Regular Member Michael Vories, MD Posted February 12, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted February 12, 2015 African American patient at 6 months post-op. We began this case by performing 100 test grafts to test for the degree of curl within the dermis to make sure the tissue was coming out clean with an acceptable amount of transection (6.0 percent). A 0.9mm punch was used for extraction. Once this was performed we felt comfortable with performing a 3000 grafts procedure over two consecutive days, Immediate after photo is included as well as 6 month post op photos. Grafts were extracted manually and placed with Hans Implanter Pens. All grafts extracted and placed by the physician. Dr. Mike Vories is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1966kph Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Nice result I'm sure he must be happy. Dr vories is the transection rate of 6% higher or lower or average to what you would ordinarily see with a African American hair type? Have a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Michael Vories, MD Posted February 12, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 12, 2015 6 Percent transection rate for African American hair is low for us. We average 10% transection for these cases. If during test grafting we see over 20% transection rate, we stop the case and advise to consider FUT or non-surgical management. Dr. Mike Vories is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1966kph Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Thank you for the answer your answer is what I've heard before. I've seen quite a few cases were fut had been done presumably because fue wasn't a option. Jamie fox springs to mind. Have a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member TygerD Posted February 18, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted February 18, 2015 Got to give credit where credit's due. This is impressive work on an African American like myself. No more neograft makes me reconsider another trip down to the Carolinas. Still can't beat $4 a graft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TakingThePlunge Posted February 19, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted February 19, 2015 Great case! Well done Dr. Vories! David - Former Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant I am not a medical professional. All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Cryingoutloud Posted February 23, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2015 Got to give credit where credit's due. This is impressive work on an African American like myself. No more neograft makes me reconsider another trip down to the Carolinas. Still can't beat $4 a graft. I trust you're joking, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member TygerD Posted February 23, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted February 23, 2015 I trust you're joking, right? I think this particular case is impressive. I haven't seen many NW5's on African Americans transformed to something respectable and manually done by FUE. I'm not the bitter type so despite what happened with my procedure, I can still be objective. And this clinic seems to have made fundamental changes since my procedure almost 3 years ago which greatly impact the outcome for African Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1966kph Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I agree Tyger I also think this is a good result especially looking at your photos. We all know how difficult fue is on the African American hair type. Good luck with whatever your next move is and I hope you achieve your aims Have a good day I think this particular case is impressive. I haven't seen many NW5's on African Americans transformed to something respectable and manually done by FUE. I'm not the bitter type so despite what happened with my procedure, I can still be objective. And this clinic seems to have made fundamental changes since my procedure almost 3 years ago which greatly impact the outcome for African Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted February 24, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2015 Just to clarify: Dr. Vories still uses the NeoGraft for the scoring and partial removal of the FUE grafts. He now, however, uses forcep assisted delivery of the graft itself instead of using the suction/vacuum feature of the NeoGraft device. Is this correct, Dr. Vories? Either way, great case! "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Michael Vories, MD Posted February 25, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 25, 2015 Thanks Blake. Cole Instruments is our current supplier of punches. We have found their punches, especially the serrated punches, to be much sharper than the NeoGraft punches. Our current protocol is 0.8 mm punches for Caucasion hair, 0.85 mm punches for Asian or Indian hair, and 0.9 mm punches for African American hair. All grafts are manually extracted using inverted curved forceps. Thanks again. Dr. Mike Vories is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Cryingoutloud Posted February 25, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted February 25, 2015 I think this particular case is impressive. I haven't seen many NW5's on African Americans transformed to something respectable and manually done by FUE. I'm not the bitter type so despite what happened with my procedure, I can still be objective. And this clinic seems to have made fundamental changes since my procedure almost 3 years ago which greatly impact the outcome for African Americans. Yeah it's a good case but this surgeon's record with African American patients has been less than stellar. There are several other surgeons who consistently wheel out breathtaking FUE cases with African hair; Dr Diep being a notable standout. Of course, it's your choice but I'd hate for you to use the same guy and end up disappointed again. You've got to get it right this time round. You don't want to be doing this again 12 or 18 months from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Michael Vories, MD Posted April 28, 2015 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 28, 2015 He should be coming in within the next several months for his 12 month follow up. Please keep in mind that there are many variations in curl with African American hair. His came out really well, but that is not true in all cases. Dr. Mike Vories is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted April 29, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted April 29, 2015 Dr Vories, Nice assessment! It seems like you approach these sometimes difficult extraction cases in a very careful and methodical manner. Nice work. "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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