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Dr Mwamba,

 

You mentioned in your talk on TBT that the denovo protocall involved injecting a cocktail of stemcells in the fue hole to guaranteed there is a enough stem cell material for regeneration. Do you have any plans to trial this same cocktail of stemcells into an empty fue punch hole to see if follicle neogenesis occurs?

 

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It is proved doctor from india had invented this breakthrough.

Indian doctor nigam is the best in the world right now.

I am excited dr nigam really invented this.

I can imagine dr nigam getting noble award and going into hall of fame.

Dr Nigam wow I am sure dr nigam is going to be the worlds best and most busiest surgeon.

If I am not wrong first time its not in western countries that such a breakthrough research is done and it is in India.

Dr Nigam and dr mwamba I understand covers europe

what about US ?

Any comments

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Hi Dr Mwamba, thanks for getting back to me. Terms for new follicles aside I think I need to word my questions better :). My question is about creating new follicles from holes punched in the bald scalp and then filled with stem cells. This means 0 hairs are taken from the donor area, instead a fue punch is used to create a hole just like you were extracting a hair. This hole would then be filled with the stem cell cocktail.

 

So basically the protocall would be.

 

1. Punch 0.8mm hole in the bald scalp. (removing tissue not follicle.)

2. Fill with the same cocktail of stem cells used in Nigams Denvo protocall.

3. Observe for Neogensis.

 

Do you think this is something Dr Nigam has already tried? If not do you think it may be worth a shot. To me it is a mixture of Follica's wounding theory and Nigams stem cell aproach.

 

Bruno

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goodbye baldness, welcome dr nigam + dr mwamba

My hearty congratulation to indian doctor nigam and dr mwamba

I cannot wait to see the results

Baldness is a curse . Its ridiculous and very depressing

stupid baldness please get away from this planet.

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Dear Pasquale ,

 

I got it now .I am not sure if Dr Nigam tried it .What you are suggesting is creating wounds and apply the cocktail to stimulate neogenesis .

It is something I have been doing in my clinic .What we do is to create wounds ( not with big punches ) but with needles .And then ,I was injecting Acell an ECM .The role of Acell is to attract a massive quantity of blood with Adult stem cells ( inactive) and convert them to progenitor cells at the wound site .We did observe on those patients a gain in hair caliber and pigmentation and not statistically significant improvement in density .(neogenesis?) .I was thinking of applying the new cocktail with the same principle .I am just not sure if creating bigger wounds will help favorably .

 

I may try it with even smaller punchs 0.5mm to avoid massive scarring in case of failure .

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dr mwamba can you please let me know when this doubling techniq will be sure and sure final.

I mean to say that when will it be openly available in your and dr nigam clinic i mean to say not in trial and error phase.

I mean to say really really in practical and available rightaway.

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How can he possibly know now? The whole point of trialling a new technique is to see if it is viable. There will be no definite answers until this phase has run its course.

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Dear Dr Mwamba,

 

The only benefits I can think of at the moment from using a larger punch over a needle are as follows.

 

A self supporting cylindrical shaft that similer to one created with a small punch, would force the skin to bridge the gap created. In bridging the gap the body is creating tissue to fill the hole. This creation of new tissue contains all the nessecary cells and growth factors in their correct states to form new follicules, what we need to do is push them in the right direction. This is hopefully where Nigams new solution comes in.

 

I spoke to a chap who sold an Acell competitor ECM. He stated that ECM has never once created new hair follicules in the skin when. It helps with healing but it does not generate new follicules.

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For ECM , we didn't observe neogenesis as they told you .In theory , we would expect that .

Now your point about creating a hole is totally right ;that's why I will suggest a punch of 0.5mm to begin with .And it will be worthy to try it .

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Hello everybody ,

I do apologize for the time I took to respond to your inquiries .

I was very busy after my trip in India where I had to perform surgery , study Dr Nigam's technique , jet lag ...And back in Belgium I had to start right away my session of surgery .

 

I have been following and reading progress on hair regeneration technology , Dr Gho"s techniques , Intercytex and Aderans works, Dr Hitzig's work , Dr Cooley's work , Dr Nigam's work and my own experience with Acell application .

With my technique , I was not able to erase completely white dots in my donor , donor regeneration was about 10 to 30% .One thing I witnessed was the absence of scar formation , the improvement in hair caliber and pigmentation .

I kept reading and investigating physicians who were claiming to get above 60 % of success .

One of Dr's NIgam rep contacted me and proposed me to meet Dr Nigam who were willing to share openly his technique with me .I therefore accepted his invitation and requested him to perform his technique on my own patient so I can follow up myself the results .And he agreed .So I took my plane ticket and made one step forward .

 

The plan was : I will perform surgery on their patient with my FIT technique and they will apply their products to regenerate the donor ; and they will perform their technique on my own patient .I will follow up both patients in my clinic in Brussels as both of them live in Europe .

 

I was well surprised by his passion and the clarity of his explanation about his techniques and the science behind .I also witnessed result on a live patient and on the patient I was supposed to perform surgery on . I just found out the hair growth he had was from a previous surgery with the hair doubling technique from Nigam .

I had proof that I couldn't deny ;but let's agree that you can not generalize it to everybody .

That's why I decided to give it a try .He taught me how to perform his technique so I can start to offer it in my clinic in Brussels .It will help me to prove it right or wrong to myself.

I shared with him my concerns about mastering the basics of modern hair transplant surgery in order to produce results that should be undetectable , natural and well done .It is only through a quality work that we can make others doctors embrace Dr Nigam's techniques and findings .

One of the rule of scientific proof of valid techniques is reproducibility of the same results in another environment if you apply the same protocol. I therefore choose to apply Dr Nigam's technique in another environment ( my clinic ) to prove the validity of his concept .

And he totally agreed on that .

We just need to finalize our partnership details to make it happen .In the meantime , I am following up the two patients who travelled with me in India ( Dr Nigam's patient and my patient ) and I will go back to India for more training about his technique and I will bring my expertise to train his staff on art and aesthetics of hair transplant surgery .

Let's hope , Dr Nigam's technique will bring us to a new way of helping the entire community and I will keep you update .

 

 

Dr. Mwamba, after few bad experiences in life, I have made it a habit not to trust people on the basis of what they say and how flowery the things they may present. Put your hope in Dr. Nigam but do not trust him blindly. IMO, he has not even posted satisfactorily even single result of convincingly successful FUE. I do not intend to defame Dr. Nigam. Is he a weight loss specialist or hair multiplication specialist? His tall claims seem to be dubious. May be he is coming up with something revolutionary and I really hope that he comes up with that so that I do not have grapple with my hair loss and start a bad day daily after looking at my hair loss. But that does not change truth. IMO, no doctor in India has been dismissed due to medical negligence (I am not sure though). So, it is easy to question the ethics of few Indian Doctors if not all. I am an Indian and I know how things work here.

 

See the following links about Nigam:

 

Dr Nigam - False Claims about stem cell

 

 

Please be very cautious of Dr. Nigam. I do not personally know him but at the same time, I do not smell things very good.

 

If Dr. Nigam reads this post, I will say that I am only a critic who is not sufficiently impressed with the research I have done on him. Please no offense.

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Dr. Mwamba, after few bad experiences in life, I have made it a habit not to trust people on the basis of what they say and how flowery the things they may present. Put your hope in Dr. Nigam but do not trust him blindly. IMO, he has not even posted satisfactorily even single result of convincingly successful FUE. I do not intend to defame Dr. Nigam. Is he a weight loss specialist or hair multiplication specialist? His tall claims seem to be dubious. May be he is coming up with something revolutionary and I really hope that he comes up with that so that I do not have grapple with my hair loss and start a bad day daily after looking at my hair loss. But that does not change truth. IMO, no doctor in India has been dismissed due to medical negligence (I am not sure though). So, it is easy to question the ethics of few Indian Doctors if not all. I am an Indian and I know how things work here.

 

See the following links about Nigam:

 

Reviews of Dr. Nigam Hair Transplant Clinic, Andheri East, Mumbai | Dr. Nigam Hair Transplant Clinic, Hair Clinic reviews in Mumbai - asklaila

 

Dr Nigam - False Claims about stem cell

 

 

Please be very cautious of Dr. Nigam. I do not personally know him but at the same time, I do not smell things very good.

 

If Dr. Nigam reads this post, I will say that I am only a critic who is not sufficiently impressed with the research I have done on him. Please no offense.

 

i totally understand your doubts, and i will too remain doubtful until there is good proof. But Dr Nigam does seem very upfront and open for scrutiny, so he can only lose out if he is not genuine in his claims.

 

You just need to patient. Treating hair loss is all about patience :)

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i totally understand your doubts, and i will too remain doubtful until there is good proof. But Dr Nigam does seem very upfront and open for scrutiny, so he can only lose out if he is not genuine in his claims.

 

You just need to patient. Treating hair loss is all about patience :)

 

:) God by default graces hair loss sufferers with the quality of PATIENCE. Having said so, so is true about any ailment! hmmm....happy waiting till then....

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Everybody should be very careful about any claims made out there .

In the meantime , scientific curiosity pushes us to verify any claims and not rejected it based on feelings .

Let's put in place a study to proof the concept and let's all be patient as we are moving forward .If it is true , only time will tell us ...

I will put my expertise , my effort , my love for patients ,my love for innovations and progress and my hard work to help find a solution .

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Everybody should be very careful about any claims made out there .

In the meantime , scientific curiosity pushes us to verify any claims and not rejected it based on feelings .

Let's put in place a study to proof the concept and let's all be patient as we are moving forward .If it is true , only time will tell us ...

I will put my expertise , my effort , my love for patients ,my love for innovations and progress and my hard work to help find a solution .

 

Hopes on you Doc. Take the best of Dr. Nigam's world and please be very cautious so that your research is not wasted. You probably have less to lose, but we do have lot.

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lucidh,

With due respect to you,

Any comment on anybody or any technique should be made only after giving a chance at least ,to clarify and be heard ,

specially when I am totally open and transparent.

 

,

I have only 3 actual patients namely Mr.Nikhil from Chandigarh, Mr.Viren from Mumbai and Mr.Naveen from Calcutta in the whole of google in my entire practice who have adversely written against my clinic,

and kindly note that these patients had not met me directly neither had been treated by myself directly,

and as soon as I came to know about these three,

I contacted them and have promised them 15000$ free treatment each.

This complementary treatment started 4 months back for Mr.Viren, 2 months back for Mr. Nikhil and 1 month back for Mr.Navin.

All three are satisfied now and have written the positive reviews after meeting me personally in their respective links.

In fact, Mr.Viren have responded well to doubling and hair multiplication treatment both,

and I will request all three of them to post on this thread itself regarding their experience after meeting me in person directly.

 

I will post Mr.Viren's photo next week on this thread and will keep you updated with Nikhil and Naveen's progress as their treatment progresses.

Nikhil and navin were only few months post treatment, and they did not wait for the growth to happen , before they wrote their comments.

 

Except these 3 patients in the hair category, the rest of the comments made by any poster ever, have never mentioned that they have been my patient, most of them are my competitors writing against my clinic or few might have just enquired on phone or must be opinion makers like you who may read some adverse comments without verifying and make a biased, prejudiced opinion. Of Course, in a democratic platform, everybody has a right to make their opinion.

By the way,what you claimed as your research, has been posted by every new member, everytime he comes to these threads...

 

I am doing highest number of hair transplants in India, per month, per clinic.

 

It is but natural, I will have jealous competitors, specially as I bring the new game changing technique "hair doubling."

 

The no.1 FUT hair transplant surgeon of Mumbai just 2 years back, is on the verge of closing down his clinic as on today.

 

The link you provided is nothing... you will see in the coming months and years, more such attacks with ulterior motive to malign and defame my clinic by competitors...

as my work become threat to them for there professional survival,it is part of the game,when you come up with something new...

 

Regards, stem cell hair multiplication, I have never claimed that it is 100% successful as on today,

but yes, what can I do if it gives excellent results to some patients and no results to others.

I have posted the photographs of the same and I am transparent and open by allowing access to these patients for anyone with their names , telephone nos. and email ids or even through skype.

Those patients who decide to undergo hair multiplication treatment with me, sign a legal document with my clinic which clearly mentions that the clinic and the patient agrees that hair multiplication is an evolving science.

Some patients may get desired results, some may not.

In case, the patients does not get the desired results, he will be provided free hair doubling or free FUE against the amount paid by him,

If my patients after understanding all the pros and cons of the evolving hair multiplication technique, decide to undergo the same willingly, with their consent, then why should you have a problem without even getting your so called doubts clarified.

Regards , hair doubling,i am 100% sure of results(but not expecting you to believe ,yet), i know, what i am doing...

 

Yes, you may take time , may be months, or may be years

(the way people did not believe fue when it was introduced 10 years back)

to believe, but that is democratically speaking , your problem.

 

You said you are an INDIAN, it was more easy for you to have first communicated with me,

and if not convinced, you had a full scientific right to criticize..

 

Without even knowing me or even talking to me..you seem to have a done a very unbiased scientific research on the techniques....

I do not make opinions by smelling, but by continous thorough scrutiny...

 

Do You think any doctor or even a patient will believe anyone blindly...

I never focus attention on my own self or my name..

I always give credit to others , with the support of whose research ,i am able to apply certain facts in my clinic.

I have always been saying, as a scientists and scientific minded people, we should not focus on one name ..but the potential of the probable curative techniques..

If we do not discuss, experiment, share,suggest...explore...how can we reach anywhere close to finding better solution for MPB treatments.

 

Am i doing anything wrong, by trying my best to talk ,discuss,share new approaches of treatments with people like Jahoda, gerd,michael,rose,fuchs,christiano, stenn,washniek,rajesh,tyoshima etc..

including some well educated and intelligent forum members/moderators across various forums....

Trying my best ,to get the experts... to work together as a team...

 

Do not worry, you will have independent scientific studies begining shortly and posted on the forums...

I hope you are aware, i am starting case studies with few nw7 ...conversion to nw2 with hair doubling.

 

Mr joshi is the first patient whose cells were taken for culture on 5th october 2013..

hopefully as i am back from ishsrs tonight to mumbai..will start his doubling this week.

I wanted to share my ishrs visit with you all,but reading your comment , i lost the enthusiasm to post the same...

 

Tom and boldy(my patients from forum) were also there with at the ishrs at san fransisco, ask more info from them...

 

I did discuss few important findings and each others work, with Jahoda at ishrs.

 

Dr. Mwamba, after few bad experiences in life, I have made it a habit not to trust people on the basis of what they say and how flowery the things they may present. Put your hope in Dr. Nigam but do not trust him blindly. IMO, he has not even posted satisfactorily even single result of convincingly successful FUE. I do not intend to defame Dr. Nigam. Is he a weight loss specialist or hair multiplication specialist? His tall claims seem to be dubious. May be he is coming up with something revolutionary and I really hope that he comes up with that so that I do not have grapple with my hair loss and start a bad day daily after looking at my hair loss. But that does not change truth. IMO, no doctor in India has been dismissed due to medical negligence (I am not sure though). So, it is easy to question the ethics of few Indian Doctors if not all. I am an Indian and I know how things work here.

 

See the following links about Nigam:

 

Dr Nigam - False Claims about stem cell

 

 

Please be very cautious of Dr. Nigam. I do not personally know him but at the same time, I do not smell things very good.

 

If Dr. Nigam reads this post, I will say that I am only a critic who is not sufficiently impressed with the research I have done on him. Please no offense.

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Dr Nigam,

 

While we greatly enjoy your updates on the multiplication and doubling techniques, please remember that sharing hair transplant results on the forums is reserved for recommended physicians. Also, asking patients to share positive experiences on the forums isn't generally recommended either.

 

However, I do greatly appreciate your work and collaboration with Dr. Mwamba, and look forward to future updates!

"Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc"

 

Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum

 

All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician.

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lucidh,

With due respect to you,

Any comment on anybody or any technique should be made only after giving a chance at least ,to clarify and be heard ,

specially when I am totally open and transparent.

 

,

I have only 3 actual patients namely Mr.Nikhil from Chandigarh, Mr.Viren from Mumbai and Mr.Naveen from Calcutta in the whole of google in my entire practice who have adversely written against my clinic,

and kindly note that these patients had not met me directly neither had been treated by myself directly,

and as soon as I came to know about these three,

I contacted them and have promised them 15000$ free treatment each.

This complementary treatment started 4 months back for Mr.Viren, 2 months back for Mr. Nikhil and 1 month back for Mr.Navin.

All three are satisfied now and have written the positive reviews after meeting me personally in their respective links.

In fact, Mr.Viren have responded well to doubling and hair multiplication treatment both,

and I will request all three of them to post on this thread itself regarding their experience after meeting me in person directly.

 

I will post Mr.Viren's photo next week on this thread and will keep you updated with Nikhil and Naveen's progress as their treatment progresses.

Nikhil and navin were only few months post treatment, and they did not wait for the growth to happen , before they wrote their comments.

 

Except these 3 patients in the hair category, the rest of the comments made by any poster ever, have never mentioned that they have been my patient, most of them are my competitors writing against my clinic or few might have just enquired on phone or must be opinion makers like you who may read some adverse comments without verifying and make a biased, prejudiced opinion. Of Course, in a democratic platform, everybody has a right to make their opinion.

By the way,what you claimed as your research, has been posted by every new member, everytime he comes to these threads...

 

I am doing highest number of hair transplants in India, per month, per clinic.

 

It is but natural, I will have jealous competitors, specially as I bring the new game changing technique "hair doubling."

 

The no.1 FUT hair transplant surgeon of Mumbai just 2 years back, is on the verge of closing down his clinic as on today.

 

The link you provided is nothing... you will see in the coming months and years, more such attacks with ulterior motive to malign and defame my clinic by competitors...

as my work become threat to them for there professional survival,it is part of the game,when you come up with something new...

 

Regards, stem cell hair multiplication, I have never claimed that it is 100% successful as on today,

but yes, what can I do if it gives excellent results to some patients and no results to others.

I have posted the photographs of the same and I am transparent and open by allowing access to these patients for anyone with their names , telephone nos. and email ids or even through skype.

Those patients who decide to undergo hair multiplication treatment with me, sign a legal document with my clinic which clearly mentions that the clinic and the patient agrees that hair multiplication is an evolving science.

Some patients may get desired results, some may not.

In case, the patients does not get the desired results, he will be provided free hair doubling or free FUE against the amount paid by him,

If my patients after understanding all the pros and cons of the evolving hair multiplication technique, decide to undergo the same willingly, with their consent, then why should you have a problem without even getting your so called doubts clarified.

Regards , hair doubling,i am 100% sure of results(but not expecting you to believe ,yet), i know, what i am doing...

 

Yes, you may take time , may be months, or may be years

(the way people did not believe fue when it was introduced 10 years back)

to believe, but that is democratically speaking , your problem.

 

You said you are an INDIAN, it was more easy for you to have first communicated with me,

and if not convinced, you had a full scientific right to criticize..

 

Without even knowing me or even talking to me..you seem to have a done a very unbiased scientific research on the techniques....

I do not make opinions by smelling, but by continous thorough scrutiny...

 

Do You think any doctor or even a patient will believe anyone blindly...

I never focus attention on my own self or my name..

I always give credit to others , with the support of whose research ,i am able to apply certain facts in my clinic.

I have always been saying, as a scientists and scientific minded people, we should not focus on one name ..but the potential of the probable curative techniques..

If we do not discuss, experiment, share,suggest...explore...how can we reach anywhere close to finding better solution for MPB treatments.

 

Am i doing anything wrong, by trying my best to talk ,discuss,share new approaches of treatments with people like Jahoda, gerd,michael,rose,fuchs,christiano, stenn,washniek,rajesh,tyoshima etc..

including some well educated and intelligent forum members/moderators across various forums....

Trying my best ,to get the experts... to work together as a team...

 

Do not worry, you will have independent scientific studies begining shortly and posted on the forums...

I hope you are aware, i am starting case studies with few nw7 ...conversion to nw2 with hair doubling.

 

Mr joshi is the first patient whose cells were taken for culture on 5th october 2013..

hopefully as i am back from ishsrs tonight to mumbai..will start his doubling this week.

I wanted to share my ishrs visit with you all,but reading your comment , i lost the enthusiasm to post the same...

 

Tom and boldy(my patients from forum) were also there with at the ishrs at san fransisco, ask more info from them...

 

I did discuss few important findings and each others work, with Jahoda at ishrs.

 

Hey Doc, your anguish seems to suggest that I tried to defame the case. So is not the case. I was only bit suspicious. Since now you are open for scrutiny and reading the explanation you provided about your bad cases, few of my qualms are clear. I do not intend to discourage you, it's highly appreciated that you are sharing your research with others and also credit people with what they have contributed in your research. I will be closely watching your work on this forum. I will still apologize if you took it otherwise.

 

You have mentioned that you do many more FUEs and hair doubling cases. Will it be possible for you to share the 5-6 results in the form of high definition photos/videos as Hasson and Wong do?

 

And please share your experience at ISHRS. I hope that my comments(s) solely should not distract you from carrying on good work.

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Dr Nigam,

 

While we greatly enjoy your updates on the multiplication and doubling techniques, please remember that sharing hair transplant results on the forums is reserved for recommended physicians. Also, asking patients to share positive experiences on the forums isn't generally recommended either.

 

However, I do greatly appreciate your work and collaboration with Dr. Mwamba, and look forward to future updates!

 

If sharing results on this forum is reserved for recommended physicians, then many people who just stop by may not learn the FUE/Hair doubling work of Dr. Nigam. Please scrutinize his mundane FUE and Hair Doubling work and post on this forum - his website does not seem to have any result.

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Lucldh,

 

We've actually allowed Dr. Nigam to share case presentations and examples of his doubling work. Because it is only in the testing/preliminary phases, the presentations have mainly focused on regrowth in the donor region. Frankly, as long as it is appropriate and for educational purposes, we will allow this type of activity. However, sharing hair transplant results is something that is reserved for recommended physicians.

 

Hope this clarifies!

"Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc"

 

Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum

 

All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician.

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Lucldh,

 

We've actually allowed Dr. Nigam to share case presentations and examples of his doubling work. Because it is only in the testing/preliminary phases, the presentations have mainly focused on regrowth in the donor region. Frankly, as long as it is appropriate and for educational purposes, we will allow this type of activity. However, sharing hair transplant results is something that is reserved for recommended physicians.

 

Hope this clarifies!

 

Please encourage him to share whatever he has. As of now, I am not sure whether he is a scientist who has been working on hair multiplication and who does not himself do hair transplant but his colleagues or staff do HT, or he is a hair transplant surgeon who is also working on hair multiplication. Whatever be the case, please allow/encourage him.

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It could be .He has his own records and for sure he should have many pictures to show .As a scientist , I can not rely solely on pictures .That's the purpose for us to conduct a series of trial in the two sites ( Brussels and Mumbai) with the same protocol .If the results are reproducible , it will be a proof of the concept by itself .

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