of factors, such as how easy the grafts come out, experience of the team, is he the only patient on the day etc. Dr Feriduni does sessions of over 3500 grafts in one day by the way. Back to the ops question, some pins and needles pain in the donor area is common, it is unpleasant and gets worse at night, but does go away by the third week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mav23100gunther Posted June 7, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted June 7, 2015 I hear you Yonex. If you should ever have a heart attack, don't call me call your lawyer instead. Haha - love it Actually if I ever had a heart attack, I think I would just find a heart network forum, and post my symptoms there asking the readers what they think I should do. Seriously though, which HT surgeon did you use? I'm shocked he never provided you with an emergency number to call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member CPR4Hair Posted June 7, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 7, 2015 3500 FUE in one day is not necessarily too much. Depends on a lot of factors, such as how easy the grafts come out, experience of the team, is he the only patient on the day etc. Dr Feriduni does sessions of over 3500 grafts in one day by the way. Back to the ops question, some pins and needles pain in the donor area is common, it is unpleasant and gets worse at night, but does go away by the third week. I think it may not be so much the number of grafts but rather the understanding of the nurse. She openly said during the procedure my grafts were the closest to the surface she had seen yet made no adjustment. The pain is not the issue I have entire patches of hair which has fallen out from my donner area and continues to fall out. I dont even want to think about how bad this will look. Each time they fall its a fresh sore with insufficient blood to the area im suseptable to infection even blood posoining. So who cares about pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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