Senior Member darren smith Posted October 23, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted October 23, 2014 Hi guys I'm 29 and seriously considering smp for dense looking hair and later on the shaved look, now as title says who is best and secondly please I'd love to hear and see pics from people who had it done looking to get few app lined up so please please guys take the time to get back to me cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member el guapo Posted October 24, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2014 Where are you based? Probably a good idea to go to someone close if a good options is available. There are plenty of SMP practitioners out there but only a few good ones it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NicH0le007 Posted October 24, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2014 Hi guys I'm 29 and seriously considering smp for dense looking hair and later on the shaved look, now as title says who is best and secondly please I'd love to hear and see pics from people who had it done looking to get few app lined up so please please guys take the time to get back to me cheers Hey Darren, The members will prob be able to help you best if you tell them.. Where do you live? Are you willing or do you want to travel? Are you looking at permanent SMP vs. temporary SMP? Have you previously had a transplant or are you planning one in the future? Are you looking to go with a shaved look or just add density to your existing hair? This way they can help you sort through all their personal experiences. Best of luck, Nicole I am the SMP and Micro-Pigmentation Specialist for Shapiro Medical Group. Always feel free to message me privately with any additional questions you might have. I am trained in both the permanent and temporary pigmentation methods and am happy to be here to offer support as a neutral resource. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member darren smith Posted October 24, 2014 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'm london based, thanks for reply, but not a lot of replys says it all lol, please people who are in the know and had smp done please let me know cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldKen2 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hi guys I'm 29 and seriously considering smp for dense looking hair and later on the shaved look, now as title says who is best and secondly please I'd love to hear and see pics from people who had it done looking to get few app lined up so please please guys take the time to get back to me cheers Well I am in the U.S. and since you are London based I do not feel that I could do you much good. I had my smp in the states, and researched quite a bit about the various clinics and their techniques. Ultimately I found a place that I was most comfortable with and I feel they did a great job. The best I know of the UK is that HIS Hair, Vinci Hair, and Skalp are the most experienced providers. Have you checked into these places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member darren smith Posted October 25, 2014 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 25, 2014 Well I am in the U.S. and since you are London based I do not feel that I could do you much good. I had my smp in the states, and researched quite a bit about the various clinics and their techniques. Ultimately I found a place that I was most comfortable with and I feel they did a great job. The best I know of the UK is that HIS Hair, Vinci Hair, and Skalp are the most experienced providers. Have you checked into these places? Thanks for reply u have any pics, I'm currently booking slots at all the clinics mentioned, any more info guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldKen2 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Thanks for reply u have any pics, I'm currently booking slots at all the clinics mentioned, any more info guys I don't share pics anymore, I used to several years ago when I first had smp done, but got burned too many times sending photos to people who claimed to be potential clients but actually turned out to be Clinic Owners or SMP industry people. My photo even ended up on a facebook page of a clinic I never went to. Im not saying that this is the case with you, but just to be sure I do not share my photos or other personal information and do not disclose which clinic I went to. Pics will not do you much good anyhow, they do not tell the whole story. You have to see it in person and under various lighting. You should visit the clinics in person that you are interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member scar5 Posted October 26, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted October 26, 2014 I don't share pics anymore, I used to....but got burned.... My photo even ended up on a facebook page of a clinic I never went to.. ha...SMP is a nice industry like that. They do their best to respect your privacy. Afterall, wouldn't you, in their position? We desperate guys are trying to trick the world too, right? SMP has helped me, it's pretty good if you are already scared and pretty much f&&$#d from strip scars, but don't trust them to create a nautral hairline. They pretty much haven't sorted that yet. Get some HT hair up front first. It is hard to say who is good at SMP circa 2014. Big chains have novices and experts. Experts get lazy, or leave and start their own shop, and then they can get cheap all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldKen2 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 but don't trust them to create a nautral hairline. They pretty much haven't sorted that yet. Get some HT hair up front first. It is hard to say who is good at SMP circa 2014. Big chains have novices and experts. Experts get lazy, or leave and start their own shop, and then they can get cheap all over again. I disagree. The clinic that did my smp created an amazingly natural hairline. All of the men who I saw in person who had there's done at the clinic also had very realistic looking smp hairlines. I have seen photos and videos of several other smp clinics who seem to create very rounded and natural hairlines as well. Granted, there are some smp providers who tend to go a little lower on the forehead and straight across, and also do temple work with zig-zags and crazy design crap like that which I do not feel looks realistic at all. But even in those cases, those styles are usually the request of the client. I believe natural SMP hairlines are the one thing that a fair share of SMP businesses have mastered. You just have to find a clinic that knows what they are doing. As far as HT's + SMP, if you haven't already carved your head up with HT's, I would certainly advise against doing so. Do the SMP without FUE or HT. From my observations, (personal viewings) men who have had HT's and then have SMP tend to have results that look a bit blueish and slightly blurred dots that are not as defined. And again, this is based on results I have seen in person. SMP works much better on a "Virgin Scalp". It is best to find a provider who has used the same primary practitioner throughout the history of the company (even if it has only been 5-8 years) and has only one location. When you start messing with the bigger "chain" providers, you are basically paying for a service unknown, b/c the results they have sold you on are most likely the results of their top practitioner(s), and chances are you will have someone different. Best to check the entire resume of your practitioner before diving in. It may surprise you that some practitioners have little to no experience in smp and have only completed a 90 training certification course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member scar5 Posted November 3, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted November 3, 2014 I believe natural SMP hairlines are the one thing that.. SMP businesses have mastered. You just have to find a clinic that knows what they are doing. ....From my observations, (personal viewings) men who have had HT's and then have SMP tend to have results that look a bit blueish and slightly blurred dots that are not as defined. Well, if they have mastered it, why do we have to find one that knows what they are doing? And how do we find them? OK...I am being pedantic. I do not get it. How can an HT have any effect on blueishness? I think that HTs are what makes SMP worthwhile and that hairless SMP is a recipe for trouble, especially as SMP becomes public as time goes by...and it will! I accept that scarred tissue does not accept ink as predictably as virgin skin however. That said, SMP can definitely help strip scars and barren areas blend in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairthere Posted November 3, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) I've actually been having pretty good success working on HT patients. The trick with scar tissue, IMO, is to not blast it with pigment and to be aware of the varying depths you might have to work at. Especially with strip scars, which as Scar5 noted can be difficult. We generally perform a test patch with strip scars to see how the pigment will react first. Here is a picture of a strip scar as well as a thickening effect client who had a HT that we did recently.... Edited November 3, 2014 by hairthere I am the owner/operator of AHEAD INK a Scalp Micropigmentation Company in Fort Lee, New Jersey. www.aheadink.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldKen2 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well, if they have mastered it, why do we have to find one that knows what they are doing? And how do we find them? OK...I am being pedantic. I do not get it. How can an HT have any effect on blueishness? I think that HTs are what makes SMP worthwhile and that hairless SMP is a recipe for trouble, especially as SMP becomes public as time goes by...and it will! I accept that scarred tissue does not accept ink as predictably as virgin skin however. That said, SMP can definitely help strip scars and barren areas blend in. I did not say that all SMP clinics have mastered the art of creating natural hairlines. What I said exactly was, "I believe natural SMP hairlines are the one thing that a fair share of SMP businesses have mastered." And to answer your question of how do you find a clinic that creates natural hairlines, I believe I have stated this many times, but I will say it again- YOU HAVE TO VISIT THE CLINIC IN PERSON AND SEE THERE WORK IN PERSON ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT MEN. It also doesn't hurt to meet some former clients of the clinic you are interested in, although with smaller clinics that arent named HIS, this can be difficult. I was actually able to view an SMP procedure at the clinic I went to, before I ever had smp done. I do agree with you that SMP is better with hair, and the reason is b/c of the texture and 3d effect hair provides. The hair just has to be shaved very very short. I just don't feel that HT hair is good for smp, and i believe that is where we disagree. The reason SMP can look less defined and blueish with HT scar tissue, is b/c scar tissue is completely different than regular skin tissue and the ink takes on a different hue inside of it. All I can tell you is that I have personally seen smp on several guys with scar tissue, and it all looked blurry and blue. Hopefully there will be in the future, or maybe already, an ink and method of smp that works well with scar tissue b/c there are many guys out there with HTs and could benefit from smp. And I do agree with you, that being completely bald (no hair at all) with SMP is a recipe for disaster, and just as you stated, as soon as smp becomes more widely recognized those with less hair and smp will be more easily outed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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